Professionals in private and mining sectors are searching for greener pasture overseas. Most have already left including engineers, geologists, etc. In this economic climate where we see mining/exploration boom in the country, yet we see mass exodus of professionals going abroad to earn big bucks.
My big question is, what is the government doing regarding this issue? Soon we will have very inexperienced people getting into senior positions....and we see what the consequences are. But if the government has come up with solutions to minimise 'brain drain', then what are they??
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This is a complex issue. It is not only about big bucks PNG brains are seeking. Issues like secure environment( Port Moresby & Lae have become infested with criminals, not what they used to be - rapes of vulnerable women has become a norm. Women can't walk down the shop without a pick pocketing idiot or bilum snatching drug addict.
Other reasons include work in good less corrupt political situation.
Discrimination on wages is a big issue. We are paid slaves wages in our own country. Therefore, Our skilled folk leave silently cos Govt is insensitive to the needs of PNGeans.
For example, you see the PNG national Pilots who work with smaller Airlines. They are paid peanuts compared to the expats.As a results many PNG pilots are in the Asia and Middle East Countries where they are paid their good bucks, no matter nationality,gender, race BUT BASED purely on qualification & experience. No problem, so be it. Our govt knows the situation - Pollies are busy fattening themselves!!!!!!!!!
You compare lectures at UPNG, Uni Tech, PAU and Divine Word. Are PNG nationals paid market wages compared to the expats. Definitely no in many cases. This is a modern world with information access at the finger tips.Painim wok long Internet and work globally and send money back home to relatives and wantoks.You are paid in US and Assie dollars and converts over the roof once landed in PNG kina.
Govt is benefiting too ya!!!!!!!!
You talk about the recent mass exodus of Lecturers from UNI Tech. Many are tired of the turmoil, treatment and instability of the place. Each party blaming each other in the media, at the courts, etc. I can't blame them for leaving. Fix the bloody problem, once for all and lets have the place be running to full steam so that kids can be taught.
Just the tip of the ice berg, let others talk their side of the story.
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I am one of those in that "brain-drain" exodus and I feel much better here (where I am) than back home. Our government cannot appreciate the work-force or the human resources. We still live below the poverty line even though we work like a lawyer in the prime minister's dep't or a doctor in POM general hospital!
Corruption, wantokism, bribery, theft of public funds, nepotism, etc are some unthinkable things we commit everyday in our beautiful country. When I see our country from an outsiders' perspective, it is the last place one would want to be. Our politicians are so corrupt and yet they still evade the justice system or public scrutiny. Bai yumi senis liklik tu oh will we keep letting decision makers and the clowns in government keep running PNG like a circus!?
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Bro MM, I can understand the perspective from which you are speaking. Am also interested to go work abroad but personally for myself my old man is about to join his ancestors, thus I do not want to be away for long.
For others out there including bro MM, share (if you guys don't mind) some experiences, both good and bad, apart from bucks and career development, to those of us planning to go abroad.
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Be free spirited, and also be willing to face the challenges that a new career from elsewhere might bring. We never lose anything if we try an adventure. Go to the internet and look up your job of interest. Too easy! If you have the "wit and the gut" you might be hired! Again, too easy!
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Indeed there're lots of jobs around the world today than ever before that can lead to a total depletion of the PNG workforce in the mining and oil industry...provided you have the right credentials such as the necessary skills and experience and knowing the right application procedures. I guess it's only a matter of time before the effect of 'brain drain' in png takes it's toll on the png government.
At the end of the day it's a personal choice to make; whether you stay and suffer the consequences of never-ending bad governance, and never-ending criminal activities, etc or go elsewhere and live a decent life.
As for me, I decided to go overseas moreso for the opportunity to gain some exposure to the outside world while learning new skills and building upon my experiences, with the ultimate hope of one day returning better equiped to serve my country. Unfortunately, that hope of returning has gone out the door...why? The answer is what we read about everyday in the papers....corruption, rapes, murder, bribery, and aids, just to name a few. Frankly, I am better off being away working in a foreign land. Being a pngean, the money i earn also goes a long way in imparting a positive and significant impact on the lives of my extended family back home.
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I have to agree with some of the comments on here. working overseas is important in that it helps one develop both professionally and personally. being place in a different country, different culture it makes you aware of backwardness of the PNG government and how it is ruling PNG at the present moment. I mean the news papers speak volumes as to how bad things are.
