SometimesJune 28 2012 at 11:36 AM
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Bob Hanes (Login kenpo58)
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Response to Horizontal vs. Vertical
things appear differently than they are. I think you are labeling structural parellel configuration of bones as optimum alignment relative to the punch. But you see in biomechanics the body often uses complex geometric configurations to summate toward goals.
Also the vertical punch sacrifices a lot of backup mass by seperating the relationship of the weapon's alignment from tne central axis. Wing Chun guys try and adjust for this by drawing the punches to the centerline and throwing multiples but it does not work. The vertical punch feels like it hits hard if you hit a hard surface but you simply can't generate the power. A straight punch gets it's power from a kinetic chain linked to 2 fundemental power principles. Linear acceleration of the body by translating forward and rotation of the torso and these things cannot be corrctly transmitted into a vertical punch because of the striking surfaces terminal relationship to the body's center of mass.
Another consideration is that punches in karate do not rotate to the pronated position untile after they contact the target. You spin a punch down through a target and not on it with the excepetion of when you are hitting a very hard surface that has no give like a guy with the back of his head against a wall. Or when you simply want to make fast surface contact without pentrating.
This does not mean you never use a vertical punch. It simply means that it generates suboptimum power based on the major effectors of power. YOu might just like the punch. You might decide to use it for purposes of "fitting". It is more expedient at a certain distance if you can't make body position adjustments. You might want to teach it to people that are not commited to really learning how to punch in a short course.
My final statement..
****The vertical punch is a sham and a joke. It is an attempt for karate guys to try and make themselves and others believe they are cool. Guys that use it may secretly have female gender identity. Generally you will find that the guys that use it were the ones that never got picked for teams in High School or had cool girlfriends. I hate it. I just hate it so friggen much I can't even tell you how much. It also seems to be a gateway to more flaky karate just as marijuana is said to lead to stronger drugs.****
- Hello, Bob - Michael Miller on Jun 28, 2012, 11:59 AM
- Kool Aid - Rick on Jun 28, 2012, 12:50 PM
- LOL. Love it. - Michael Miller on Jun 28, 2012, 3:27 PM
- It is not that - Bob Hanes on Jun 28, 2012, 4:30 PM
- Okay - Michael Miller on Jun 28, 2012, 5:05 PM
- Cool - Rick on Jun 29, 2012, 12:03 PM
- I agree with Bob - Sami Ibrahim on Jun 28, 2012, 4:09 PM