UK’s Fastest Bravo?

Another year and yet another re-build. Today I present to Fiat Boo one of or the fastest Bravo in the UK. Let me get straight to the point. It made 347BHP 317WBHP and 339FT/LB @ 1.8Bar. I have maxxed out the fuel injectors as the engine runs lean at 6000rpm so the redline is now set at 6000rpm. I need to get some 430cc injectors and I should see 360BHP and be able to rev to my usual 7500rpm. Next all this power is without running the water injection system as there is no point yet as the injectors are maxxed out so with this switched on I may be about to break the 400 barrier. I intend to sort this out within the next month or so so keep your eyes peeled.

I planned in running at TOTB7 but will not be able to this year so maybe next time.

The full spec can be found here: http://www.online-presence.co.uk/_coupe/details.php?record=148

The dyno map is here:



My website is here:
http://jayman.bulldoghome.com

Some recent pics are here:















Thanks for looking

are u sure it is the fastest?

in that case...bloody well done would love to see her in action


Its a 1.4 Chassis, 1.6 Engine and 2.0ltr Brakes and half a Marea

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Well done you J !!!

Would love to see that baby in action now

Rob

Mk.2 Marea Weekend 1.8 16v 115 ELX - Bigger IS better !

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Very impressive. Nice looking motor too!


Bravo: Nov 01 80SX / 66,000 miles
Coupe: Feb 97 20V N/A / 132,500 miles

Fan-bloody-tastic

Fantastic work I must say.

And (not but) to have that sort of WHP on a FWD car must be extremely savage and taxing to control?!

Come on Jay, where's your 4x4 system? You know it can be done if you put your mind to it

Regardless, absolutely fantastic work, I think we're all impressed. Keep it up.

Awsome!! and clearly a pro at work.

I tip my hat at you sir

Scotty

Thanks guys, but without boo this car wouldn’t not exist. As at the time it was down to the constant mocking from certain people saying that a 20VT couldn’t be done etc as to why I built it in the first place (Some of you older members may remember). When somebody tells me I can’t do something I love to prove them wrong. I was one of or the first in the UK to successfully do the conversion and 4 years later its still here. Now 20VTs are popping up all the time. This car represents that Bravos can be made extremely quick and proves that Fiat should have made this car with the 20VT in the first place.

So far every year I have rebuilt the engine with yet more and more power. First year was the standard 220BHP then 260BHP then 307BHP and now 347BHP (360BHP) when the fuel is fixed.

Traction is not as bad as you guys would think I have many suspension mods with LSD just waiting for the race logic traction control. It does break traction in fourth but that is most of the fun I love a good fight with the steering wheel.

2.5L with 4WD 500BHP+ maybe on the cards a few years from now but no real plans yet just have to wait and see

I would love to show you guys the car in person so if there are any meets around the London area just let me know.

So how fast is it??

Well J I take my hat off to you once again!

That is just amazing... and best of all, you haven't spoilt any of the looks!


Yes J how fast is it... cos I run out of numbers on my closk after 4th gear!! lol


I think also your MAD!!! I really don't like driving my turbo without the Traction turned on to atleast 10% and I only have 240bhp!!!


Crazy Crazy Lad.... your my hero



Take care, hope to see you at some meets... how about Gaydon round the test track???





Come Join the 5 pot club! Almost standard Mk1 HGT 73k - 16mpg!!

YOU CANNOT MAKE THAT CAR 4WD

There you go, I've said you can't do it, so now you can :-P

That's an awesome piece of kit, and very sleeper at the same time.

How many Porsches etc have you embarrased in it then?

Man, if that thing was 4WD can you imagine what it could do?
It looks awesome based on the current spec and figures, plus i've had a good look at all your WIP pics etc. Excellent stuff...

Buzz
The champion of the Bravo 1.4
& now ex owner of a Bravo 1.8

Lol @ Lee I was waiting for someone to say that.

Once I sort out the fuelling and water injection I will put some times down at the pod. I don’t wanna melt all of my hard work now. I should hit a low 12 with the right conditions and tyres.

Anything nearer than Gaydon?

you need a nice holiday to italy, buy a dedra integrale and drive home with it to make yours 4wd!

i have onyl ever seen one 4x4 bravo on spanish ebay or italian i cant remember! but it was definately dedra integrale runnign gear

Yes but that one is a 16VT not a 20VT. If i was gonna make the car 4WD I would buy a custom gearbox etc...

Jay, yet another fantastic rebuild mate, top job!