Taking bribes and covering up? How can the PM cancel and reopen, appoint and sack, try and block investigations? How can a police force claim to work with limit resources? How can the education department be so disorganised that teachers are not paid? How can mothers, wives, sisters not able to walk the street without the fear of being rape? Why is AIDS/HIV reaching all corners or PNG?
What exactly is the government doing to better PNG? All we see is the politican become "Big Money Men" with little development in the own regions. How many times must there be letters asking MP to return to their elecorate and carry out their promises.
Gee no wonder many have left to find a better life for themselves and for their family. These individuals that have left contribute to the PNG economy in a small way but helping their extended family.
When the government can PROVE that it is transparent, accountably and PUTTING THE PEOPELS interest first ONLY then will we see some of the issues resoveled.
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Most of you save man na meri outside PNG tend to forget that regardless of whatever it is PNG is still your birth place and will be your death place. You are at the moment flying around looking for food but soon you will return to your nest..
I don't know what it is like to live overseas but from what I hear and see on the news, I think PNG is still the best place in the whole world. We may not have all those state of art things or latest morden technology or clean and neat environment or law and order free but I still like it.
Life in PNG is not 100% fine, there is ups and downs, good and bad, depressing or uplifting etc.. but in PNG I don't go hungry like the Somalians, I am not lonley without Wantoks like Australians, I am not pressured to keep up with the latest like the USA, I am not prune to deceases caused by over population like the Asian Countries, I am able to worship my creator freely unlike the Russians or faced with natural disasters like the rest of the world.
The only one thing that may be a worry is the instability, corruption, greed and ill management by the Politicans of our Haus Tambaran. Otherwise, life for a normal person like me is OK, I'd say... it is manageable, affordable, termperate and relaxing.
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You can always live in North Korea if you are sick of PNG. In fact, why not push off and cease your pathetic whining. Go on! Shove off. We don't want people who cannot stand corruption and nepotism. Look mate, corruption and nepotism are good for hopeless countries like PNG so if you don't like the sick way the government is running the show then, as I wrote before, get lost! And take your pathetic good people with you. PNG only wants hopeless losers and thieves for its citizens.
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You sound to be a real traitor and a loser as well.. What gives you the right to call PNG a hopeless country. We PNGeans are very proud of our country, we value our land and our people. If you think the Government is sick, fair enough, but to brand whole of PNG as hopeless is unacceptable.
If my instincts are right, you sound to be a reject of the system. If that is the case then something is definitely wrong with you. Your citizenship application must have got rejected, right...
In case you forgot, we are a christian country and we will let our God the Almighty fight for us. It is our prayer, that one fine day all corruption, nepotism, bribery, etc... will come to an end.
An ordinary citizen like me cannot do much but that dosen't mean that I Should run away from it all. I want to do what I can do to make that change a reality. Therefore, those of you abroad, good for you..God has blessed you richly. Look in from out there and see what best you can do, if not enjoy your peaceful, funfilled, fake life and don't call PNG a HOPELESS country.
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100% agree with you bro/sit. Although I do agree with some of the comments made here, I also disgree with others, such as PNG is not a hopeless and so corrupt country, etc, etc. The rapes we hear about happening in our towns and citties, are confined to those places, back in the rural areas where the majority of peace loving PNGeans live, we don't go hungry, we don't rape our women, we don't rob with guns, we don't live lonely lives like the aussies do, but we care for our elderly people with love, and NO we don't throw our elderly people into old people's homes like the Aussies do, we share our incomes, and we are always free walking the bush tracks without fear etc, etc.
The only problem is we have a prime minister and his cohorts who are greedy, hell bent on stealing every kina hard working PNGeans have earned to developed this beautiful klantry of ours. The prime minister who who has nuthin good and valuable left to offer PNGeans, except accetance of bribes, and who will order enquiries that are likely to expose himself, and operating like he and his family owns PNG. These are the problems, our current PM and his govt. But you know what? Our rural populace do not really give a damn what happens at waigani, in fact nuthin much ever gets filtered down to them. Mipla ol lian long ples mipla, save wok hard long ol kofi, kakao, kopra, fishing na mekim mani long salim ol pikinini igo skul na baim liklik rice na tin fish, yet gavt ino luksave, we are not poor, we are rich but we lack the tools and expertise to expand and gain more from what we do here, and that's where our govt have failed us miserably.
