I was in no way inviting exclusion of his opinions. Just being direct like you said I was above, and wanting to stop pussy footing around with comments about who is responsible for what and why. John pretty much hit the nail on the head with who I think was a goodly portion to blame, if there is anyone to blame, that is. You'll note, I didn't tell Marceil to get out, go home, or just piss off. I wanted more input. Besides, if he's French he should be able to appreciate my direct, if not arrogant attitude. I am an American, afterall! Wouldn't want to disappoint him.