Mark my word, Bire Kimisopa and Garry Juffa will fry all MPs and uncover all corrupt deals, uproot all Commission of Enquiry recommendations and will task the government to bring to light all the pending issues including the NPF Saga, Moti Saga, etc.


Papua New Guinea should rally behind these two young and determined Papua New Guineans. I won't accept any negative comments about these two for as long as my instinct says these two are the hopes of PNG.

I pray that God will provide more wisdome to these two leaders.

Go Juffa, Go Kimisopa!

Kange

How can they do that if they are in opposition?

yes, that is where they are gonna do best. you clown!

The nation is talking about Kimisopa's and Kulang's double pronged attack on the government regarding coruuption. Their statements have attracted international attention and ABC Australia has run a program on these statement. Australia is keenly observing O'Neil.

O'Neil deliberately avoided the Public Servants Housing Scheme debacle in his reply in the PC and the National of 14/08/12 because K30 million of taxpayers money was burnt up through corruption.

The NPF saga never went beyond the commital courts because cerdible evidence were tampered with by corrupot police officers investigating the case. The case is not dead but sleeping and Basil is already snooping around to put the final nail to the PM's coffin.

O'Neil will be impeached and his regime could be over before the end of this year. By the way, Polye was very supportive of Kimisopa and Kulang because he was given a raw deal by O'Neil.

Lets jail a few big birds Bire, juffa, Basil, and Kulang.

Be sure you include Namah on that list of corrupt birds to jail!

I haven't seen O'Neill's reponse - could you post?

He knows that he can't be tried under the old evidence and something went wrong with the old evidence that got him off the hook I forgot what now........


News
Tuesday 14th August, 2012
PM on NPF
O’Neill to re-open inquiry based on new evidence

PRIME Minister Peter O’Neill has challenged all Parliamentarians to give their backing to the passage of the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) Bill when he introduces in his term of office.
Mr O’Neill said last night, any Member of Parliament that was serious about fighting corruption should show their colour when it came to supporting the Bill when it hits the floor of Parliament.
The Prime Minister said it was easy for leaders to come out asking him to take a position on a number of issues including corruption, because they wanted to look good in public as anti corruption campaigners but the real test would be to support the ICAC Bill.
Mr O’Neill is one of the proponents of the Bill which he said last night was being looked at by Government lawyers.
“I am hoping that I can table it in Parliament before or by the end of the year. It will be tabled as soon as possible. The only thing keeping it away from being tabled is the Budget, but government lawyers are looking at it right now.
“I want to steer all Parliamentarians to support this Bill instead of talking about corruption. That is my commitment to fighting corruption. The ICAC Bill is expected to give the Independent Commission Against Corruption more bite and wider powers to investigate people of all levels suspected of promoting or practising corruption.
Mr O’Neill said this after Goroka MP Bire Kimosopa at the weekend called on him to take on corruption including “clearing himself’’ of allegations of corrupt deals in the NPF saga of 1988. Mr O’Neill said he would welcome any new evidence regarding issues investigated under the 1998 National Provident Fund inquiry.
“And based on new evidence I could re-open the inquiry,’’ Mr O’Neill said.
“I have had my day in court on allegations made against me in the inquiry report which is with the Public Prosecutor. Charges against me were dismissed by the court because there was no evidence of impropriety and culpability proven against me.”
“Yes, I am not above the law. I will gladly re-open the NPF inquiry as a high profile independent probe that will be above political influence if there is new evidence to do so. Otherwise I urge Kundiawa-Gembogl MP, Tobias Kulang, and Goroka MP Bire Kimisopa to provide new evidence of any improper conduct by me.
“I will welcome the new evidence --- not political steam. I want Tobias Kulang and Bire Kimisopa to know that I have nothing to hide. I want them to also know that I am not above the law,’’ Mr O’Neill said..
“Based on solid new evidence I will re-open the NPF inquiry and I will make sure the probe is conducted at a level that is above political influence, interference and coercion.
“That investigation 14 years ago was politically-motivated to smear my name and reputation at that time as a businessman and that of former Prime Minister, the late Sir William Skate by our political enemies in power at that time,” Mr O’Neill said.
“That inquiry did not probe into the millions kina of contributors’ money lost on the stock markets by NPF management at that time.
“The NPF report was tabled in Parliament by the former Somare-government in 2002 and it is a public document for anyone to access,” Prime Minister O’Neill said.