Yupla klia now?
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C'mon, can't you see that your standard of living could be somewhat better than what you're experiencing today? PNG is endowed with so much natural resources yet successive governments have failed in transforming these to tangible benefits for all to enjoy...I wonder if you will still enjoy your life in png after all the resources have all been used up.
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There's few ways one could look at this situation.
1. You can work overseas to gain valuable experience that you can one day return to PNG and put to good use. Either set up your own business to employee locals and transfer your knowledge and contribute to the economy of your country.
2. Educate your country men to not vote people of the corrupt mind. wantok system has never serve anyone any good if you look at it properly instead of getting so defensive. Voting for your incompetent so that you can benefit from them getting positions they are not capable to handling except getting rich overnight. Somare was again voted in and there he is again and again at the helm of the country, but nothing to show for to the rest of the world. Why don't you guys wake up to yourselves and vote in the people who are going to work for the people.
3. Contribute in some ways like assisting some unfortunate schools students in terms of scholarships.
4. Or Shut up and enjoy your hard earned money instead of always saying why doesn't the government do this and do that. Until one can help him/herself don't expect anyone else to help you let alone the PNG Govt.
I sponsor about 7 high school students and about 15 primary school students and only about 5 of them are my wantoks although I live in Australia as I married an Australian. I am in the process of setting up a couple of small business at the village level so that locals can be employed at the minimal wage to be able to afford to pay school fees for their children and more. As I see it, our good Lord blessed me with a good job after graduating with an university degree in the IT industry and it would be great to see some if not all these kids one day getting employment where they can continue the chain of love.
It's up to the ones who have to help the have nots to break the cycle of poverty and not rely on a VERY UNRELIABLE govt. So, get off your backsides and do something for yourselves instead of abusing those go overseas seeking "greener pastures"
I am not a great fan of the Somare govt, but either fight corruption and start looking for ways to support yourselves or wait for the crumbs from the govt. There is not such thing as brain drain!
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Looks like "brain drain" has been kept in the dark.
I am one of those who had, had enough of low wages and working abroad. My wages are being sent back to png and I am on a 6 weeks on site & 2 week break back in png. So this kind of fly-in, fly-out thing, which used to be for Australians only working in one of those mines in png.
I have taken this opportunity with both hands and found myself, that I an no different to any Australian or Asian expat at work. Times have changed over time, however I am a product of our png education system. God gave us the same brain as any one out there.
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PNG is a hopeless case. As I put it previously, PNG loves corruption and despotism. You only have to look at who is running PNG to know that the people are hopelessly lazy, corrupt, inept and could not give a hoot whether someone next door is raped or murdered. If you did care then you would not elect criminals to power. You, the citizens of PNG, you are to blame for all this hopelessness. You! take the blame and be ashamed of yourselves and of your pathetic little whingeing country.
PNG should resign as a country and let North Korea run the show. You would be better off, wouldn't you!
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The state of our salary system in Papua New Guinea is far worst. A labourer in Australia is paid over 1000 dollars a week, in PNG you would recieve K56. In two weeks you get K112.00 under the labour laws.
An hourly rate for a teacher is $20 to $50 and in PNG and PNG some 72 toea.
You can't do anything with the money you receive for you two weeks labour. You can't save up, you can't travel to other countries, you can't buy a house, you can't even travel with PNG.
Transport, Electricity, Water and basic food cost very high PNG.
You only need to be a Politician to make you life comfortable. You have the acess to public purse.
With more power applicants in the house my power bill fro three months was $50 (K120), in PNG is would be K280 - K320.
Those are some of the basic things the government over look and make the ordinary people suffer. Maybe people are not feeling the pinch of it. I have and now see the difference.
There is no use working for the government of PNG. I'd rather resign and be self employed...
Well, this some things that makes PNG unattractive and cause of "brain drain". It will happen, is happening and has happened.
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You must be the wantok of the Bonga and likes, who rely on the spoils of deals like the Taiwanese rot.
Get real in life, grab the opportunities overseas and help in heaps the poor and down trodden in the poor remote villages of PNG.You tell me how many jobs are created for the thousands of grade 12 leavers and university graduates each year - Very little and if they are available, most times they are attached to some corrupt deals, like wantokism, nepotism, etc.
