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Is it men or women?

September 11 2005 at 6:03 PM
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Here's an opinion piece that looks at how women view other women's breasts:

http://www.amazoncastle.com/feminism/busty.shtml

Do you think she's right, and women are more to blame for the concept of the "ideal breasts"?

And is it more themselves, or other women? Here's a view that thinks it's more about women wanting to look good for other women:

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/female_body_image/85911

Interesting thought in that one - that teenage girls are not just comparing themselves to other women, but to the boy-band crushes they first fall for. The hot high-school boys are always skinnier than girls, and they're what the girls think of as really attractive. Do teenage girls who want to be attractive also want to resemble boys at the same time (albeit with breasts and much better hair to show off)?

And if so, does this desire form the basis for the rest of their lives, despite the fact that women find appearance less important in men (body appearance, that is - clothing and style still rate high, or even higher) as they grow older?

In a world without men (ignoring all sex issues for the moment), would all women be "fat and happy" has has been suggested? Would this be because there would be no thin men as objects of desire? Or would women still want to show off for each other, and still compete to be less flabby and more beautiful than the others?

 
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  1. Re: Is it men or women? - JB on Sep 11
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  3. Re: Is it men or women? - Nat on Sep 11
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  5. I agree - Melissa on Sep 11
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  7. I don't agree - michaela on Sep 12
    1. Re: I don't agree - Boreas on Sep 12
      1. Clothes competition - Nat on Sep 12
        1. class - michaela on Sep 12
          1. disagree - tam on Sep 12
            1. Re: disagree - Boreas on Sep 12
              1. Re: disagree - tam on Sep 12
                1. Different - Adelle on Sep 12
                  1. Radical - Boreas on Sep 13
                2. Re: disagree - JB on Sep 12
                  1. marketing - elijah on Sep 14
                    1. Re: marketing - JB on Sep 14
                      1. Re: marketing - peter on Sep 14
            2. Re: disagree - michaela on Sep 13
              1. Re: disagree - JB on Sep 13
                1. money and color - michaela on Sep 13
                  1. Re: money and color - elijah on Sep 14
                    1. Why They Stay - michaela on Sep 14
                      1. Re: Why They Stay - tam on Sep 17
        2. Uniforms DO solve the 'better than yours' boast - frank on Sep 23
      2. Re: I don't agree - michaela on Sep 12
        1. Simple people - Nat on Sep 12
          1. peer pressure - Boreas on Sep 12
            1. Re: peer pressure - Nat on Sep 12
              1. Majority - Boreas on Sep 12
          2. Re: Simple people - JB on Sep 12
            1. Status symbols - Nat on Sep 12
    2. A resturant - Melissa on Sep 12
      1. Right On - Kay on Sep 15
    3. Actually - Melissa on Sep 12
      1. Re: Actually - JB on Sep 12
        1. souvenirs - Nat on Sep 12
          1. All in fun - Melissa on Sep 12
            1. Re: All in fun - JB on Sep 12
      2. Thank You - michaela on Sep 13
        1. Re: Thank You - Anonymous on Sep 13
          1. Re: Thank You - JB on Sep 13
          2. Re: Thank You - michaela on Sep 13
            1. Flashing as a mainstream thing - Melissa on Sep 14
              1. Re: Flashing as a mainstream thing - JB on Sep 14
                1. Asking For It - michaela on Sep 14
                  1. Re: Asking For It - JB on Sep 14
                    1. oh it was random - JB on Sep 14
                      1. OK - michaela on Sep 14
        2. also - michaela on Sep 13
          1. I've done that too, the first thing not the second - Melissa on Sep 14
    4. Topfree Isn't Taboo Society (TITS) - Adelle on Sep 12
      1. Flashing - Nat on Sep 12
        1. I agree with that - Melissa on Sep 12
        2. Re: Flashing - frank on Sep 21
      2. Re: Topfree Isn't Taboo Society (TITS) - JB on Sep 12
      3. Mammary Gland Maelstrom - frank on Sep 13
        1. Changes - Adelle on Sep 15
          1. Re: Changes - elijah on Sep 16
          2. One(part-time) hooker not hooked on usual habits - frank on Sep 23
          3. I just discovered that you created quite a discussion - bn on Sep 27
            1. Re: Adelle - Nat on Sep 27
            2. WOW! - Adelle on Sep 28
              1. And another thing... - Adelle on Sep 28
                1. Impressions - John Bayko on Sep 28
              2. Who owns a body... - John Bayko on Sep 28
                1. Bizarre - Boreas on Sep 28
                  1. Re: Bizarre - michaela on Sep 29
                2. Strange prosecutions - Nat on Sep 29
     
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