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Writing gkh.files to floppies?

September 13 2006 at 10:07 AM
mango  (no login)

 
Well I've tried about every technique with EPS disk and Ensoniq disk tools with no luck. Do I specifically need double density disks (I'm using high density pc floppies). They only format under 6 in EPSDisk - no other setting works, and always gets an error when copying it to the floppy. Arrgh!!!!

 
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Re: Writing gkh.files to floppies?

September 13 2006, 5:12 PM 

With the ASR-10 you MUST use DOUBLE SIDED / DOUBLE SENSITY floppies. Period.

 
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Re: Writing gkh.files to floppies?

September 13 2006, 5:14 PM 

oops! I meant DOUBLE SIDED / DOUBLE DENSITY floppies. If you used double sided / double sensity disks, you won't have much luck... :P

 
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Mango
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Double Density disks are obsolete!

September 14 2006, 12:24 AM 

Well I was wished luck by all the computer stores I called about Double Density disks, don't think I'll find any soon. ASR-10 seems to format high density disks fine and my Operating system seems to load fine from one. The GKH files just won't copy to them, I'm asking beause I'm trying to extract the Waveboy images to floppies, do I have any alternatives?

 
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HD Disks OK!

September 14 2006, 2:17 AM 

You can use HIGH DENSITY Disks with the ASR-10. Read the Manual.

In fact using HD Disks is best as you get 1600kb of Data on a Disk and only 800kb on a DD. you can use DD Disks if you want but why bother unless they have some old sounds from the eps/16+...

EPS/16+ only use DD.

Try formatting the disks in the ASR-10 then extraxting the files.

Mango - do you have the Manuals for the Waveboy Disks?


cheers

 
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Re: HD Disks OK!

September 14 2006, 7:20 AM 

Ok....I feel stupid. I myself use double sided HIGH density disks. My bad. I just use SCSI now, so I was off on my floppy info. I'm sorry.

-MrChipps

 
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Mango
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Re: HD Disks OK!

September 14 2006, 9:16 AM 

Sorry I don't have a manual, even tried formatting my old ensoniq disks and writing them onto there. EPSDisk will only format on type 6 - nothing else works. Ensoniq disk tools won't even find my gkh files, that was pretty much useless. My last resort is to extract them individually from the image - I can do that for the instrument (efe) files but does anyone know what the extension for Ensoniq fx files are?

 
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Re: HD Disks OK!

September 14 2006, 12:07 PM 

the effects are still classed as either EFE or EFA

efe = eps/16+

efa = asr10


Like i said try formatting your disks on the ASR10 itself and then extract the files.

here's the asr10 manual;

http://www.thesoniq.com/Manual/ASR10_manual.zip

 
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Mango
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Re: HD Disks OK!

September 14 2006, 10:30 PM 

Already tried to format them on the ASR (the first step I tried), but EPS disk keeps getting an invalid block number and rescans it again. Elsewhere on the forum it mentions formatting on either the ASR or EPS disk (one of them should work) but no luck with either. But thanks for the info on the extension, I will try that one now.
Cheers

 
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Mango
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Re: HD Disks OK!

September 15 2006, 12:54 AM 

Well extracted them individually, and tried copying them to floppy. Only one efe transferred to the disk and got a bad device id when trying them on the ASR. Converted them all to an img file then tried copying them to a floppy, same old story - invalid block number, auto scanning disk, Error 9 writing destination volume.... Spent a week on this and don't think I'll be wasting my time with Waveboy anymore, I'm sure I could do more with my Triton or V-synth. Damn dinsoaurs.

 
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Re: HD Disks OK!

September 15 2006, 1:19 AM 

are you using Win98 ?


 
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Mango
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Re: HD Disks OK!

September 15 2006, 1:31 AM 

No I only have xp on every computer(6). I've lent a laptop to a friend with WinME, maybe I'll give that a go when I can get it off him. Although I'm assuming Win98 would be my best bet (for Ensoniq disk tools at least).
I appreciate everyones help thanks.

 
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Win98 Only.

September 15 2006, 6:22 AM 

you can ONLY use Win98 with EPSDisk.

or you can use a win98 boot disk from this link;

http://www.chickensys.com/bin/win98bootdisk.zip

but your best bet is putting win98 on one of those 6 PC's. XP will always fail. thats why the samples/effects sound like shit or dont work;)




i dont know about disk tools as i dont have it...

 
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This is probably your fix...

September 15 2006, 7:34 AM 

I don't know what operating system you're using on your computer, but I'm using WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL. Since these little DOS programs were written back in the stone age, they DO NOT work properly under todays modern PC operating systems. In order for me to get my copys of EPS DISK and EDE (ensoniq disk extractor) to work properly, I had to create a DOS boot disk and use the programs in a PURE DOS environment. They WILL NOT work properly in a DOS WINDOW through a modern PC operating system such as Windows XP.

