This discussion group is for the General Managers (and other interested parties) of the Net Surfer's Hockey League to share information that may or may not be important to the day-to-day activities of the league. You decide!
Dear Network54 Community Member,
First, let me say "I'm sorry." Clinton couldn't do it but I can. Because I mean it. Our server was down for several hours, and while it is running (faster) now, some older messages will not show until our data recovery efforts are complete. So if your login, forum, chatroom, or group is missing, we are working to hard have them restored. Please accept our sincerest appologies. It has been a real education in Murphy's Law.
We don't know when Murphy got started, but it was before we woke up Tuesday morning. Apparently Murphy started sometime on Monday, causing some overheating in our main server and fried one of the processors in the machine. But the machine, a real trooper, died and restarted itself without using the extra crispy Pentium. We noticed the site was slow, but couldn't figure out why. By Tuesday, it was dead.
Chris received the page, couldn't log in, and so headed down to Orange County to see the server face to face. He called me with the news: the server was smoking. Not the 'Pentium II with stangely colored lab coats' kind of smoking in the TV commercials. Real smoke. Not a lot, but enough by this point to have fried all the new components we installed. I guess I really wasn't motivated to go to the gym anyway....
Trying everything we could think of to get the network up and running, we used our backup server to take over for the main server. But there was one problem. That server had a backup from Oct 8. The main server had the live database as well as a continuous backup written to a separate disk. We figured one of disks had to be OK, so we hooked them up to the backup server and was ready to go.
Never hook up a SCSI disk to a motherboard with a built in SCSI adapter right after the drive came out of a smoking box. It will give you two smoking boxes.
So we enlisted the help of local data recovery experts, and Chris went to drive the disks over there. Of course you know the car wouldn't start, and I was just started on my hour and a half drive down by this point.
A couple of weeks ago we were real worried that our servers might fall in an earthquake. Taiwan had one. Mexico had one. Surely Los Angeles would soon follow. So we bought several cases for use in a rack system so our servers would not fall. Great idea, however the 7.0 eathquake hit this past weekend before we could install them. But we have them now!
In fact, our servers are installed in a pretty sturdy setup. But it took several trips to Frys Electronics paying more than online buying veterans are used to, in order to remake the insides of our servers. And it took time reinstalling the operating systems, services, and custom code. And new backup procedures.
So right now, 7:00am on Wednesday I think, the servers are up with new hardware running much faster than before. And by Friday we hope to have the missing messages installed. And we are now ready - come earthquake, fire, or high water.
Update: Friday, Oct. 22 1999: So far, we have yet to recover the missing messages. We are expecting an update from the data recovery experts on Monday or Tuesday. Sorry for the delay. Sincerely,
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I think the Mighty Muffs will somehow pull out a Sacred Handgrenade of Antioch, and smite any rabbits that try to lay claim to having bigger teeth than Commissioner Gordon, in the end.
It will be close - but no "RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!" will be heard being issued from Charles' Woods.
Posted on Oct 22, 1999, 2:02 PM from IP address 210.243.183.7
Anybody else having troubles getting through to Ace??
by Psycho Sedsey (no login)
I have been sending Gord e-mails regarding line changes and such, but none have had any effect for over a week...Gord, if you read this, can you send me a message??
Posted on Oct 7, 1999, 7:08 PM from IP address 24.113.17.166
I clipped this from a recent edition of Ping Tung News:
Spirit 0 @ Lizards 3
Oct 5 1999, by Demi Moore
"The convincing win also resulted in solidifying The Lizards Official Statistician Mr. Dressup's somewhat criticized claims in a recent NSHL Power Rankings he created for League Offices.
Since Dressup's predictions that "Time will reveal the smoke and mirrors associated with this seance!" his analysis seems about as accurate as any could EVER BE! Since White River's 7-0-3 start (when Dressup ranked them), The Spirit have a SUB .500 RECORD!, going 14 wins and 15 LOSSES!
Hopefully, the developments will finally have the naysayers reeling in their criticism of Dressup, and appologizing for their all too disrespectful attitude towards one of The NSHL's most highly rated and respected statisticians in the game today!"
Thanks, Demi.
Posted on Oct 5, 1999, 1:46 PM from IP address 210.243.182.87
In light of the news sent out to the mailing list by Commish Payne this morning, I would like to take this opportunity to open the floor to discussion on his offer: "If I do eliminate Friday games, I would consider
playing games on Saturday instead, if there was a huge demand to do so."
Of course it is to be pointed out that the Commishes' convenience in his new undertaking is of utmost importance in this matter, but if it is feasible I would like to see 5 game days a week continue.
