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# Are you really using Marriage of Gravity?

June 28 2012 at 5:54 PM
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Albert Ichelson  (Login aroc1)
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Gravity is one of three forces in this world. The others are centrifugal force, and forward momentum. To utilize gravity or 'marry' with it, you or at least your movements would need to be all traveling on the 12 to 6 vertical plane. If you have forward momentum in your movement, gravity is now only a supplement or confluent with what is now forward momentum on a downward diagonal path....???

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Bob Hanes
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# This is the magic question...

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June 28 2012, 7:45 PM
 that all thinking kenpo guys should arrive at.. There are further answers depending on the trajectory of the weapon and position/movement of the opponent. However. You are always using gravitational marriage or "gravity". If I was not using gravity to my advantage when I hit someone they would just take off into infinity and the effect of the strike would be severely subtracted. So what I am saying is that IF gravity was not in the equation that is what would happen. So even if you are not actively attempting to use it it is still being used. So it is in the equation. Actually it is the most important part of the equation. Now in a counterpunch (reverse punch off the back hand) I think most would understand that gravity comes into that equation in another way as well besides the other two things you mentioned. When I rotate and linearly accelerate the punch I also generally screw down my center of gravity to solidify my structure. The screwing down, the rotation and the forward acceleration all become a unification of force that all focalize to become one force on impact. So gravity coupling your body toward the ground again is part of the equation. As far as 12 to 6. Even if a weapon is traveling along an angle to the ground when it hits it still is going down. But obviously the amplification of force from this with respect to a human weapon is minimal. Of course I have not adressed compounding force in accordance with the opponents direction of movement as that is a whole other issue relative to gravity.
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Sami Ibrahim
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# Many ways to use Marriage of Gravity

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June 28 2012, 7:50 PM
 I do not believe that a strike is limited to travel on a 12 to 6 veritcal plane to use Marriage of Gravity. You can use a knee from 6 to 12 and borrow the opponents force if you have suddenly removed their base prior to the knee, you could say your borrowing Marriage of Gravity. Im also not sure it really matters if marriage of gravity is only a supplement or confluent as long as its working for you and not against you.
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66.77.95.254

# Really.

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June 28 2012, 11:53 PM
 There are four accepted forces in the universe. Gravity, Electromagnetic,Strong and Weak. This is covered in Physics 101. A course every martial artist should have to pass at yellow belt. The term "Marriage of Gravity", though fine for when it was first used, is simplistic and inaccurate. I didn't like it when I first heard it and I don't like it now. At what point are you seperated from G. Never. Application of force should be described in terms of vector. Now, give me a better term.
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Sami Ibrahim
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# I thought he was talking about Kenpo lol

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June 29 2012, 7:10 AM
 If you do not drop your weight at the time of your strike, even if your body is not outside of gravity, your not using gravity to aid your strike... I would love to hear how those other forces you mention taught in Physics 101 can enhance our Kenpo lol?
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66.77.95.254

# Dear Universe

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June 29 2012, 9:37 PM
 My crazy uncle who doesn't know how your built wants to explain how you work. "Marriage of Gravity" is one of those terms that was made up in the moment to simplify a more complex idea. Unfortunately, it took hold. One should take the time to enhance his or her understanding on how to generate additional accelaration. You should want all your students to understand these basic principles at a higher level than "caveman beat stone with stone make fire". Let's be clear. I'm not getting personal or trying to get on anybody for doing what they do. I'm strictly speaking on the labeling of this particular idea. And the idea that "what is Force" vs. "what the forces in the universe that determine the very construction of it are". Perhaps Differentiated Vector Quantity due to utilizing the greatest available accelerant generator. F=m(a+x). mass being constant. a being 9.81 m/s2. x being the difference in vector status. Maybe too wordy. Maybe not smart enough. But, when you start to think in those terms it's more than just dropping your weight, it's using your mass in direction and application. Especially important when you're fighting above your weight. As for the other three, without them you just wouldn't exist enough to practice Kenpo. Thoughts?
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Chuck
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# Stomp and drop?

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June 29 2012, 5:21 PM
 How does that "sit" with you?
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# Marriage of gravity

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July 13 2012, 3:35 PM
 what's it married to? Is there a dissolution of marriage of gravity as well? It's not even gooder english folks. If we're going to require that students learn an incoherent language along with the material, why don't we make it French or something? Useless Kenpo babble. Almost insulting and totally unnecessary. It's almost as insulting as "angle of incidence"
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# Uncle Dave

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July 20 2012, 5:52 PM
 Do you need a drink? LOL.
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Todd
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# "Power Generators"

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June 29 2012, 12:32 AM
 http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy00/phy00305.htm before you all go to far with the "power.... " maybe the guy talking about physics has something... Good Journey, Todd Durgan
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