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Keeps the banned trash people out.


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Remember, all you losers, your word means nothing here.

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Just saying "such and such" or "he did this, or has that", is MEANINGLESS.

We gotta know WHO YOU ARE, WHERE YOU LIVE, AND BE ABLE TO CALL AND TALK TO YOU.

I can call Jeff, I can call Jan. I can call John Green, Bob Gimlin, Henner, dozens of PhDs, I even MET Bob Herionimous. I can call Greg Long,

even skeptics. Even BISCARDI. Even Coleman, and even Moneymaker.

You losers, I can't call you. (not that I need to ...)

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Here is the beef.......MBA -Cal Berkeley

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Class of 1966 - Lost Alumni
Please email their contact info to alumni@haas.berkeley.edu,
so we can send them info about their class reunion

MBA 1966

Jonathan P. Atkinson
Randolph R. Bach
Harry W. Backeberg
John M. Baker
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Jon Beckjord
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I just resent high-school drop-outs like Marlowe questioning me.

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Burns my beans,,,,

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Load of Bull Man

by Chris Haslip (no login)

Dude, from the stuff posted here and on the other sites I've surfed, you need to be questioned.

The crap you post is lies and your just poed that Marlowe did it first.

If you got all the smarts, how's come you can't get a college to make you a teacher and do a class of your own?

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My own CZ class will be online soon.

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Dig this = people get married, change names, all sorts of stuff.

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But all my stuff is listed under BECKJORD, got it?

I am not sure my honors paper is in the Tulane Library,

but here is the deal -- you people are too cheap to make a phone all.

you want it all on the Internet, and I want to see YOU PAY.

The world is not free. Pay for it.

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Well, THAT shut up most critics. For the rest, ask for a transcript.

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Assuming you even know what that is....

send check for $30.00 written payable to University of Caifornia

and with your ADDRESS, and I will pass it on, they will mail it to you.


But no fear, 99% of you cannot afford toilet paper, and use pine needles.



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This site is acting strangely -

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The newest post is no longer at the top -
What gives?

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To Terry Trainor (AMPAT).....

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.....Terry,

I know it is hard to swallow BUT, every post you view here(from her) is from JANICE CARTER COY. To presume or assume that Janice is not capable of posting and "providing an intelligent conversation" is piss poor on your count. For the life of me bro(ther); I am trying to figure out why it is you believe her story....BUT...yet you assume she is less than what you've read? She's absolutely intriguing don't you think?

I know you are trying your best to "preserve" the legacy of Mary A. Green(because she is your friend) but the hard "truth" is my friend is that she did NOT write the book in its entirety(I know this because I have been closer to her than any of you have).

If you've got a copy of the "50 Years" book then good for you.Keep it! Treasure it! Because there will be NO more. Twenty years from now it may be worth its weight in gold!

It's sad my friend; However, you can MOST CERTAINLY continue your own research with us. What says 'ye to that my fellow researcher? Will you go bone dry? OR will you take personal initiative and branch out??

It may cost you your relationship with the "beloved QUEEN BEE!" At what age will you start to think for yourself?


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hey jeff

by brian (no login)

I did wanna ask......why are you out to get Mary??What do you think she did to you??First of all I personally wanna say the reason why we changed the group to the UBRG isn't because we were trying to harm you or destroy the CBO it was because you were noit there for us for an extended period of time mr. President......You needed to apoint John or someone the responsibilities till you got iver what you were going thru bro.You did not do this You sismply vanished from us.WE ALL were worried stiff about you.You started drinking heavy and saying weird things on the messege board like you were not yourself.Well we waited as long as possible and I personally asked Mary what we were going to do and we all thought it would be a good idea to move on forward.So we did.So stop being upset with Mary because she was dealing with the Bigfoot creatures since You and I were in diapers.She has the knowledge of the creatures and It is mighty funny everyone thinks Jan has all the knowledge well if this is true why did she contact Mary a bigfoot researcher for in the first place.Jan has told me as well as others many times she has dyslexia well when I spoke to her as much as I have in the past her sentence structure as well as some words were always spelled backwords or misplaced in the sentence structure.One of The reasons why she was Kicked out of our group was because she let Lawrence write for her in the committe side of the messege board which that side is a private board and NOONE but the committee members are supposed to access it.The writting on the board which he wrote for her resembles the writing here.I am sure we the UBRG can find some of the real Jans writtings so eb or you can see what we are talking about.Also why would a preacher and nice guy like Terry lie.He has no reason to lie.He wants to learn about the creatures and that my friend is why he is with Mary and the UBRG to learn from each other.I am not a researcher I am an enthusiest I cannot go into the field to do any serious research at least till I get out of the place I am at.I am just sending this messege to you b ecause all you and eb are doing is bashing people and y'all are free to do this but it really makes y'all look very small in my book.In this whole messege board there is very little research that has been talked about and the board is only being used for bashing people in my book....Oh and eb You need to forgive people instead of bashing people.......the bigger person in my book is the one who forgives....I have always been told this.It is the basis of most religions christian,wiccan,prodestant,muslam.All believe in peace and forgiveness.


