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what the f*** how many people replying are from hawaii I have locked hand brake and slide up on SR20's on are track all the time have dori the entire track without an e brake once . and if you don't think ff can drift then come an ask me for a ride.I have been drifing for six years in a civic yes a civic ask any body from drift session can tell you guys ask david the guy who set up these forms I can drift fr ff awd but I love my civic. just cause you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done