PNG is still our home but let us not rot away to extreme poverty here. Get the blessings and help our people. No fuss about this.
This country has only about 6 million people easy to manage. We have idiots running the show.
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You have my full blessing and support.We are slaves in our own country and paid peanuts and crumbs.
The lowest pay standards translate into the social indicators of PNG masses. We have amongst the highest infant mortality rates in the world , mother deaths at birth time, high HIV infections, very low literacy and neumerical levels. And the list goes on, on, on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The wealth from the mining, gas, oil is with those in political power and their cronies in the public sector. Plundering away in broad day light, no remorse or quilt.
Lets sell our expertise abroad and send money back to the haus lain.
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All you guys living and working oversea are only observing what is happening back at home. What have you done to correct any of the situations back home. When you're sending money home to your haus lain em private life bilong you. How effectively is that contributing to the big things happening. If you are concern use those big brains and start pulling some ropes or blowing some whistles, only then you're doing something otherwise shut yourself in your own little corner, shut up.
One person I've heard being abit vocal was Dr Clement Waine na yupela olgeta, just enjoy your blessings and don't say a thing coz you can not do anything constructive or effective.
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Money send from abroad as multiple impacts. Similarities in othe parts of the world.
Money send to relatives & families in Samoa, Tonga, Philippines and even the next world power(China)is in milions.Money is go round thing and so it circultes and has multiple benefits to the local economies.
IN PNG,social indicators are too appalling. I have met poor villagers
who have not even earnt more than K20 in a year. And there are thousands more out there in PNG. I have seen and made friends( in the settlements in Pom, Lae and other centres( who have come to the city to look for education, health, etc).
And the stupid govt is well aware of the rotting situation.
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Fellows, we live in a global world in this millenium with IT taking prime to improve all facets of life, be it health, education, business, you name it....the sames extends to working opportunities not to PNGens only but people from all over the world.
From recent studies, there is obviously a increasing trend of migration from the developing countries to the developed countries whereas the reverse is seemingly declining. Many factors contribute to this trend, the two main ones are; social and economical benefits.
Let me clarify that the so called "Brain Drain" is taken out of context. The most appropriate term is "Labour Leakage". The current trend of immigration is not only significant within the educated elites or university qualification catergory only, in fact, the largest group are the technical trades and the general labour group who form the bulk of the workforce pyramid. This stock of human resource are in demand in industrialised countries like Japan, US, England and Germany where their source of economy sterms from high technological innovation and industrialisation.
Countries like Australia, New Zealand, Saudi Arabia etc aresome what semi industrialised countries. And in order to boost their economy, due to their vast resource, they are seeking skilled labours to supplement their labour force. This may be a so called brain drain but proportionally smaller than general labour demand.
So ladies, if you wanna be a Nannie, and gents if you wanna be a Pizza boy, there's heaps of opportumities in US, Japan and Germany and they pay higher dollars than in Aussie. So the opportunity if there not only for the educated ones, there's room for the uneducated ones too.
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And what have you contributed to your country men/women so far apart from being so jealous of those giving educated opinions from overseas?
People working overseas bust their balls to send some money to their wantoks to survive because people like you and your govt aren't gonna create any employment opportunities for PNG. Careful that your govt doesn't sell off your country altogether. I mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how mining and oil and gas harvesting is booming but the people are so poor. Wake up and vote for the right educated people and stop this stupid so called wantok system. Grow a brain before shooting your mouth off.
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I agree with you all who are working overseas & helping the wantoks back home.
In PNG our wantok system succeeds in dragging everybody who is successful down to a nett zero position.
In addition, PNG though rich in resources, does not have the right conditions for those resources to trickle down & benefit everybody. This explains why in Austrlia's case, their economy is much more robust, their workforce much more productive & they are able to pay higher wages.
PNG, sadly cannot afford higher wages then your minimum K0.72/hr. The rest of the wages are derived relative to the minimum wage (unless you are a senior public servant or MP). Senior PS & MPs wages are set according to a formular not used for everyone else.
It is also very hard to do business in PNG, given problems such as, crime, unavailability of land, unreliable power & communications, unreliable transportation, etc,etc.