sorry if I mespelled any words......I wonder if you can add a spell check here eb....see if they offer it ok.....well Happy holidays y'all and stay safe out there in the woods and remember to be safe and use the buddy system.

brian

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Jeff had family problems, I guess.

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Now fixed.

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VERY Fixed!

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Happy and my "old self" again.


jt

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Hi Brian .......

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• I am not out to harm Mary A. Green in any way. I personally believe that EVERYONE creates their own "hell" or "heaven" (you can choose you know?). Insofar as I know; she has done nothing to me that causes distress or uncomfort.

• I don't know a "Lawrence" and I really don't care if Terry were an "Indian Ice Princess". Divinity in any form does not make you pure at heart. I guarantee that everyone reading this board LIES atleast once daily(a small lie or BIG lie). Its one of our nasty human habits that we can never defeat.

• As far as "someone" being there for the "US" you mentioned...."Is it a must that someone hold your hand through research? Are you not capable of conducting independent research?

• On the "drinking"....hell yes; I am GUILTY! I did what 98% of normal men do when going through divorce or death of a loved one.

• No one on this board "denies" that M. Green had bigfoot activity in her life at one time. Heck, I have been with her during some of those experiences.

THIS IS IMPORTANT: Thousands if not tens of thousands of executives dictate on a daily basis. For instance, in my old profession (design engineer); I sometimes lacked the time to write memos and corporate letters. I'd take my micro-cassette player, state what I wanted "written" in a memo and then give it to my secretary for her to type up and send out. Now, with that being said.....did I write the letter or did my secretary? I think this is the case with Jan and may be what you all are concerned about. If Jan does not physically write something but rather uses the above mentioned method....."it still is her writing!" It conveys her point RIGHT?

• What exactly are all of you in the United Bigfoot Retirement Group upset about? We'd sure like to know. Heck, you guys are visiting our board more than your own


Darth



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Hey Jeff

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I am not upset about anything, as you have noticed I have not posted much at all. Nor do two people of my group denote the group's opinion as a whole. I rarely come here and do not wish to get involved in any personal squabbles, between individual researchers. I have no hard feelings toward anyone, or this group as a whole. I am glad that you have straightened out everything in your personal life Jeff and I hope that it continues to improve, because we truly were worried about you. I do apologize, but can not speak for those, that continue to refer to past issues, that don’t have to do with present or future research. I am sure that they mean well and are looking out for someone they and myself hold dear. I am the President of the UBRG, but I don't hold anyone’s doctrine of this subject over another. I am impartial in my views and reference what I have experienced and documented to other’s experiences and documentation. I wish all researchers the best and I will say that the UBRG as a whole, has not and will not orchestrate any attack personally or on a group as a whole ever. I hope everyone has a happy holiday season, and God bless.

Nathan Davis
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how about you guys meet and beat the sh*t out of each other?

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Or at least take this to email.

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LOL

by Janice Carter (no login)

Erik, they have met before. Thank goodness both men have acted like true gentlemen. I'm sorry folks but somethings that Erik says crack me up and I have to be cheered up some way. Thanks for making my day.
Yours,
Jan

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How are you doing Janice

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I have not heard from you in a while I did write to Tom on myspace, but did not get a reply. I hope you have a Merry Christmas and I hope everything is going well with you.

Nathan

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Thank you Nathan

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We are doing fine. I have a my space also under Painted Willow. I think Tom answered you after reading this today. He gets a lot of e-mails from his girls over on my space and yours was buried among theirs. Sorry about that. Happy Holidays to you.
Yours,
Jan

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Sounds to me like the hatchet is already buried -

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and not in anyones skull, either, Erik.

For my part, I am not interested in attacks either, actually.

