Re: Re: some 'stap longlong' viewsMarch 12 2004 at 12:55 PM
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|Mangi Nating |
Response to Re: some 'stap longlong' views
Greetings Inmate, Meri Nating & Exile as well as anyone else out there.
Inmate, I'm with you in the equality in marriage bit. I don't think it's right for a man to lord it over his wife, but I still believe that the man should have the final say in major decisions in the household, but lest this turn into a discussion about marriage by those who have experienced it vicariously, I want to just say that I think the attitudes of the young men, and even little boys should be more respectful toward the women and girls in society. The girls and women in turn should carry themselves with dignity. I think that goes without saying.
Concerning the 'economic prostitutes' I cannot hold them up to be 'models of virtue' and I find it difficult to believe that what they do is a sacrifice. I will however agree to disagree with you on this issue. As to prostitution proper, although it appears because of the demand for it, the supply is also a factor. If there were no prostitutes available, there would be no prostitution. It's a case of the chicken and egg I think.
As to bride price, I think it has mutated into something completely foreign. I am no expert on the bride price, but in times past, wasn't it a form of payment by the family of the groom to the parents of the bride, in order to compensate them for the loss of a working member of their family. The exchange was symbolic, and whatever was given was so that the parents of the bride would not lose out on the exchange, it was never intended to bankrupt the Groom's family (or the Groom for that matter).
Sis, what I meant when I said they provide a positive environment in the home, was that they have the moral values in place that make it possible for the child to grow up and become a contributing member of society. This is, as you rightly pointed out, not the "preserve of the educated elite". The only requirement here is moral values.
The feminist issue is probably too wide, and I don't know enough about it to comment. Concerning Prostitution, like I said to Inmate just above, I think supply is also a factor here, and this ties in with creating a positive environment in the home where the children, and the girls in this case, respect themselves enough not to turn to prostitution, whether it be the normal street or 'economic' prostitution.
With Bride price, there would be on the part of he who has 100 girl-childs a tendency to see merit in the idea, conversely he with the 100 young lads would see it as detrimental to society. It really depends on which side of the fence you sit. Personally, and from an unbiased perspective, I can see no merit in continuing this tradition in its present form. Something symbolic, a gesture of exchange involving non monetary items produced from the land would be more in keeping with tradition. Some Kaukau, banana na Kakaruk instead of Toyota Landcruisers, DVD players and life savings.
Exile, True, but then again she is just a figurehead, real power resides with the males around her.