These two men are putting on a very good show. Their interest will die out soon.

You won't accept any negative comments?

Then you're just as dumb and stupid as the people who are 100% in favour of other politicians, the politicians get caught red handed in some monkey business, yet their blind supporters still "won't accept any negative comments."

People like you are exactly what's wrong with PNG. If you want our country to stop being a banana republic, we've all got to accept the truth, no matter how unpleasant it may be, and use the truth to progress.

Please, get out of your caveman thinking!

Stop crying. The facts are stated. Prove these politicians wrong.

No one wanted to stand up and speak out and they are standing up now. Will they succeeed or not remains to be seen.

Let it be thus

Advice,

I agree with some of your points. With due respect to Bire Kimisopa, whom I admire his God fearing leadership.
To produce quality leaders, one being a leader has to endure criticisms and challenges.

Also in good leaders, there are weaknesses that needed to be corrected and changed.

Also is that, it is very easy to make statements to attack argue over something of national or local importance but the most challenging task is to prove with action what some has proposed or stated in public.

So we must be very careful in the way leaders a re making statements. Lets have to see the genuiness of the statements the leaders make, the motives behind, the seriousness of the statements and from which angles they are coming from.

Papua New Guineans are good at making very very quick conclusions over situations or events or statements made by leaders without giving careful thoughts about the rational behind the issues being proposed.

Sometimes later, people realized that MPs and to be leaders have some hidden or personal motives in their argument and do not do it for the sack of the nation. Therefore, we need to be observants and carefully analyse the pros and cons of the statements leaders are debeating over them before we say something that is not logical and then realised that we were moved by emotions with any substantiative evidence at all.

Just my analysis so do not be down hearted!

Thanks.

Good argument. Now the onus is on the PM, Sir J, Wingti, Department Heads, and police to investigate and expose Kimisopa, Juffa, Basil, Kulang etc, etc.

In the interest of justice, it is only fair that they expose them.

Otherwise, who stands codemned. Those who are accusing or the accused?

Correct,

when you point a finger to someone, we never realized that the four points back to us.

To have the best PM candidate in PNG in the near future I believe today is the appropriate time to clear the names of all the MPs on their corruption status.

Otherwise, if some continue to point figures at Oneil without knowing that they might be involved in some illegal deals. Who knows unless all the 111 MPs have turn in being investigated and find out who is clean and honest.

So its very sensitive to point fingers at someone...be careful, sometimes it comes back as the saying goes, whatever goes around, also comes around.

Thanks

Quite intruiging. Sir Frederick Rheier quietly returned the K33 million........something is really fishy here.

Not more than a week after Kulang and Kimisopa took th PM to task, the money ends up with Department of Personnel Management.

Can some legal expert on "contracts" enlighten us here?

Hooray to Bire and Kulang

Offical coruption has lost face - and it began with the PM.

Official corruption lost face - and it began with the PM during his NPF stealing - which was caught and for the first time in PNG history, publicised widely in the newspapers, with the inquiry report and evidence placed on the internet where it still remains, over a decade later.

For those who have doubbed Kimsopa as HOT AIR, read the The National Editorial of 28/08/12