Unless you consider Mary's public statement, or giving you fair warning about someones conflicting claims an attack -

Jeff has always treated me fairly, and I have tried to respond in kind -
If I have failed in that, I apologize.

Can't we all just - get along?
(tm Rodney King)

Terry

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Terry, we are trying

by Janice Carter (no login)

to get along, but that shot below the belt you made toward me the other day made me blow my top at you and Brian. I'm sorry for saying a lot of that, but I'm not one to sit around acting like everything is hunky dory, when it is not so. I get mad, I let it be known. I am not making cheep shots toward Mary and I shall not on any of these message boards. I'll just say we had a falling out and don't see eye to eye and let others believe what they wish. They will any old way no matter what is said.
Happy Holidays,
Jan

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For you information

by Janice Carter (no login)

I never let anyone write for me Brian nor post anything to your so called private message board. I am dyslexic, whoop tee do, big deal. Have you never heard of spell check or open office? Get it, as I see you desperately need it to help you spell correctly. It works on any message board. You, like others assume to much. As far as my contacting Mary, I did after first contacting the BFRO. Everyone contacts someone when they first get on the internet, are new to it, and have knowledge in this field. Mary would have never had the story of 50 Years had it not been for me. It's my story, my life. Not hers or anyone else! So get over it. I'm over your and the rest of your gangs bull crap. I'd rather dance with the Devil in the pale moonlight than to associate with any of you Marynites.
Jan

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Re: For you information

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well what my question is jan is this./Why go to a researcher if you have all this knowledge of the bf.The thing is this.Jeff left the CBO for a long time.We wanted to move on and this is what we did.He blames Mary for disolving the CBO which she did not do.Jan You let Lawrenc in on the Committee side which is a totally private side for decision making.Most all groups have this.You chose to be with a person Mary has said she did not trust.He was trying to make a seperate group so people would have to pay for this and that and didn't think on asking the committee members.Yes we are Maryites because we trust her,she has never led anyone down nor has she harmed anyone,she trusts to much actually,she has been researching in one way or another since most of us were in diapers.She has helped the bro set up what they have and they used her knowledge and she left when they came out and claimed pro-kill stance.Jan you chose to be in touch with eb while you were with Mary and now she is just finding out about it.You also know she did and does not trust him or many others she thought she could trust.And for you to be a part of it when you clearly stated eb did send a poisonous blanket to you.heck you and I personally discussed this some years back.Don't think that me coming here or terry coming here is condoned by the UBRG.It isn't.I am coming here as an individual and am stating what I personally feel.The thing is Eb has already said if you arent doing anything with your research he will invade it to do real research.So while you were on the farm if he would have done that how would you have felt???Hey you wouldn't let me come there because you had told me in paltalk as well as gene that if y'all let others come there who the bf do not recognize it will mess up the research or at the least slow it down that you have been trying to do.So what about Marys' research do any of y'all give a damn about anything but yourselves...This is my question to you????

And Jeff you don't know what we post on our messege board nor how much.

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Getting sick of this junk - who CARES about CBO or any other TN group?

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One THING is right - if Jan has a good research situation going, she
has more going for her than any group,

but---people can assist like the guy from NC by helping feed bf.Duncan.

WITH ALL THIS FIGHTING NONE OF YOU HAVE TIME FOR RESEARCH

EB

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erik

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I don't think we are fighting...this is an older post anyway.We have moved on since then,Although I still would love to know a few questions first from Jan.I am not trying to be rude these are only questions.Above in a previous post in this thread I had asked a few questions and they never really were answered...It seems like when anyone does ask a question they get ridiculed for their spelling or being over weight....I want to know:

1.If Jan has all this knowledge of the bf creatures then why go to a seasoned researcher like Mary,anyone in the bfro or the bro or any group you have possibly gone to?

2.Why speak about Erik like you did all that time about the type of person he was and the poison incident?

3.Why tell me and possibly others we couldn't go to the farm due to the research which was going on because it would mess up the months and months of research you were doing to get Fox and gang trusting you?