A suggestion: Roster and Line submission deadlines are set for late Friday or some such, to give everybody a chance to evaluate their position without haste, and make changes accordingly, while not hampering or penalizing those that will be away over a given weekend. Then, for the convenience of our honoured Commish, the games could be played at any time on Saturday or Sunday, flexible to Ace's time demands and energy levels. This a system under which I see a "win-win" situation.
Any comments??
Posted on Sep 30, 1999, 8:25 PM from IP address 24.113.17.166
If Ace has the time, I would like to see 5 game days still. Or......what if on Thursdays, there were double the amount of games played??? I know that this can create confusion when players are injured but everyone has to play twice on one game day usually anyways. I like lots of games being played.
Posted on Sep 30, 1999, 9:41 PM from IP address 207.34.78.62
First off, good luck with the education Gord...lord knows you'll need it. :-)
Next, I would like o say I agree with the psychotic ones suggestion. Putthe dealine for line exntrie at something like midnight or something like that and then Gord can play games whenever he wants or can on saturday or sunday if time permits.
Posted on Oct 1, 1999, 11:30 AM from IP address 128.233.75.235
Again, keeping foremost in mind the convenience of Ace, I would prefer less games/more days rather than the reverse, but it's a good option if there is no alternative.
Posted on Oct 5, 1999, 3:43 AM from IP address 24.113.17.166
The NSHL daily routine is in for some changes in the immediate future,
as in, starting tomorrow.
First of all, I should tell you that there will be no games tomorrow.
Fridays in the future are in doubt, as well. What is the reason for
this you ask? Well, your commish is returning to school starting tomorrow.
I'm going to leave the deadline of noon the same for now, until I determine
just how things are going to go next week, when I will be in class every day
from 8:00 am until 4:00 or 5:00. I'm thinking that sometimes I will be
able to play the games during the day at some point, and other days I won't
play them until I get home. It's too hard to say right now for sure.
Rest assured the games will get played sometime! You may not be able to count
on getting the results every afternoon, however.
I may have to eliminate Friday games, if I am unable to get it done at
school, as I still have to go to work every Friday night, so I wouldn't
have time between school and work. Was that a run-on sentence? Anyway,
as I get more acclimatized to the school situation, I'll have a better idea
as to how I will proceed. If I do eliminate Friday games, I would consider
playing games on Saturday instead, if there was a huge demand to do so.
Once again, we'll cross that bridge when the bridge keeper asks his
questions three.
By the way, nice word, eh? "Acclimatized"?
I hope you can all adjust to these changes without any medical, psychological,
or otherwise detrimental ill-effects. Was that redundant? Oh well, you know
what I mean.
Thanks, and good luck to me,
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Kolekona - Gord Ace Payne
GM NSHL Muffs and ISHHL Riverdales
acepayne@home.com
muffs@nshl.com
commish@nshl.com
Check out the NSHL site at www.nshl.com
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"Old punks never die. They just move to
the back."
- Joe Shithead (DOA)
Posted on Oct 4, 1999, 7:42 AM from IP address 198.103.53.2
Forgetting about age, and teammates - who is the BEST player in the NSHL, and WHY ???? Please give a valid, resonable explanation! Thanks, and have fun!
Posted on Sep 28, 1999, 4:15 PM from IP address 210.243.182.10
Todd Harvey is the best this year, look at his stats and his ratings. If you want longevite, I look to Messier, Bourque, Audette, Zubov, guys like that........ of course I'm biased.
Posted on Sep 28, 1999, 5:16 PM from IP address 207.34.78.62
Chris Chelios is BY FAR the best player in The NSHL.
Why?
The record speaks for itself:
Leading Scoring Defenceman last season, despite missing 5 games to injuries. Leading Goal Scoring defenceman last season.
BUT THAT WAS THEN, what about now!
Currently the 5TH HIGHEST scoring D-man despite missing 12 GAMES TO INJURY! Just 2 points down on Ray Bourque
Currently 5 leading GOAL SCORER for D-men despite missing 12 GAMES TO INJURY! Just 1 Goal behind Ray Bourque, and 6 behind the leader, Jeff N Brown, who has played 14 MORE GAMES than Chelios.
He is THE spiritual, inspirational, traditional, emotional, leader of The Lizards - when he is in the lineup, the Lizards have a chance to win, and MOST often do, against ANY TEAM in the NSHL!