Kimisopa cleaning up Goroka
Source:
The National, Tuesday 28th August 2012
IT is gratifying to see a parliamentarian actually walking the walk and endeavouring to get his district on the right path.
Goroka MP Bire Kimisopa certainly has not wasted any time to see that his electorate begins his second five-year tenure in the best possible circumstances.
Last week, an advertisement was taken out in this paper calling for a return of “all public assets belonging to the people of Goroka”.
The Goroka joint district planning and budget priorities committee (JDP&BPC), under the chairmanship of Kimisopa, has begun in earnest recovery action against persons/custodians or agents in possession of or using unlawfully state assets in the form of motor vehicles, plant and equipment inclu­ding earthmoving and farming machinery.
Imagine that, an MP trying to recoup state assets rather than, as is the case with most electorates, write it off as a loss and wait for the next district budget session to heap more (avoidable) costs on the taxpayer.
Bravo to Kimisopa and his initiative. It shows he is thinking about the larger picture of developing Goroka but is not neglecting to dot his i’s and cross his t’s. The public notice went on to state that there would be punitive measures taken in the form of civil and criminal proceedings against anyone who was in possession of “stolen property” to recover the “monies and properties”. There is even a deadline for the return of the state’s property – this Friday, Aug 31.
Kudos to the Goroka MP for his stance against the status quo, of letting the current trends dictate how he plans the progress of his electorate.
One of the main setbacks new MPs have to deal with at the beginning of their terms is a district government that has not progressed appreciably since the last MP’s term or, more often than not, one that is in a shambles. The disarray usually follows when cronies of the former member and those appointed during his reign claim state property or simply steal it under the pretext of having done one service or another for the district.
This behaviour is rife in provinces throughout the country. It is one of
the reasons why the various district offices are unable to do their duties.
It is not for us to speculate here what state the Eastern Highlands’ provincial capital and its surrounds are in, but this situation is indicative of a perennial problem. It seems that with every new leader coming into office, the electorate must re-set and re-fit itself to a new set of priorities and directives.
Kimisopa’s return, however, is a welcome sign for the electorate as he has been widely recognised as a professional and someone who has the acuity to get the job done. In his previous term (2002-07), Kimisopa, a lawyer by profession, was appointed the internal security minister.
He is perhaps best known for his heading of a ministerial committee tasked with producing a comprehensive report on the impact of guns and other dangerous weapons on Papua New Guinea society. That report was completed on schedule and tabled in parliament. The recommendations contained within have yet to be implemented.
Despite this, it was clear from the beginning that the Goroka MP was an individual capable of undertakings most MPs would balk at – his notice is the latest proof. We hope that Kimisopa’s actions are to a large extent mirrored by his brother MPs.
It would be hugely reassuring if every MP instituted a “stock take” of their districts of the expenditures and the results of government spending at the micro level.
What also needs to be produced in a short time are plans for the district, both annual and an overall five-year. This should be a prerequisite for MPs at the beginning of a term.
If there is a set of standards, the success of an MP’s time in power should be measured against, it should be if he or she brought any tangible and discernible improvement to the electorate. Are there better roads? Were schools assisted in a sustainable way? Were opportunities provided for the people to earn a living? Was the standard of health care improved? For all the money spent on the electorate what has been the overall effect?
Obviously these indicators must be backed up by facts and figures and it is no small matter if it is to be done right.
That is why the people of Goroka should feel confident in their man because he has already got the ball rolling in his electorate.

Sad to note that the editor who wrote this doesn't know that Kimisopa is actually an accountant by profession (ex Unitech), not a lawyer. Most of the lawyers in parliament are a bunch of opportunists/conmen and are causing alot of the legal/constitutional problems in PNG.

It's highly professional accountants like Kimisopa and Kulang who will come in from check and balance perspective and clean up all this rot in Waigani. PNG must support them.

These two men have guts to fight against coruption. unfortunately Robert Lepatu didn't make it to the top at the race in Moresby North West.
He will come back one day. And Bire is on the Move. Bire's news article woke some of his Member colleagues from the dream land.even New Generation Party officials defended themself, said that Bire's statement was not in the best interest of Party. This is clear indication of people without strong minds.

Bire told me one day,he said:" I only wish one day God fearing Leaders to come together and run this country." I believe his wish will come true any time soon.


What's going to happen in Goroka is not by mistake...??????

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Bire has kick started the campaign against corruption and he started it from his electorate.

Can we have a few more on the board too! He cannot wage a one man war, after all the publicity about fighting corruption

You haven't given a scrap of evidence to back up the title of your posting. And in case it has slipped your mind, not one thief has gone to jail yet from this so called anti corruption programme. On the other hand if you were a grassroots and you stole a PK from the evil RH hypermart you'd be in prison faster than you could say Kimisopa. So where's this success you're ************ us about? It doesn't exist!

Where is the result of the Anti-corruption Program or action taken. Too much talking does not make any sense.

Some people in this forum might be out of their sense as well because they don't even provide a very simple evidence to justify that the named MPs are seriously addressing coruption.

Corruption has taken 40-50 years to develop to the stage where we are now seeing and trying to control in but unfortunately has taken root in all the government institutions, corporate bodies, NGOs and other organizations in this country.