If this is true and if Jeff is a seasoned researcher I know he is he would or should also understand this and Erik if you are a seasoned researcher you should know this as well.This does not just solely pertain to the bf,it is with most wild animals you are trying to habitutate or gain trust from.I have no sources to show on this at this time but Jan has this knowledge and maybe she can shed some light on this fact.The reason I say this is Erik you really do not know what kinda research Mary or her family and friends are actually doing there as we really do not know what you do day to day.So when you say what has she done with her research well if you can habituate these creatures,which some people believe they can some people do not,You can learn so much from them,their actions and reactions.You can learn the concept of the social structures of their clans,if they can use tules or not wheathere they do have a language or not wheather they can speak ours or not,wheather they do show any PK abilities or not.And a host of other possibilities which not one person on planet earth actually know about(their are no real experts only theories,not fact)..So like I said I personally am not trying to fight with noone pluss I post on other sites as well not just here or the UBRG.I just would like sone real answers...I don't wanna pay $500 bucks or hear you or anyone say bonk or muahhhhh or anything these are serious questions and I would like a serious answers.....


And if Jan is correct about what she has told me.With regaurds to why she did not allow strangers on the farm who were not already doing research there.Then Isn't it possible that with since y'all are not actively doing research day in day out there at ss would not that be the same thing as what Jan was telling me.....???


Just a question.

brian

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Brian (or Will Duncan)

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The work being done with Jan was slow, and was not getting validation.

Mary is old slow, grumpy and not active now. She also has limited creds.

A old lady on welfare.

BUt back then, the social interaction between all parties was weird and anyone

not living nearby was cut of the loop.

The poison issue is resolved. I never put any in the blanket. Jan agrees.

Let's drop that one.


Most "researchers" who want to be called in and "consulted" are inept.


There were weirdo attitudes like saying "tracking Bigfoot in snow

would be regarded as hostile".

Thermal woke with a dead calf next to him. Why was this not recorded?

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Answers to Brian's questions

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I don't think we are fighting...this is an older post anyway.We have moved on since then,Although I still would love to know a few questions first from Jan.I am not trying to be rude these are only questions.Above in a previous post in this thread I had asked a few questions and they never really were answered...It seems like when anyone does ask a question they get ridiculed for their spelling or being over weight....I want to know:

1.If Jan has all this knowledge of the bf creatures then why go to a seasoned researcher like Mary,anyone in the bfro or the bro or any group you have possibly gone to?

(I already explained this before Brian. First my sister wished for me to report the incident to the BFRO of the time I ran into Fox's leg when I was seven years old. She hounded me until I reported it. She had posted a report to them two years before she convinced me to post to them. As for going to any of them or Mary I made the biggest mistake of my life. I should have gone to the correct people to begin with, with this information and we would not all be sitting on our butts still trying to debate whom is correct in their studies of these people and whom isn't and even if they actually exist.)

2.Why speak about Erik like you did all that time about the type of person he was and the poison incident?
(Because at that time and until here recently when something else came about I really did think that EB had placed the poison on the blanket. Now I have reason to believe someone else did this number and laid the blame on EB. Trust me this is being checked into and it may come a the biggest surprise of all when the culprit is announced. But let us say it was not EB's doings.)

3.Why tell me and possibly others we couldn't go to the farm due to the research which was going on because it would mess up the months and months of research you were doing to get Fox and gang trusting you?
(Once again I was under contract with William D. and held to my contract with him, that being that no other researchers were to come invading onto the property or into Fox and families lifestyles until we did further research.)

If this is true and if Jeff is a seasoned researcher I know he is he would or should also understand this and Erik if you are a seasoned researcher you should know this as well.This does not just solely pertain to the bf,it is with most wild animals you are trying to habitutate or gain trust from.I have no sources to show on this at this time but Jan has this knowledge and maybe she can shed some light on this fact.The reason I say this is Erik you really do not know what kinda research Mary or her family and friends are actually doing there as we really do not know what you do day to day.So when you say what has she done with her research well if you can habituate these creatures,which some people believe they can some people do not,You can learn so much from them,their actions and reactions.You can learn the concept of the social structures of their clans,if they can use tules or not wheathere they do have a language or not wheather they can speak ours or not,wheather they do show any PK abilities or not.And a host of other possibilities which not one person on planet earth actually know about(their are no real experts only theories,not fact)..So like I said I personally am not trying to fight with noone pluss I post on other sites as well not just here or the UBRG.I just would like sone real answers...I don't wanna pay $500 bucks or hear you or anyone say bonk or muahhhhh or anything these are serious questions and I would like a serious answers.....