Andy_sx

nope, once i saw on ebay was def 20vt, dedra integrale gearbox and running gear

i dont have the advert or anything, but i have a quote of "It says il motore e quello della fiat cupe 2000 turbo 5 cilindri 20v"

from an email when i was chatting about it with someone in feb 2005

'Fiats are faster than you fink' - nice line, that - shame your next 'victim' would'nt be able to read it, lol

I don't know of anyone who's said that Fiat makes slow cars, (least not in the UK, where Fiat rarely used to import the smallest-engined versions of their cars)

Very nice build by the way. Glad to see you wer'nt tempted to bodykit it to death

Nice work J

better keep at it else you might find a certain Marea passing you

As soon as the engine is 100% finished. The bodywork is next on the hit list.

I will keep it 100% standard no kits no addons etc.. It is going to be fully re-sprayed in the same colour but with a tiny hint of pearl. All the dents, starches, stone chips will be gone. The underseals are being redone and I need a new bonnet. The car will look mint when completed. The company is here:

http://www.calibrecoachworks.com

Just a quick Update (Well been a year):

Ok very very hot day 31 degrees ambient and still managed to get some decent results

376 BHP with 350 FT/LB @ 1.56Bar (dont know why 1.7Bar was written on the graph)

313.6 BHP with 290 ft/lb @ Wheels

Graphs Power/Torque Flywheel:


Power/Torque Wheels:


Boost vs AFR:


This dyno is very conservative but I will take it up to PT just to see any difference within dynos since my last four dynos have been there. Anyhow I am very happy with the results and it really does pull on the road. I was getting air temps at 72degrees all day and it werent knocking. Theoretically every 5degees will give 1% power so on a colder day where intakes are a more sensible 35degress I should see over 400BHP not to mention how hot the fuel was. It was so hot the exhaust melted the handbrake cable shut. It will need a little tweeking in the colder months as I should be able to run more boost like 1.8Bar and a bit more advance. Im not quite 400BHP on paper but Im sure I can break this barrier soon not bad for a GT2871R @ 0.64 ey

Dyno Vids:
http://img190.imageshack.us/i/bravo.mp4/
http://img190.imageshack.us/i/bravo2.mp4/

Some flameage
http://img190.imageshack.us/i/bravo3.mp4/

My new task is to get a 12.5 1/4 time. Last practice saw me a 13.4 which is far to slow for my spec. I need to make some tweeks but I will get there.

Hi J

Thats one amazing Bravo everything is done to such a high standard. I found your webpage through google some time ago and ive looked very closely at every image.

The pictures realy helped me figure out some things when I was rebuilding my little 1.4 engine.

Is your car reliable?

Very reliable. Even for a Fiat. Any more power would just be a waste as it wont lay it down plus Im on the border line of breaking gearboxes. The standalone ECU is mapped really well and I have been tweaking the map as I drive to make it smoother and smoother. I can start my car from cold wait 3mins to get out of cold start open loop then drive like normal all day without a harsh ride.

alright pal,thats a crackin bravo with awesome power you got!
i been reading the full lowdown on it on your site with all the pics of the rebuild..

Good going

Mike


A Fiat Marea in a Bravo Shell
My Vid:
http://s329.photobucket.com/player.swf?
filehttp://vid329.photobucket.com/albums/l362/mikedenney/MyVid_0001.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1
Car Status - Off Rd - Nearly Stripped

I saw this bravo back in 2005 and ive kept a keen eye on it ever since.

Ive also been on the coupe forum for the last few years too, so read alot of your cough discussions cough too.

Fantastic work jay, i think you actually setting a high standard for the 20vt conversion (cause there are some rather bad and partial projects popping up on ebay from time to time).

I hope to see a 4x4 conversion from you, cause there have been a couple of very interesting coupe 4x4's appearing lately , and being able to get all that power down would be simply awesome :D

Keep up the good work mate

Rich

bet that bm had a shock lol..
I know what he was thinkin...'a bravo..ill kill it'....bet he was gutted lol

Mike


A Fiat Marea in a Bravo Shell
My Vid:
http://s329.photobucket.com/player.swf?
filehttp://vid329.photobucket.com/albums/l362/mikedenney/MyVid_0001.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1
Car Status - Off Rd - Nearly Stripped

Probably a 325i lol.

Fail @ E36. Awesome Bravo though.

Bravo looks fast, is there a dent in your rear passenger quater J? That blue is a nice colour.

Yes that dent has been there for years. When I got back from holiday someone did a hit and run. With the engine and interior now finished I can concentrate on the bodywork.

Superb! i just watched u blow that bmw away on youtube it was excellent...well done


"Got money?" "Get inked!"

my 1.6 kills BMW's all the time...nothing new there


She's a monster soon to be revealed

If they didnt want it stripping they shouldnt have used nuts and bolts

Just a quick update. For those interested in my build I cannot update my website so I have a project thread in the coupe forum which will be kept upto date.

http://www.fccuk.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=872724#Post872724