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Deseronto approved

April 12 2012 at 12:23 AM
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GS  (Login Gazettesports)
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Pirates twitter feed reporting Deseronto club will join the Empire in 2012-13...

 
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Anonymous
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Re: Deseronto approved

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April 12 2012, 11:42 AM 

I am looking forward to another team. Five teams just gets repetitive. The talent is there, just need to work at attracting them.

 
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April 13 2012, 12:33 PM 

Congrats Deseronto this is very exciting for the league and fans

 
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Anonymous
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April 14 2012, 9:18 AM 

good news, but from my understanding (correct me if im wrong), there still needs to be approval from OHA?

 
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Adam Bull
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April 14 2012, 9:49 AM 

OHA has stated on a few occasions that another team is needed in the empire so the chances of them not Approving Deseronto are very slim as there is not many teams knocking on our door to join and Deseronto is an established team so its not like they are coming into this blind.

But yes it requires the approval of the OHA

 
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Anonymous
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April 21 2012, 5:06 PM 

from reading recent articles in the Kingston Whig Standard, it seems Napanee and Deseronto have come to an agreement they will not recruit players or get sponsors from each others area. Would this mean John Sweet`s rights would be traded to Deseronto?

 
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April 21 2012, 5:18 PM 

I wondered how long it would take before this question was asked.

 
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Anonymous
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April 21 2012, 9:47 PM 

I understand that John Sweet was released by Napanee when he went back to the Storm. I have no idea if he is eligeble to play in the league next season.

 
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April 21 2012, 10:01 PM 

Well I am certainly no expert when it comes to the rules and such so I very well might be wrong, but the way I understand is as long as the player is signed in the previous year, they are allowed to play in the overage year? or is that voided once the player quits/released?


 
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April 21 2012, 10:25 PM 

i think they have to be carded at the dec 1 cutdown and remain carded for the remainder of season with the same team to play as an overager.

 
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Adam Bull
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April 21 2012, 10:33 PM 

The player would have to be carded prior to the dec cutdown and remain carded to the end of the season since sweet was not on a napanee card after dec cutdown he wouldn't be eligible to play under OHA rules

 
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Anonymous
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April 21 2012, 10:51 PM 

This would mean that Deseronto will not be allowed to have any overages since they were not in the league last year. This would make it tough for them in there first year.

 
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Anonymous
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April 21 2012, 11:01 PM 

oh well, rules are rules, just thankful they are finally out of the GMHL, unfortunately for Sweet, looks like he will have to stay there

 
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Estock
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Rules?

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April 22 2012, 8:03 AM 

The Clarington Eagles had overaged players this season despite the fact it was their first year in Junior C.

 
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Adam Bull
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April 22 2012, 4:23 PM 

Without going back and reading my emails if I'm not mistaken Deseronto is allowed overagers but not including sweet as he was registered with the raiders last season prior to defecting back to Deseronto

 
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April 22 2012, 7:05 PM 

I must admit to not knowing an awful lot about hockey so any info/advice would be greatly appreciated. I noticed a comment on a previous message re "leaving the GMHL thankfully". The reason this caught my attention is that my son has recently been approached by a team from the GMHL with a view to playing for them next season. Therefore, your comment made me wonder if we should be concerned at all if he should decide to play in this league? We are fairly new to junior hockey and don't really know how the whole league system works etc.

 
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Anonymous
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April 22 2012, 9:38 PM 

The GMHL has some good things going on but for the most part I would say stay away. The level of play is certainly not at a Jr.A level. I have taken in Deseronto games in the GMHL, Napanee games in the empire and Wellington games in the OJHL and the level of play is substantially different. There are maybe two teams in the GMHL that could survive in the OJHL and they are: South Muskoka, Sturgeon Falls. The GMHL has minimal high end talent, then has a handful of teams who compete at a Jr.C level and then has the bottom team who are no more skilled then your juvenile hockey teams. Deseronto would not compete in the OJHL, that is why I see a move to Jr.C ideal and from where I see it, the skill level between empire b and the GMHL are more comparable. You will likely end up paying far to much for your son to play hockey and he will not likely get good exposure to NCAA if that is the route he is looking to go. My advice, try out for an OJHL team first, if that fails then you could make the investment in the GMHL, but at the rate the league actually advances kids to the next level, it is not worth the money.

Heres a comparison to consider

Temiscaming played in the NOJHL in 2010/2011 (some consider this a weak Jr.A league as well)

They had a 18 wins and 29 losses

Temiscaming joins the GMHL this season and has a record of 38 wins and 3 losses

from a players perspective....

John Sweet had 13 points in 11 games for Napanee this year which is 1.18 points per game (Jr.C)
John Sweet had 87 points in 31 games for Deseronto this year which is 2.8 points per game (Jr.A)

If your son is going to go anywhere in the GMHL, I would recommend South Muskoka. They run a good program and always have a sucessful team. From what I hear, they are one of the cheaper teams too.

 
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Thanks

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April 23 2012, 9:12 AM 

Thank you for the info, it certainly helps clarify a few things. Yes you're right it is expensive around $8000 including billets, not sure why you have to pay??? Anyway thanks again it has certainly given us something to think about.

 
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April 23 2012, 11:56 AM 

You have to pay because that's how the GMHL operates. It's part cash grab, part ponzi scheme.
Sure, the league attracts some good players, even a handful of decent ones that move on to the OHL or NCAA. And those guys likely don't pay a dime.
The stock of the league is built with two kinds of players:
1) Players that want to play "Jr. A" hockey even though the GMHL is far from that level. I guess if you pay enough money you can call yourself a Junior A hockey player.
2)Players with parents like yourself who aren't sure what they are getting into....
$8,000 a season? Run away as fast as you can. True Jr. A players are paying a $750 registration fee (some teams are paying this on the players behalf and getting all the gear including sticks.

 
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April 23 2012, 3:27 PM 

Actually with the contraction of the OJHL, and I can see the CCHL lose a couple of teams, this will make the Junior C level get better. Anyone who has seen the level of play of the Empire league from 3 to 4 years ago to now will agree, which will mean players who are on the bubble with a Junior A team would do better to play at the Junior C level and get the ice time rather than sitting on the bench all season.
The level of Junior C in the OHA is equivalent or better than the Junior B level in ODHA, so be careful of the designation.
I can see a day when NCAA D3 and ACHA D1 schools will be scouting Junior C for that player that comes in under the radar. To any parent, consider ACHA D1 schools, some those hockey programs are on par with many NCAA D3 programs. But when considering a school make sure they have an academic program that will fit your kid, they have to be ready for life after hockey.

 
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