So you wantoks who can go overseas should do so and then continue supporting your relies back home. This way, hopefully within the next 10-20 years, we can have alot more people move up from the poverty line in PNG.
We need all the help we can get to move PNG forward, I think it is easier to do so from overseas, even though, I do not have the courage to leave PNG & work overseas. I tried it about 12 years ago & had to come back because I missed eating fresh fish & banana on the fire & eating sago, taro, aibika, etc.
I commend you all who can drag your heart away from PNG and work overseas, you have done well indeed. I salute you all.
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What have your Motuan people done for the country? You may be educated but sound like a dumb. How can you point finger at someone else when you yourself is not doing a single thing to developing your own place.
You decided to migrate because you couldn't do much in your own place. Letting someone else to clean up your yard and you're flooting in space. You should not even open your mouth but just enjoy your comfortable life.
Any educated elites either living overseas or on shore would know that it is the governments doing that life is so hard and unformtable. But what can we do or maybe what can you do. If you think you are capable of changing why don't you come and contest in the elections and make that long awaited change happen. Nogat pasim maus bilong yu na stap isi tasol.....ok
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You don't have to be a politician to make a difference in your so called country. YOU tell me what you have done for your people instead of waiting on your govt. You sound jealous!
You want to know WHAT I've done? I sponsor secondary and primary students from my village and am in the process of setting up businesses for the local to run to be able to afford school fees for their own children as well as give something back to the community. If you are waiting for the govt to give you a hand out, you will never grow up and I say grow up and take responsibility for your own life. As I see it, most politician are ones wanting to get rich over night, won't see them working for the people. People like you are ones wanting to become politicians with no vision.
I don't have to be a politician to make a difference. If you do what the rest of people working overseas are doing, your country will prosper and take ownership of their own resources. I say you shut your cake hole and crawl back into your cave.
Now, tell me what you have contributed to your country. I really would like to know.
Don't you dare tell me to shut up because you don't know me from a bar of soap.
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And how uneducated do you sound? Now it's Motuan versus whatever hole you crawled out of. Very childish response from you I'd say and uncalled for. If you have no vision or encouragement to write on this site, you shouldn't be opening your kaukau hole at well. You sound like a VERY angry person. I don't know who you are angry with. Your govt? people working overseas? people who are doing something but not giving you a hand out? I don't have to be a politician to be doing something for my people. I am doing something for my people and we all make choices where and what we want to be in life. If you read my opinions properly and with an open mind, you won't see me having a go at any particular race of people but rather I started with encouraging ones with the haves to help the have-nots because your govt ISN'T going to help anyone.
So, get off your big backside and do something my Dear!
JackAss!
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You sound like a very negative person. Looks like you don't know simple economics. Money sent by people from oeversease into PNG, whether it be to family members or to bussiness houses does have a positive effect on the country's economy. It raises the total cash flow within the country and hence the GDP..maybe the effect is hard to notice at first but in the long run if PNG people working overseas continue to send money to the relies in PNG, it does boost the country's economy gradually.
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Listen, I don't wanna know who you are or what you are or how you're sponsoring students or setting up business back in your village, that is your problem.
The reason why I responded negatively is because you were commenting negatively on the government. You know that it is because of some of the decisions they make that made the country to be where it is now. Thats why I was trying to simply tell you that if you got a problem with the government talk to your father "The Grand Chief Sir Michael Thomas Somare" instead of just bluffing.
Sponsoring students, setting up businesses either at home or in the city and becoming successful in this tough world is not a new thing. All of us are one way or the other doing it. Unless you're building sky scrappers and rockets.
No-ones your house-keeper!!!!!!!!!.....
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Your argument is baseless. You wanted me to become a politician to make happens and I TOLD you that you don't need to be a politician to make changes happen. I said, Govt is so corrupt that it's not going to happen people with employment, now let's do something for our unemployed, poverty stricken people. You wanted to know what I've done or not do for my backyard instead leaving it to someone else to look after.
Did you look after my backyard while I was or have being away?
I say, you don't post anything on this board unless you have some wise advice to offer. At the moment you are so twisted and full of anger and very negative. Nothing good has come out of your big mouth yet other than shooting hardworking people down.
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Another great mistake, Somare is not my Father. Call no man Father except God Above. That's another view can surely educate you on if you are an open minded person.