And if Jan is correct about what she has told me.With regaurds to why she did not allow strangers on the farm who were not already doing research there.Then Isn't it possible that with since y'all are not actively doing research day in day out there at ss would not that be the same thing as what Jan was telling me.....???
(Again I was under contract with William D. I upheld that contract. Jeff has been to the farm on several occasions, this under the okay of Will and so were a few other researchers, but only with approval of Will first at the time of the contract.
This is very different from what research or the lack there of is being done at SS. I don't see Mary or anyone else under contract with the National Park service to keep other invasive peoples or whom have you out of a Forestry open to the public park.
So you all can squawk, preach, pray, curse, swear or whatever it is you are trying to celebrate, all you want, it will not keep the devil himself out of SS if he wants to go there.)


Just a question. (That was more like five questions not a question, but I answered all for your convenience. You may not like the answers, but this is the last time I will stoop to this stupidity. I'm not on trial here and you nor anyone else is the damn jury. And stop calling me Coy as I am no longer a **** fired Coy. It is Janice Carter.)
Yours,
Jan

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There are damn few "qualified researchers".

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and 10,000 who claim to be.

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You said it all!

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How true, how true.
Yours,
Jan

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The Price.....

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There is a "price" to become a qualified researcher too. However, it is a road that is not payed with "money!" It involves DEEP personal sacrifice. Not many people can make the journey.


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Expect : bankruptcy, divorce, loss of money

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and more.

These are the prices for KNOWLEDGE.

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You forgot a few.

by Janice Carter (no login)

frustration, aggravations, depression, loss of friends, loss of family, kicked in the teeth, kicked in the butt and your reputation headed straight for he]] in a hand basket. All mostly thanks to the bigfoot researcher want to be. Not to mention the head aches you get from trying to wade through all the nonsense others can dream up.
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Learn to tune out all who are not important,.

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remember most bfers are fools

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Re: Learn to tune out all who are not important,.

by montazumas revenge (no login)

erik what gives you the right to judge people that way..I know a bunch of people who have degrees who are also idiots...on crack or alcohol.who have the degrees and are working at walmart.so just because you went to some university does not mean you are the autharity on people or bf or life.You are ridiculed by every person in th eparanormal on the web and some of these people went to college as well.

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I have experience, education, some brains.

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While a few people with degrees can be nuts or weird, MOST ARE NOT.

GOING TO SCHOOL, IS BETTER THAN THE SCHOOL OF HARD KNOX.

The hard knocks come after you grad.

Go ahead and hate me, but educated people are mostly better than the non.

This will release a torrent of hate.

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Those that don't

by Janice Carter (no login)

know you, will hate you. Those that do know you, will respect you for the beautiful mind you are. Those that are uneducated will never know what to think.
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Re: I have experience, education, some brains.

by montazumas revenge (Login wookieehunter)

well actually after you go to school you still have to pay your dues as well.all school does.is get you ready for whatever subject you are majoring in.I would prefer the school of hard knocks anyday because that gets you ready for the real world not just the subject matter you are studying.pluss just because a person goes to school does not mean they are any better than any other person.They just are a bit more knowledgeable.I wanna ask a question for all...Is it better to be smart or wise..............Will come back with the answer after I get some posts on this....

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Most of you would FAIL the school of hard knocks.

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Most of you, from your posts, show you already failed.

Losers.

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Re: Answers to Brian's questions

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Hey no one is making you stoop Jan,And sorry about the coy thing I keep forgetting.You know you never told me a thing about will dunkin.And how could you be under contract with him when you contacted Mary for help.He was only helping as was Gene Macaully and some others.Will was there but You had Mary Investigating as I was informed.Or she was part of it all.I was not told of a contract.Pluss as you said You did allow Jeff to come there.I was told You did not want anyone there because it would mess the research up which y'all are trying to acomplish and strangers would make the bf on the farm skidish and it would create conflict so to speak where the trust y'all are trying to gain would actually deminish.This is what we all are talking about Jan You say one thing one min. and another when it suits you.Where is the proof you had a contract??Why would you have a contract with him when he was only helping Mary.You should have had the contract with Mary.I only say these things because it is like this.If you say one thing and then change your story then the credibility is chalanged as a whole.Point 1.When you wrote what you did to Mary you where scared of them then all of a sudden you are the authority of them.point 2.In the beginning while being scared of them you actually wanted someone to come there and kill them to get them off the land.