I don't know how much you know about computer, so I'll walk you through with these steps to make sure it works for you.

Open your Windows Explorer and RIGHT CLICK on your A: drive. Choose to format a disk. After your format a fresh disk, RIGHT CLICK on your A: drive again and choose to create a boot disk. Ok...Now you have a DOS boot disk which will allow you to use your ancient ensoniq DOS programs.

Place the boot disk in your A: drive and reboot your PC. Now, your PC has to be set to try and boot from the A: drive before it boots from your Hard Drive. Some people disable this and have their computer go straight to the HD. If it just boots right into your windows OS, you need to reboot again and follow these steps:

Right as your PC starts booting up, keep tapping the DELETE key (DEL). This will open a menu where you can change the boot sequence of your PC. Each PC is different when it comes to these menus that you'll see. The option your looking for is BOOT SEQUENCE. It's probably NOT gonna be on the main menu you see, but in a SUB MENU under one of the main menu options. When you find it, it will list 1st boot device, 2nd boot device and so on. Make sure the 1st boot device is set to floppy, and the second is set to hard drive. This way, the computer will check the A: drive for a boot disk first, and use it if there is one in the drive. If there is no disk in the drive, it will use your 2nd boot device (your HD) and boot into your windows OS. DO NOT make any other changes within these menus if you don't know what you're doing! You could really mess things up. Ok, now press the ESC key to back out of the menus until your back at the MAIN MENU. Now choose the option to EXIT AND SAVE CHANGES. You should be good to go.

This should be the END ALL of your problems.....If you're still having trouble, E-mail me for more help.

mikechipps@hotmail.com

-Mr.Chipps

 
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Mango
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Re: Win98 Only.

September 15 2006, 10:40 PM 

Ok thanks guys, I've previously rebooted in ms dos mode with this procedure.
Problem is it only recognizes the floppy drive and the c: drive cannot be accessed (tried every other letter as well) and invalid drive specification which is a problem cos the gkh files are on the hard drive. I've googled it and can't find any answers.

 
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This Will Fix Your Problem (again...)

September 15 2006, 11:32 PM 

Your C DRIVE must be formatted to use the NTFS file system. That's why DOS won't recognize your C DRIVE. Go into Windows, open WINDOWS EXPLORER, click on my computer, then RIGHT CLICK on your C DRIVE, then click on properties. On that page I'll bet my life it says it's using the NTFS file system.

To fix your problem, you'll have to create a partition on your C DRIVE, but it MUST be formatted in the FAT32 format. That way DOS can recognize the drive.

My C DRIVE has 2 partitions. The first one (drive C) is formatted using the NTFS file system. My second partition (drive D) is formatted using FAT32. When I'm in DOS and I go to access my C DRIVE, it's actually my D DRIVE, because that's the one that DOS recognizes.

When you go to create your new partition, it should ask you what file system to format it to. NTFS or FAT32.

Make this last change and you should be in the clear.

-MrChipps

 
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Mango
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EPSdisk working

September 16 2006, 4:15 AM 

Thanks got EPSdisk working now, but still no success with the images. ASR crashes when loading the sounds/fx. Have sent you an email.

 
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anode
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Re: EPSdisk working

September 16 2006, 4:22 AM 

i guess you have to run EPSDisk off floppy with the DOS Boot method?


 
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Mango
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Re: EPSdisk working

September 16 2006, 5:15 AM 

Yep used the Win98 boot disk. Everything was fine from EPSdisk standpoint, could format any type of disk (1-8). Formatted on 3 (Standard ASR) but fx when loaded on the ASR-10 either freezes the machine after completing loading or gives a message of Effects Download Failed.

 
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Hmmm....

September 16 2006, 7:34 AM 

Well, it sounds like the actual image file you're using must be bad at this point. I have to run to work now so I won't be able to try it myself until later tonight. I'll let you know if I get it working.

-MrChipps

 
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(Login LouSega)

*.gkh to floppy

September 17 2006, 1:36 PM 

That's what I did:
I formatted a double density diskette(the only one I had left...) with EDE (ensoniq disk extractor) as an Eps blank disk.
Then I used the command copy in epsdisk to write the *.gkh on the disk.
This is the only way which worked for me.

P.S.
If you don't have a double density diskette you can cover the hole on the upper left on a hd disk with some tape. It works fine but someone says that doing this thing could damage the disk, so it's better saving the data on a scsi device after you've loaded it into the sampler.

 
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