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In many countries where people have ideological problems with the ruling class they do one of 4 things:
a. they take up arms & fight,
b. they leave their country because they don't want to fight,
c. they join the ruling class,
d. they become disinterested and simply exist.
The ruling elite in PNG is a very exclusive group of people, granted, one or two new faces will join the clique from time to time but there is never a mass renewal of the ruling class, it is always the same group.
Almost always the ruling class in PNG is either not well educated or is not sufficiently experinced in life situations to take on the myriad of problems at hand.
Make no mistake, we are living under a totalitarian government. This is a government with absolute power. This is evidenced by the gaging of Parliament, the intimidation of the free press and more recently, the referel of the C. Ombudsman & the citing of the Chief Justice.
If you look through history you will find that what Somare & NA are now doing here in PNG bears striking similarities to what happened in Italy under the regime of Mussolini in the 1940s. We are also going down the same track that Suharto took Indonesia in the recent past.
So all of us belong in one of the four groups I mentioned before. Suffice to say, it is no surprise that we are all intent on blaming each other for the problems of our country. In any totalitarian nation, no individual is able to make a difference because as soon as one does, the ruling hunta will see this as a possible threat to their entrenched position and every possible action is taken to neutralise the threat. I do not think it is possible to make a significant individual contribution under the circumstances. It is possible however to make many individual contributions that are miniscule in nature but together, if done in tandem, will add to something in the larger scheme of things.
My view is that each individual PNGan should do what they feel is best for themselves & their own private situations. This is certainly not a problem where one solution fits all.
Dispela em liklik 2 toea contribution blo mi
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Missed the whole point again. Every little contribution makes a little difference, collectively will become big.
Pasim maus bilong yu na stap blo hole bilong yu. I don't need to build a skyscraper or a rocket to be seen contributing...start low and little and build onto it. Unlike you, you only have a BIG mouth with just HOT air.
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Missed the whole point again. Every little contribution makes a little difference, collectively will become big.
Pasim maus bilong yu na stap blo hole bilong yu. I don't need to build a skyscraper or a rocket to be seen contributing...start low and little and build onto it. Unlike you, you only have a BIG mouth with just HOT air.
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In case you are not aware, the kind of anger you harbor & are taking out on Mama ground is exactly the type of behavior a dictatorial regime tries to instil (covertly) in the populace.
So long as the regime can keep the people bogged down, squabbling amongst themselves, they can go about their business of self enrichment without hindrance.
When a meeting is called by the inner circle of our current ruling regime, the ruling junta will discuss strategies on how to maintain order in a fast deteriorating situation.
Some of the strategies include, sporting activities, shows, any kind of entertainment that makes the masses forget, even for a moment, that there is no food in the cupboard for instance. Or no medicines in the hospital, etc, etc.
There are more insiduous techniques like pitting one ethnic group against another or one special interest group against another, etc (divide & rule).
I could go on, but if you take a moment to study this government, you will see that they are employing age old techniques of people manipulation, that Alexander the Great & Julius Caeser & others have employed down the ages. None of this is new, only the ignorant masses like us; are the modern day pawns in this political game.
I would not be surprised that Somare has some very smart & cunning advisor sitting in the back room putting all these strategies together. As soon as they play the tune 99% of us begin to dance.
So please take a moment friend ...
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I disagree with you that Motu Kekei is haboring any anger towards Mama Graun. I think it’s more of a self-defense than anger. Just reading and comparing their posts, I’ve noticed that Motu Kekei started initial post of what can be done by those working overseas, how they could assist those back home and try break the cycle of poverty. Motu Kekei stated how assistance is given to them that can’t afford school fees for their kids. Motu Kekei also stated that those of us back home don’t VOTE for people like Somare and his allies. That’s the root of the problem. Voting the wrong people into power.
Mama Graun then attacked saying whatever you do won’t affect anything in the big scheme of things and telling Motu Kekei to “shut up and stay in his/her little corner”. I kinda disagree with Mama Graun's opinion here. Every little contribution towards the people of PNG does make a big difference in the lives of them that live in poverty. We can’t all make it to the Big Haus because, unless we vote with a true and educated mind instead of greed and how much comes out of our mouths to win votes, this country will never go forward. Mama Graun then asked Motu Kekei what the Motuans have done for the country. This attack may have provoked Motu kekei to attack back.
