this is my second vintage bvg purchase and i have to say i like what i see!! a blazer of a card in person that bvg was right on with. i do think i picked this up for less than any sgc or psa 7, that said bvg just might have to be put on my radar for future buys...i do not see many t,e etc graded by them, but to be honest i am not looking either, maybe somebody else can comment about bvg with grading these issues, but i boght a 33 delong and now this and am very happy..does anybody else consider them when buying??

My experience with Beckett is that they are fair to tough on the vintage issues and I would certainly not expect to see many "overgraded" cards in the marketplace in Beckett holders, that's for sure.

Many of the graders and support personnel at BGS have now been there for 10 years.

Regards
Rich

marty...great card...I've always wanted one of those!!!

Just be prepared to visit the emergency room to get your hands stitched up if you try bustin' a card out of a Beckett holder!

Marty,
That card is Smokin'. I'm a bit curious to where it was housed before. Would you mind tellin us what company slabbed it last? Or even if it was raw?

Why did you choose Beckett? I'm very interested in your chose of Company!

"Just interested & curious!"

Life's Grand,
Denny Walsh

I've handled enough T205 slabs to say (I believe) that BVG's grading is right on par with SGC's. I have successfully crossed every BVG slab I've purchased into an SGC holder of the same grade.

I have no qualms with buying BVG cards and I suggest my fellows collectors take a closer look at them.

Disclaimer: I'm not getting paid to shill for BVG either.

There is without question this perception that BVG is a "lesser" of the third party graders. However, i feel there are many good deals to be had because generally BVG will sell 10-25% less than PSA or SGC. This is a rule of thumb, not without exceptions. Personally, i picked up a BVG t206 Cy Young that was certainly less than the same card in a PSA holder. I was happy.

JB

The only BVG card I ever bought ended up being sheet cut. I have thought about picking up nicely centered copies and trying again

I bought a BVG 3 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle and I was pleased with the condition of the card.

That's my one gripe with Beckett is that they graded a pile of sheet cut cards. (This is really obvious with 70's and 80's hockey cards)

That said, when it comes to tobacco cards. I'm not really worried about getting a sheet cut card. Nor are the grades of tobacco cards is that a concern.

I think BVG has improved in the last year or so, but about 2 years ago I bought a BVG 7 Clemente rookie and it wouldn't cross over to SGC or PSA due to trimming.

-Alan

I started a 61 fleer basketball graded set and was subbing with bvg until i just couldnt stand it anymore. they seemed to vastly overgrade the vintage cards. i then started to sub to sgc and the grading seemed perfect, maybe even a half point below what i expected. i attempted to cross my bvg to sgc, approx 20 cards....only one crossed to the same grade level. from what i've heard and looked into there appears to be one great BVG grader, Andy Broome, and the rest of the staff doesnt impress me at all. i'll stick with sgc for my vintage.

"I started a 61 fleer basketball graded set and was subbing with bvg until i just couldnt stand it anymore. they seemed to vastly overgrade the vintage cards. i then started to sub to sgc and the grading seemed perfect, maybe even a half point below what i expected. i attempted to cross my bvg to sgc, approx 20 cards....only one crossed to the same grade level. from what i've heard and looked into there appears to be one great BVG grader, Andy Broome, and the rest of the staff doesnt impress me at all. i'll stick with sgc for my vintage"


Really? Huh, In this thread you said

"I'm pretty sure I'll be finishing the set with SGC and not BVG. BVG has been, in my opinion, way too harsh on my vintage submissions & the SGC grading is more sound."

http://www.sgccard.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1981077&page=17&fpart=1

So what is it? BVG is too harsh? or to weak?


Personally myself, I've been quite happy with the BVG purchases I've made and use them quite often. The grades have been on par and the holders are the best for protection and security bar none IMO of course. sometimes it's not always about what holder will get the most money (for me anyways) so it's nice knowing my cards are well protected.