" My name is Janice Carter/ Coy. I am 37 years old as of the 18 of this month, white and of a middle class family. I do now own and run an antique business and consider myself quite logical in most matters. I don't spook easily and only know of two things I am really scared of: a person with a gun aimed in my direction and BIGFOOT. The last turns me to a downright chicken when I feel that feeling come over me."


"I am sorry but I just don't trust it to not kill me or someone else if you were to make it mad. I owned a pet shop in New York once and had a spider monkey in it for sale. It would try to tear you up if you smiled at it. It was very strong for its size and I can just imaging the damage a Bigfoot could do if it was riled up."

"Thank you for your time. And do contact me. I have more to tell and would like to help. But like I said you or someone else capture it. I will stand on the outside of the forest and wish you the best of luck. I am scared of it. I still get nightmares and cannot sleep well at night without a light on in the house and then that doesn't always help."

These are a few excerpts from the letter which you wrote to Mary which she had openly on her site Jan.As far as the killing them I was told this by a few people from the past and this I do not have in written form.

brian



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To whom it may concern and Brian

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Hey no one is making you stoop Jan,And sorry about the coy thing I keep forgetting.You know you never told me a thing about will dunkin.And how could you be under contract with him when you contacted Mary for help.He was only helping as was Gene Macaully and some others.Will was there but You had Mary Investigating as I was informed.Or she was part of it all.I was not told of a contract.Pluss as you said You did allow Jeff to come there.I was told You did not want anyone there because it would mess the research up which y'all are trying to acomplish and strangers would make the bf on the farm skidish and it would create conflict so to speak where the trust y'all are trying to gain would actually deminish.This is what we all are talking about Jan You say one thing one min. and another when it suits you.Where is the proof you had a contract??Why would you have a contract with him when he was only helping Mary.You should have had the contract with Mary.I only say these things because it is like this.If you say one thing and then change your story then the credibility is chalanged as a whole.Point 1.When you wrote what you did to Mary you where scared of them then all of a sudden you are the authority of them.point 2.In the beginning while being scared of them you actually wanted someone to come there and kill them to get them off the land.


[The name is Will Duncan. I and Mary were under contract with Will. I don't know how to post a picture of this Contract on here Brian. I will send a scan of it in an attachment to Erik and if he wishes to plaster it up here for you benefit he can do so with my blessings. This is Erik's message board and I can not and will not clutter it up with junk unless he approves whatever it is and places it up himself. Maybe you don't like those apples, but that is the way they fry up. You have your wires crossed about whom Will was helping. Even Erik know the facts about this. And Erik helped also with monies to help feed Fox and family at the time, even when I flat out refused to let him come visit the farm also because of the CONTRACT. If you sign a contract with someone and they are giving you money you don't sell out and do them dirty by going behind their back or against their wishes doing something they don't wish for you to do. Maybe you don't understand my way of thinking, but I try to keep my word at whatever it might cost me personally.]

" My name is Janice Carter/ Coy. I am 37 years old as of the 18 of this month, white and of a middle class family. I do now own and run an antique business and consider myself quite logical in most matters. I don't spook easily and only know of two things I am really scared of: a person with a gun aimed in my direction and BIGFOOT. The last turns me to a downright chicken when I feel that feeling come over me."

[First why did you not post the part about parts of this letter have been edited?]

"I am sorry but I just don't trust (it) to not kill me or someone else if you were to make (it) mad. I owned a pet shop in New York once and had a spider monkey in it for sale. It would try to tear you up if you smiled at it. It was very strong for its size and I can just imaging the damage a Bigfoot could do if it was riled up."

[Note the word is IT not them. I placed parentheses around the word in the paragraph for you to see. Did it ever occur to you I may have been talking about BLACKIE?]

"Thank you for your time. And do contact me. I have more to tell and would like to help. But like I said you or someone else capture [it}. I will stand on the outside of the forest and wish you the best of luck. I am scared of [it}. I still get nightmares and cannot sleep well at night without a light on in the house and then that doesn't always help."

[Please refer back to above statement.I again placed parentheses around the word IT for you. I can't under line this so I will paste it here. "I am scared of [it}." IT IT IT IT not Them, Fox, they, those things, two Its or any other more than one being. IT as in Blackie, because I don't care anything about him and I never will. If IT gets killed I don't care, good residence.]

These are a few excerpts from the letter which you wrote to Mary which she had openly on her site Jan.As far as the killing them I was told this by a few people from the past and this I do not have in written form.