To really fight against it, it may likely to take more than the time taken to develop into its current stage.

Therefore, people using the media and other means to shout at corruption will never and ever work out right.. People involved in the processes to make corruption work are devising smarter strategies to be smarter in their deals.

So to work corruption is the national government business because PNG has develop this culture called corruption is working effectively well in our systems.
It is not something that belongs to an individual MP or a leader or whoever could be.

It is becoming a major impediment to development in all forms because it affects all systems.

Therefore, my suggestion is that if O'Neil-Dion government has concern for this nation, truely then, they should OVERHAUL ALL THE SYSTEM and start everything over it new....

Though Kimisopa has started saying atleast something about corruption but that is not enough and its just talking, we need more of such actions from all the 111 MPs of parliament.

Countryman

There was a public advertisement taken out by by Bire Kimisopa Friday 24/08/12 advising the former member for Goroka Thompson Haroqkaveh to return all asssets bought using public funds by 31st Spetember. Failure to do that will result in legal action being instituted against Thompson Haroqkaveh to recover these public assets.

It appears some of us are not reading the two dailies.

Either we sit in our comfrot zones and lament the effects of coruption or get up and join forces with those who are investing their efforts to fight corruption.

Good one Bire Kimisopa

We know that press releases and advert does not make any sense unless appropriate actions are taken as required.

Its foolish to make more emphasis about newspaper adverts that put up by MPs because such may or may not take effect.

We differ in our way of thinking that most of the common people are promoting in this forum. We want leaders to be more proactive and let actions speak for them.

That is what needed at this point of time in PNG.

Countryman

Lets wait and see. None of the new members have done what Kimisopa has done - taking their fromer MP's to task over DSIP grants and electorate assets.

At least former Goroka MP is being investigated for misapprioriating public funds and allowing his supporters to steal public assets - what more can we expect?

Goroka electorate is on the board for fighting corruption.

Go Bire Kimisopa

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More needs to be done to curb this deadly disease called corruption and what is Bire has initiated is just a part of the tip of the ice berg. It would take some years to atleast expose some culprits in the system and put the province back on track.

Many like minded leaders and public servants to support the good MP to continue fighting this enemy in our society.

Ta

It is NOT enough to expose them. They MUST go to prison and for lengthy periods.

Did you know that China has the death penalty for corruption? A. Somare, Pruaitch, Temu, Tientsen, Namah...... just a few who would have been put to death had they lived in China.

Jufaa and Basil have locked the PM in the fight against corruption.

Have they really? Why do you say that?

Read between the lines. Juffa and Basil are telling the PM that if you are really serious about fighting corruption then start by exposing corrupt MP's from within his coaltion partners, public servants, and Head of Department.

O'Neil is well and truly cornered by his own statement.
One question. Have the Sweep Task Force Team taken over the work of the Police and ICAC taken over the Ombudsman Commission?

Someone elighten us.

Where did you hear that an ICAC even exists? It is simply a proposal and has been a proposal for over a decade.

The Ombudsman commission deals with any breach of government rules, it doesn't have to involve corruption.

As far as the fight on corruption, I still see no one going to jail, or even put on trial.

I still see no one being denied bail, even if they conspicuously fail to appear to police or to a judge time and time again.

Does any of this indicate seriousness in pursuing corruption by any of the involved parties?

I believe that as far as O'Neill is concerned, he can stay silent longer than Jaffa and Basil (and where is Kimisopa now in all this) can keep coming up with fresh, newsworthy information that will keep the topic in the latest news.

The topic soon enough will fade away from the newspapers, radio and TV and O'Neill's silence will pay off.

Unless Basil and Jaffa are strategic enough to understand that is the process, they will easily be defeated by O'Neill.

Basil, Juffa, Kimisopa, and Kulang are the anticorruption advocates on the floor on parliament.

I am a poor taxpayer who is always concerned about the level of corruption in high places. Elelcted leaders and public servants stealing public monies.


When people like Juffa, Basil, Kimisopa, and Kulang stand up and speak out aganist coruption, I am more than satisfied. They are doing it on my behalf. I want my tax money to bring service to those in remote PNG and not end up in the pockets of people who will not stop stealing, even on their death beds.


