I've tried and can't seem to figure out how to spread samples across all of the keys. I think it has somethig to do with parameters? Can anyone help me with this?
Is it a sound you sampled, or a ready made sample which is only on one key or something?
If you sample a sound yourself, it will say "Press root key" when you've sampled it. If it's the first sample, it will play across the whole board. If you then do another sample an octave up, the ASR automatically makes the first sample go half way, an the second the other half. That's called multisampling, it does all the splitting for you basically.
To change a ready made sample, you select the sample in the Edit menu, then go into Edit>Pitch and scroll to the "WS Range" screen. If the sample only plays on C5, it should say "WS RANGE LO-C5 HI-C5". All you do to change that is put the cursor under the parameter you want to change, and press the key you want to put there. So if you want your sample to play from C4 to C5, you'd put the cursor under LO, and press C4. The cursor jumps to the HI parameter, so you press C5. The screen would say "WS RANGE LO-C4 HI-C5". So if you play lower than C4 or higher than C5, that sample doesn't play. If you wanted to make it play across the whole board, you do the same but this time press the lowest key on the board for LO and the highest key for high, so it says "WS RANGE LO-C2 HI-C7". Then change the screen immediately after, BEFORE you try it out by playing the board, or you end up messing up the HI key, can kinda screw things up if you don't realize you've done it!
See I tried doing what you told me and I still seem to have problems. When I sample from a record I put the sample into my first sound bank. Then I go to use this sample and it does spread across the keyboard. But what happens is that every key I touch has a different pitch. So when I go to left of where I placed the original sample the pitch just gets a lot lower. Then when I go the right it's very high pitch like chipmunck music. Every key is the same sample but in different pitches. The sample is not spread across all of the keys.
Any help with teaching me how to spread the original sample across all the keys? I want to take a 20 second sample and have it spread out throughout all of the 61 keys. I can do this very easy with MV 8800 but the reason I purchased the asr 10 was for its sound and for this function so I can play around with the different samples and record it directly into my MV.
When I spread it on my MV I can only play around with 16 pads at once, the rest of the sample will go to the next 16 pads. The beauty of the ASR is you can play around with all 61 keys at once, much better than 16 pads at once.
Any help would greatly be appreciated this has been killing me for quite soe time...
Why don't you download the Manual and read it like everyone else. Being lazy about it is just a big mistake.
When i first started using the ASR the Manual was a big saver.
It's just a shame asking us these silly questions here.
Curvid don't waste your time on the behalf of laziness of others.
I've read the manuel numerous times. It's like all those history books I read in school really never was able to comprehend anything. I'm sorry I asked. I was just trying for some help..
What Corvis explained I thought I did but when it spreads across the keys it spreads the same sample but the pitches are all different, it doesn't spread a 20 second sample across all the keys but just spreads the one sample....????
What Curvid explained is exactly what you should do. It is very simple and there is no other better way to explain it.
The manual is one of the best and easy to read manuals ever made.
If you have trouble with reading (Many people have all kind of reading disorders) and prefer listening or seeing you can check Youtube, there are several videos (the guy with the Hawaiian shirt from covert) that give great lessons.
The best thing you can do is to order the "Covert Video" from Chicken systems
Plus 1 to the covert video DVD idea, it's some seriously good stuff. You'll be so well equipped by the end, and it's a good laugh too. The manual is pretty important though, it helps to read it cover to cover before and after the video course, and you'll probably be referring to it now and again forever, the ASR is so deep.
Not like old Roland manuals... utter shit they used to be. The one for the W-30 was a joke, it explained everything so poorly, from a technical point of view only, hardly ever putting anything in a remotely musical context.
I agree with what corvid originally posted. I did it exactly they way he said to do it. What I don't understand and what my problem is that when I spread the sample over the board it it spread but in different pitches. Is it is supposed to be spread across the board in different pitches?
What my impression was of spreading it across the board is that I could take my sample in bank 1 and it would play an entire 20-30 second across the entire board.
So when I hit the first couple keys it would be the first 1-4 seconds of that sample. If I go to the end of the keyboard it would be the last 27-30 seconds of the sample. Am I wrong assuming this?
But when I spread it across the board, every key is the same 30 second long sample, the first keys sound like it is chopped and screwed very deep slowed down pitch. The high keys are very fast pitched sounding samples of that oroginal sample.
What you get is the normal thing.
If you wish to have it spread like your description you need to chop it yourself, and rearrange it on the keyboard, and peach it to whatever you want. This is basic stuff and you should follow my advice:
GO LEARN TO USE THE ASR!!!
use the manual, use Youtube,use the Video,
try and search this forum for previous answers on this subject
Don't expect us to give you a whole course now.
The ASR is doing something called multisampling, it assumes that you want to sample a synth or something, not chop samples up. What you need to do is copy your one sample a number of times (with or without the data depending in sample size), then map those out. Then you'd change the start/end point of each sample as needed.
Honestly mate, figuring the ASR-10 out without touching the manual is an exceptionally daunting task (if it doesn't seem like it now, it will in a few months). If you're starting from scratch, it WILL take a good month for you to find your way around without the video course, and a good 4+ months before your confident with every single feature. I hit the ASR-10 hard with the manual, and only got the DVD after a few months and I learned SO much, dispute thinking I was pretty confident with the ASR. There's quite simply no other way to learn other than watching the video and hitting the manual. By all means ask if you've racked your brains, the ASR and the manual, but the really simple stuff needs to be learned well. Can't overstate the DVD enough, if you watch it very carefully and follow along on your ASR with old Rick, you'll knock a month of the learning process in a mere 6 hours. Plus you'll know all the shortcuts and get real speedy at doing everything.
Sounds cheesy, but it works. Hell, it's what every other sensible musician/producer did. I know of one German musician who actually used one of the most basic ASR-10 sounds (the slightly naff ones on the floppys) in a 2009 album after he watched the DVD (after at least 18 years using an ASR). The only reason I could tell was because Rick tells you on the DVD to "unlock" a special effect routing on that instrument, which sounds stunning.
Hey i appreciate your answers. Your answers Corvid have been especially very decriptive. I guess I assumed it would pretty much chop itself across keys like it does on my MV8800.
I wasn't aware you have to copy the wave forms and put them onto every key. I think I may invest in the DVD seems like it would help me amount immensly.
chop samples for each key:
command wave
copy wave
same instrument same layer
edit pitch
ws beg and end change key
change root pitch key
move up one
edit sample start (adjust start end points)
The magic is this: By copying the sample you are not taking up much EXTRA memory. You are basically getting the save wavesample but you can change parameters, adjust start and end points, etc. I forget the maximum wavesamples you can put on each layer.
Always make sure you have the correct layer and wavesample highlighted before you go editing parameters. click edit - amp to check this.