[Why do you not copy and paste the entire letter over here? No don't bother. We don't need the message board cluttered up with all this. But stop beating a dead horse. Go bury the dead cows that came home and died from neglect, they're starting to stink.]
Jan

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Jan, I know you wrote this one.

by (Login terry.trainor)

Because it contains the common mistakes you make when you write, such as:

"For you information"

"You, like others assume to much"

"Not hers or anyone else!"

None of these errors would be caught by a spell check program.

And no one thinks less of you for them, but people get upset when something is posted CLAIMING to be from you when it is obviously NOT written by you.
But if you dictate to your secretary Lawrence in the manner that Jeff describes, telling him to write it up and post it to a COMMITTEES forum which he is not to have access to, that is a serious breach of confidentiality.
But that is a moot point, because it was NOT the reason you were removed from the UBRG, as you well know from the letter of explanation I sent you at the time.



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And there is no syntax checker yet!!

But I can't spell at times I am over weight I have alot of things wrong as do others and neither Terry nor I are fighting with any of y'all we are just discussing various points and facts....And I oersonally would love to hear any bf reports!!

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I never got a letter

by Janice Carter (no login)

of exclamation, all I got was booted. But I'm glad of it. I'm sick and tired of being dictated to, lied about and having people I happen to trust lied about to make up excuses for you all to boot them out of you little snooty comic strip group. Most members of which do not have enough sense to find their way out of a brown paper bag with both ends opened with a map detailing how to do so. I'm not talking about Nathan here either, Nathan has always conducted himself like the best of gentlemen. You all need to take lessons from him.
Jan

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Yes they do have spell check.We do all make mistakes with spelling words.but even with spell check it is kinda hard for the synatx of a post to be one way one min. and another the next.You can forensically tell the difference between peoples writings thru different scientifically sound methods here is a link to explain what I am talking about.

www.business-english.ch/downloads/Malcolm%20Coulthard/Forensic.applications.pdf

brian

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They may be all from her, BUT

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some of them have been edited for spelling and composition, Jeff. Jan is a likeable person indeed, but the girl cannot put together three sentences without butchering the English language, and even the use of a spell checker does not correct for accidental homonym usage.

Did Mary put EVERY WORD Jan ever spoke into '50 years'?
Of course not.
Did Mary put stuff into '50 years' that Jan did NOT SAY?
Nope.

Ergo, Jan can make ADDITIONS to the work, but she cannot actually make CORRECTIONS to it without admitting that she gave false information in the first place.

As for Mary, the only fault this dear lady has is placing trust in people who are untrustworthy.

Terry

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Re: They may be all from her, BUT

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The best correction she could make is removing the useless and fraudulent dictionary.



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Jeff-Jan-Brian-Terry-etc.

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Please take any issue that requires more than 2 posts a day here, over to
Jan's new message board.

Thanks, and Happy New Year.

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I am confused!

by (Login terry.trainor)

You always positively brag about the number of hits this group receives, and now you are inviting folks to go elsewhere if there is any issue that has more than two posts on it???

What gives?




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Re: I am confused!

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I don't understand either......hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Janice's message board

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what's the addy?

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Our websites addie

by Janice Carter (no login)

Please post this once again Erik. What a mess these people are at times. Thank you ever so much.
Yours,
Jan

Websites URL addie: http://www.bigfootreferenceguide.com

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Well they will not get away with

by Janice Carter (no login)

this sort of nonsense on my website. It is called a little button of approve or not approved postings. It also requires you join the forum in order to post. I do thank you Erik for posting our link here. We are getting a lot of guest viewers. We have several outstanding members that do post and stick to the subject or research at hand, not trying to rehash old news.
Yours,
Jan

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What nonsense?

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Like posting Mary's public statement concerning her separating herself from you and your claims?

Like asking you about contradictory statements you make here and everywhere?

Yes indeed - I am QUITE sure no such 'nonsense' would be allowed on your forum!

You have to keep it reflecting a positive image of you, or no one will take part in the 'opportunity' to pay for your answers to their questions when it becomes a 'fee for service' site, as you tried to do with the UBRG site -

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Still waiting for clarification of this -

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Since EVERY post here has more than two replies, and MOST of them are the same day, this appears to be an invitation for us to leave your board.

If that is your desire, just say so and I will be happy to do so, albeit without going to Jan's board (Nermanuh Corporation) which is soon to become a FEE FOR USE group!!!