His totals have been put up while playing with a team that has been ranked as low as 17th !!! on the NSHL Power Rankings! This guy has no Messier's/Fedorov's/Schaefer's/Phillips'/McCauly's to feed off of! He does it all HIMSELF !!!, for the most part! He has no Harvey's/Audette's/Bourque's/Thornton's/etc. to set him up, take the pass for the sure goal, etc. No, he has a team of JOURNEYMAN plumbers, basically, that HE has to carry along on his shoulders, not the other way around!
His Points per Game average is 1.375, SECOND only to Kenny Jonsson's MAGNIFICENT season (though again on a INFINATELY more powerful team than The Lizards are) of 1.456.
His Goals per Game average is the best in The NSHL from the blueline, .475.
He's simply, the best man playing out there, and has proven that for over two seasons now!
Posted on Oct 26, 1999, 2:11 PM from IP address 139.175.186.40
I AGREE! There is NO question in my own mind that I should have won the NSHL MVP Award last season, let alone The Robert Gordon Orr Trophy! Mind you, it was with the help of Joey J., John Le?who?, and Captain Whitney et al. that I carried the worst franchise in NSHL history to the NSHL Regular Season Bronze Medal!
This season, had I not been sidelined by a broken wrist, I'd once again be leading the D-man scoring race, and in fact probably be in a hunt for OVERALL scoring leader, as was the case before my injury! There was every chance in the world I was going to SHATTER Phil Housley's Goal Scoring record for defensemen before the injury too!
Since coming back from the broken wrist, knowing that the record was now probably out of reach, I have played a much more conservative, defensive style, helping The Lizards to losing just ONE GAME in the last 11!, tightening up the goals against. Yet at the same time, I have been quietly sneaking up the points ladder again, and now hold FOURTH in D-man scoring, even though I was out for a dozen!
On a team that on paper should not be doing as well as it has been lately, I'd say my play is worth TWICE as much as if I played for The Infantry or Muffs, The Thistles or Thieves, the Traders or Spirit, etc.
So, I agree. I AM the best player in the NSHL, and come contract time, Lizards Management are going to KNOW that! Hahahahaha
not yours,
Chris Chelios
Posted on Oct 27, 1999, 10:58 AM from IP address 210.243.182.43
Production isn't everything. I've played on teams where guys with low "numbers" could be considered the team's MVP. It's what you do on AND off the ice that counts, in my books.
Cheers to the unsung heroes of hockey everywhere.
#2 David Harlock
Posted on Nov 3, 1999, 11:55 PM from IP address 209.47.26.176
This is GREAT! Being ranked so low will only accentuate my meteoric rise back to the top! I can't wait to see the next Power Rankings Report! Who's doing it?
Posted on Sep 28, 1999, 6:57 AM from IP address 210.243.182.60
Just for curiosity sakes,
Does anyone know how the number of 9 was decided
on for the amount of protection spots? It would be nice if every team could protect 2 lines, 4 dmen and one goalie.
Posted on Sep 19, 1999, 4:51 PM from IP address 209.82.96.103
I would prefer to protect only 1 line and a goalie (that is 3F, 2D, 1G). This would indeed be a one round draft that would induce juice into the
weaker teams. However, 9 is going to do a lot of help as well. 2 lines and a goalie is way too much to protect.
Posted on Sep 20, 1999, 1:25 AM from IP address 216.13.21.223
Usually, when I get to the bottom, I go back to the top of the slide, and I stop...and I look...and I go for a ride; then I get to the bottom, and I see you again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Posted on Sep 28, 1999, 8:03 AM from IP address 210.243.182.60
The Dispersal Draft won't make much difference, I feel.
Just taking the TOP 9 RATED players on every team (the # allowed to be protected and NOT accounting for leaving GOOD players exposed that are near or already announced retirement, like a Messier, for instance), and you will see that the difference for the most part of the next BEST rated player on each team is really quite minimal! Sure, a couple of GREAT teams may lose a good player, but they will be getting back an average to good player in return anyway! The resulting balance of numbers will only be a Ratings point or two difference on average!
I'd rather see the draft go TWO rounds, adding more suspense, choice, option, and equalization. There's a lot more suspense involved when TWO players can be lost from your team, as you can't simply DRAFT YOUR OWN PLAYER, and know you're safe for the rest of the draft, if you choose. With TWO rounds, you'd still have a player that could be taken until it comes around to your pick AGAIN, and THEN if you've STILL decided you want to keep the team you've worked so hard to build, AND no one has taken a player from your team yet, then you can. I think it just adds a LOT MORE DRAMA AND SUSPENSE, which = FUN! And in the end, it's going to be much like the famous "HAT TRADES"; ForMOST TEAMS, you're most likely going to get someone VERY CLOSE to the range of player that you give up.