I think all Motu Kekei is trying to present here is to stop shouting at each other or blaming each other and start doing something at the grassroot level because the Govt doesn’t go that low. People at the level are the ones that are suffering. There are lots of church groups or overseas volunteers coming into the country to help people at the grassroot level.
Mama Graun, instead of trying to break into the Big Haus, maybe educating people at the grassroot to be self-reliant more than trying to get into the Haus first to solve all problems is not going to solve anything in the ‘big contribution’ you are after. People own coffee/cocoa/copra plantations, oil, gas, you name it. If people are educated on how to negotiate with the Govt, then Govt might realise that it needs to work with the people to access that kind of resources.
Yes. Everyone and Motu Kekeu will agree 100% that this Govt is well secured in its corruption and bad governance. This Govt has the right ‘wrong’ people to look after its interests and people of PNG I don’t think is in that pool of interests.
So, all in all, I salute you Motu Kekei et al, keep up the good work and am sure lots of people benefit indirectly with your little contribution to this country.
May God be with you and your kindred!
God bless PNG
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Big words, but I don't think anything is done in secret like in an army regime. Assistance maybe directed to a certain locality for now, but I'm hopeful that as it grows, it will overflow to the next village and hopefully to the next. nothing secretive about it.
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Just thought I'd clarify my intentions to assisting the have-nots.
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Mama Ground?
Don't shoot too high! That's where the problem is with not so intelligent people thinking that they can run the country and see where it got you. Voting your hopeless wantoks into parliament and they can't even do anything for the people. They think they will make a difference when voted in right to the top jobs yet they think and act like kanakas.....
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PNG Politicians are Incompetent Emanated From Voters Wantokism
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June 4 2008, 11:22 AM
Illiterate poor voters voted in their wantok who doesn't know simple match, science and english.
A politician can speak english but can not articulate its contextual and content use. He does not know simple match in order to calculate resource use and lack science to understand the dynamics of of globalisation, technological innovation and market changes around the world that ultimately influence PNG's future.
PNG is part of the global village and these changes around the world may have both positive and negative impacts on the rural populace. Thus PNG politicians lack the knowledge and skills to run this country.
I work in the highlands of PNG and can see the dilemma of rural people trying to find end meet. I also note some good thinking PNGeans have left for green pastures overseas because the politicians are incompetent to make policies that helps PNGeans.
I think PNG needs revolution in its policies right accross the board but who will do it. This politicians are able to......incompetent.
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Motu Kekeni you seem to be talking about too many holes here, which hole are you talking about...cave holes, rat holes, snake holes or your hul bilong yu..
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Don't think asking for forgiveness with sarcasms is really asking to be forgiven. Say it like you mean it or feel you need to, but one doesn't have to be sarcastic when saying it.
BTW, don't use the same IP address when trying to remain anonymous!
Like I said before, provoke people unto good works. Give positive criticisms. There's too many people with negativeness when talking or posting here that won't help anyone in any way.
What does scape or scapers mean? Is this a PNG 'english' word? haven't heard it before in the IT world.
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You know, i am just like my father, who was one of the lucky ones to escape from indonesia in the 1960's he arrived here and is now a distinguished person in the medical profession, he is a simple man, and believe it or not this man walked all over our country, from Okapa to Daru, Popondetta to Wau, he has done so many things for this country and he instilled that in me, whether he knows yet or not. Now here i am a Doctor in my own right, treating the sick in Mambisanda, Enga. I have this desire that PNG should move forward, and i know that if i keep working as hard as i can doing the things i can do, working for the system that sh*ts in my face, putting up with all of that then i can go to my Lord with a great happiness, that i did something to help my country.
If you think losing me won't be much loss, here is my statement to you, VHA all subjects, Grade 10, Ausaid Scholarship, Qld OP3, Science Foundation, GPA 4, Medical School 3 consecutive GPA 4. That might seem proud and arrogant, but that is what i have to offer PNG. I will give PNG my all because though I am sarcastic and cruel about our future, i know there is a future there ready for us, but we must grab it as a people, as a nation as one country (so the song says).
Mama graun PNG noken trautim yumi igo lo narapela solwara, holim yumi pas lo bross blo yu na banisim mipela lo bagarap.
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