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DARWIN AWARDS IN SAN FRANCISCO

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OPEN UP THE DARWIN AWARDS. On xmas day, three morons went to the zoo, and two apparently linked arms with the third, who stood between the fence and the actual edge of the tiger pit, and threw down pine cones and sticks to harass the tiger. The tiger, fully justified, leaped up and grabbed onto the third moron, and the other two pulled up both tiger and the third moron. The tiger then killed the teasing idiot, and scratched the other two, who retreated 300 yards it is said. However, the tiger followed the blood trail and was about to kill the other two morons, when police shot the tiger with their pistols. A total waste of a good tiger’s life.

The weeping parents were shown on tv . I weep for the tiger. There is a basic rule in zoos -

‘ DON’T MESS WITH TIGERS! ‘

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Ultimate Award

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AND THE WINNER: FROM G-E-R-M-A-N-Y is....
Overzealous zookeeper Friedrich Riesfeldt (Paderborn, Germany) fed his constipated elephant Stefan 22 doses of animal laxative and more than a bushel of berries, figs and prunes before the plugged-up pachyderm finally let it fly, and suffocated the keeper under 200 pounds of poop!

Investigators say ill-fated Friedrich, 46, was attempting to give the ailing elephant an olive oil enema when the relieved beast unloaded on him. "The sheer force of the elephant's unexpected defecation knocked Mr. Riesfeldt to the ground, where he struck his head on a rock and lay unconscious as the elephant continued to evacuate his bowels on top of him" said flabbergasted Paderborn police detective Erik Dern. "With no one there to help him, he lay under all that dung for at least an hour before a watchman came along, and during that time he
passed away.


'''Like the two people who skinny-dipped in a large septic tank..

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ha-ha chief I created a new word for wikipedia

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Bonkinator......now your being called that....thats KOol!!!!

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"your" .................................

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Bonk!

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CZ point no. 5

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put out a salt lick with every camera trap.

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Pure white salt block

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lick or table salt. Not cattle mineral salt. It does work and they do like salt.
Yours,
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try both

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To all crypto researchers - armchair or field

by brian (Login wookieehunter)

I wanted to say something.....I know we all have our own beliefs.Some believe in flesh and blood totally some believe they are para....some believe the are flesh and blood woth para abilities.....some are prokil some are non kill...some believe UFO related some do not...most everyone believes in one way or another.Myself as well as the few believe we will keep and open mind about all because noone really knows what these creatures really are are the extent of their capabilities.I wish we all could work together in this field...My wish is for us all to come together as one in unison and stop saying no to all posibilities....we need to keep our minds hearts and feelings out of it actually and rely solely on facts.And just because our facts do not mesh with jo blows or sallys then we need to learn more and see is their are any reports which match with theirs....Please everyone copy and paste this to every website you want to.This way if we all keep an open line we will be able to possibly one day really break through and learn what these awesome beings are...brian


Posted on Dec 25, 2007, 1:10 PM
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Joe Blow's opinion is not worth much.

by (Premier Login beckjord)
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I vote with the Indian Peoples' life-long experiences.
Bigfoot is not a normal zoological being.

Joe Blow and his pals just do-not-do-actual-research.

As for "working together" -- all the Joe Blows want to be first to be famous
and maybe rich, so they will not share. To them, this is a treasure-hunt.

Got it?

Brian -- wake up.

eb

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Posted on Dec 25, 2007, 4:12 PM
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A noble idea -

by (Login terry.trainor)

But in the real world, it will not work.
For my part, I care nothing for fame -
BUT -
to me, killing a bigfoot to prove they exist so we can get them protected makes as much sense as screwing for virginity; it is simply not logical.

Due to this, I would absolutely NEVER share any information I had with anyone that would use it to help them kill one.

Posted on Dec 26, 2007, 6:35 AM
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Re: A noble idea -

by brian (Login wookieehunter)

I do not blame you terry....Their are other ways to learn about them.Jane goodal and diane fossey did not have to kill a chinp or ape to get the knowledge they did.....Time in time out eb always says para not real but take this into consideration.Does paras have to eat or poop or have babys or have hair and dna etc.If you can see it and touch it and feed it and gather samples from it it is real not para.only para abilities.......more people have proof of non para than with para abilities than para but non flesh and blood.If it has dna it has flesh and it has blood.........Plus eb has stated they wont let you take pics oor movies of them but they have those things out there as well.....eb has taken pics as well so he has misstated his own statement