Let them rot in hell with all thei ill gotten wealth.

I see. You're satisfied if there is lots of talk but no action, right?

Do you honestly think those 3 talking worry those who are stealing a single bit?

The only thing that works is PRISON SENTENCE.

But you don't seem very concerned about whether or not the corrupt get prosecuted, much less go to prison. You're happy as can be so long as MPs stand up, cry their pukpuk tears, and talk about how bad corruption is.

Did you notice in the papers? Even Peter Yama has joined in and is also talking about corruption.

You must be double happy now!

What you are saying is true politically. Sometimes it’s so hard to navigate the Waigani swamps that we the general public just give up and fold our hands do nothing and die isi isi because it’s much easier going down that way without a struggle. It’s very rarely that “genuine” pollies like Kimisopa, Kulang and Juffa come along with a power punch and try to say and do things differently. Even then we still rubbish them and prefer to die isi isi because it less painful that way than to have our hopes rekindled only to be disappointed, cheated and used “once again” by con politicians and political situations that don’t go our way.

These three guys are talking about corruption and are promoting a "zero tolerance" stance against corruption because they are wise and visionary enough to know that any government with an ounce of decay will still turn rotten in a short while. In fact, corruption left unattended will develop new strands and varieties and become even harder to eradicate leaving the people to continue suffering unnecessarily. I encourage the three strong leaders above to remain strong and uncompromising against corruption on behalf of the suffering majority on PNGns. Once you stop talking and pushing the envelope, PNG will be lost to the dogs and corruption will grow to even greater unprecedented heights than the Somare regime. You three are the true voices of PNG and the thin barrier between prosperity for PNG or corruption totally engulfing PNG.

Forget all this political rhetoric about "reconciliation/new start" and "working together" that is being promoted by the current government. We all know this is the lazy way out and only weak leaders with no work ethic and backbone will be bought into this. You cannot build a strong nation on a faulty foundation. The inner decay of corruption which you knowingly conceal still remains and will come back to haunt you.

The reason alot of us are seeing nothing been done about corruption (no people going to jail, etc...) is because govt agencies (police, courts, etc…) are being messed with politically and cannot be impartial enough to carry out their constitutional duties effectively without fear/favour. The current corruption stained govt is well aware of this disintegration and will cunningly maintain this status quo (or cleverly disguise it) at all cost to take advantage of the situation. Also, they do not want to shoot themselves in the foot as most of the current government members are corrupt. Government bodies will continually be the puppets of the current government including the police who have been bought off and now we see traces of this creeping into our judiciary who are been intimidated and/or bought off, like the police.

We need leaders like the above three men especially proven ones like Kimisopa who foresaw this and literally turned the police force on its head in 2004/5 when he was police minister. He identified root problems in the force as well as in Law and Order and set out policies and concrete actions to address them such as Police force pay increase to boost morale and ECP (assistance from Aussie Police Force) to develop higher standards in RCPNG to enhance capacity of police from just “polis ronim raskol” to deeper issues such as corruption, fraud and transnational crime. In fact his fact finding and addressing of issues was so effective that his own govt saw him as a threat and switched him to another ministry to cut short his good work. If Kimisopa remained the police minister, I’m sure some big heads would have rolled.

Kimisopa has proven himself on the national stage in his time 2002 – 2007 and people of PNG had a very rare sniff of genuine change for the better in a long time. A sweet smell of change still lingers and we have waited five years for Kimisopa. Please join up with your other two brothers and keep TALKING. Don’t stop TALKING. By the way, talking IS an ACTION. (Why can’t most scapers understand this concept?!) TALKING is the most powerful medium of communication that effectively disseminates and translates IDEAS into ACTIONS. You can’t get action without thinking and talking about your ideas. Talking creates awareness, and influences the masses and changes mindsets thus bringing about gradual but LASTING change which is what PNG needs, not immediate change. Immediate change is very dangerous….

Look beyond and don't be chained to the whipping post of pessimism.

Corruption is a wholistic approach. Jailing people wil come but the wheels of justice turn very slowly, excruciatingly slow in a society where benevolent partenalism underpins our way of thinking and behaving

O'Neil may chose to keep silent but he blew the whistle and started the fight against corruption. He kicked the ball and defined the parameters of the game so he has no choice but to make arrests, prosecute, and jail a few people.

O'Neil said thus and so shall it be

Bullcrap, O'Neill knows that all he has to do is make a little noise against corruption and the public will be too stupid to notice that no one is actually getting punished. Yeah, he'll make a big deal that he recovered blah blah blah money. The public will be delighted, we'll clap our hands in delight, and meanwhile, the guilty will go free, sighing in relief that they only lost their ill gotten money but not their freedom.

If you think prosecutions follow investigations, may I remind you of NPF?

Corruption will go on. O'Neill has nothing to fear because the critical evidence against him "disappeared" many years ago.

Wow! So corruption was taking place before independence? 40 to 50yrs is way back. Today marks the 37th anniversary. May God guide us!

Here is a perfect example where money is quietly returned and NO ONE GOES TO PRISON.

I hate this. ONeill isn't going to do what's really necessary to stop corruption.

MP: Return what belongs to State

By Gorethy Kenneth

ALL former Members of Parliament have seven days to return State properties that they have walked away with in Parliament and throughout their provincial offices.
Police Minister Nixon Duban said last night that millions of kina worth of State Properties have been taken out and not returned by 40 per cent of the former MPs.
A grace period of seven days has been issued to the former members and their staff to return the public properties or face police action. The seven days grace period starts from the date of the publication of this notice in one or both of the two daily newspapers in Papua New Guinea.
These properties include furniture, computers, photocopiers, motor vehicles, heavy machinery and office equipment such as computers and printers, purchased with public money for the use of their office and electorates.
“It has been brought to my attention that a considerable number of sitting members who lost their seats in the 2012 National General Election have not returned State properties, especially vehicles, and even heavy machinery bought with Government or public funds,” he said last night.
“In fact I have had complaints lodged by my colleague members of electorates with virtually no asset, be it vehicle or office equipment.
“I am now making a public appeal to all unseated leaders and their staff to return all state assets within seven days from this notice. State assets are those items that were bought using government/public funds for the running of the respective electoral offices such as vehicles, computers, printers, photocopies, including heavy duty machinery. Those who fail to return the state assets will be arrested and charged for misappropriation or illegally in possession.
“Over the last 40-plus years hundreds of millions of kina have been spent by MPs on the administration of the respective electorates but today there is virtually no evidence of this huge spending of public funds.
“I feel that if we hold leaders and their officers accountable we will minimise the wastage and public monies will be diverted to more needier and vital areas such as education, health and infrastructure development.
“I therefore, in the first instance, appeal to the former members and their staff to return what is not theirs. These assets belong to the seven million people of Papua New Guinea and you should not be misappropriating or illegally holding onto them.
“I appeal to you, as leaders, to do the right thing and return these assets within seven days.
“Failing that you, and you alone will be responsible for the consequences.
“Police in most provinces have been provided information as to what State assets are unaccounted for and in whose possession they are currently in.
“This is our country and if you still have it in your heart to serve your people then return these assets - that is the only proper thing to do.

Welcome onboard the corruption buster's band wagon.

Can we cut all the hogwash and start jailing a few people.

We need very good men in the government.

Juffa and Kimisopa are in the middle benches thus O'Neil should seriously think about offering them a ministry each. They seem to have so many good ideas, which O'Neil can use to benefit PNG.

Yes but it's not that simple. Both these men have their integrity to protect, that's one card they will have to play wisely otherwise they may be guilty by association.

Also, Paddy knows they may turn around and bite him.

Bire Kimisopa's ECP program and Justice Dept White Paper stand out in his efforts to fight corruption

What have the likes of juffa done wrong to be exposed?

the silence of kulang, bire and juffa on the K6b chinese loan is deafening.

looks like they have been enticed or bought out

Their silence indicates, they are in for a good slice of the cake. Thats what politics is all about. Its about painting a good pulic image and whilst people are digesting and talking about it, they run for the money.

Hope they can manage their stance all the way to show that they are geniune fighters of corruption.

megabo

Whats wrong with k6bil loan from china? Your pm says it will benefit png through infrastructure overhaul. You felt bad about that? You can't get smart m.ps like bire and juffa to cry foul over whats beneficial for png. Unless u provide them with evidence k6b is bad for png, these men still have their integrity to protect.