Otherwise, if only 1 Round is performed, I'd rather see it as Artur has suggested - protect 6 players: 3 forwards, 2 d-men & a goalie. NOW we'll see some weaker teams benefitting! NOW we'll see some nervous teams wondering "WHO'S IT GONNA BE THAT I LOSE ?!?!?!" THIS would be fun !!!
Take a look at the rosters; protecting MORE than nine pretty much leaves the whole process pointless.
Posted on Sep 28, 1999, 7:59 AM from IP address 210.243.182.60
It's easy for you to say that we should have 2 rounds. You don't have 9 great players to protect so you only win. If we went two rounds then the league would even out a helluva lot quicker but then there would be no incentive to trade for several great players. Why work to be elite if you are just going to be penalized?? If we went two rounds, I would find another league to play in, as I'm sure the Tabor's and Carmen's of the world would too.
Posted on Sep 28, 1999, 2:53 PM from IP address 207.34.78.62
Oh my Buddha, man. Grow UP! It's called "discussion of a topic, open for different points of view", and certainly expected to be approached with a little better attitude than that.
Life SUCKS, Jeff. Didn't you know that? The secret is, don't let it bother you! AND THAT'S WISDOM for a REAL LIFE - it shouldn't even be NEEDED when playing a game!
Do you think everyone was having orgasms over the loss of Steaks & Slumps? Did you see a lot of GM's running away shouting, "It's the end of the world, so I'm not playing anymore?" I didn't.
PS: I'd loose some PRETTY DAMN FINE PLAYERS if I could only protect 6 men, by the way! As it is, I'm right concerned about only getting to protect 9!!!
Do you think I've worked ANY LESS HARD than YOU, to get The Lizards franchise (the SORRIEST PACK OF SHIT IN THE NSHL'S HISTORY before I came along!!! - and that's been statistically proven!) to where it is today! Oh, SORRY if I've only had a season and a half to work on it, as opposed to your 6-7 seasons...
Well, I'm JUST as proud of my team as you can be of yours, as I'm sure the Chase's McCann's of the world are too, and I'd JUST AS NOT want to have my players go to another team via the Waiver Draft as you would, or "the Tabor's and Carmen's of the world", thank you very much.
However, I LIKE the idea, as parity brings with it competition, which brings with it MORE FUN FOR EVERYONE. Thus, for the good of the league, I'm will to go along!
Posted on Sep 28, 1999, 4:06 PM from IP address 210.243.182.10
I wouldn't exactly call getting 2 awesome players handed to you, "hard Work". Working hard means making clever trades and making good lines. Life sucks??? I don't agree. As far as joining another league, if this one isn't fun anymore, than why waste leasure time on it?? Join one that is more fun. This is a great league and you can use this for discussion all you want. You express your view and I express mine. Good job easton.
Posted on Sep 28, 1999, 5:12 PM from IP address 207.34.78.62
So I'm trying to make my team better by trading for better players. My salary totals go up, but the talent still isn't enough for playoff success. I lose my good waiver draft placement, etc.
What's wrong with this picture?
Posted on Sep 30, 1999, 12:46 PM from IP address 134.117.137.62
Maybe we should look at reallignment? Put the Eagles into the Shultz or somebody like this. It has been a little bit rediculous that I have my division won already and it's been like that for several seasons with the exception of last season. I almost think that I should be put in the same div as the Muffs and move the Louds into my division. The Spirit's division definitely could use some tinkering with. Take 2 teams from the Shultz and put them into the Spirit's division and take two from them and put them in the Shultz. Does that work???
Posted on Sep 30, 1999, 2:53 PM from IP address 207.34.78.62
I would just like to make a quick comment about the streak/slumps being removed so far. I know that I am sure to get support and criticism for my view but here it goes.
I think that we now have an accurate depiction of what the teams in our league are really like. The Infantry are finally playing like they should have been years ago because Tabor's hands are not tied because of bad luck with streaks. With the dispersal draft being implemented, the lower end teams should start to see immediate results as well. If you think that streaks and slumps level the playing field then I must ask you, "Why should you enjoy the benefits of success without having built a good team?"
One more piece of advice for new gm's with weakert teams. If I were in charge of a weaker team, I would take a very highly rated player in the dispersal draft(obvious) and trade him for 2 or 3 mid 70's players with good skills. This would do you more good than just having one very highly rated player. My team got good because I stockpiled above average players and then began shipping them off in pairs for one excellent player. Just my two cents, I hope it will help somebody.
Posted on Sep 19, 1999, 2:10 AM from IP address 209.82.96.79
With or without streaks and slumps a GM still has to manage their team. With the feature, there's just one more thing to consider.
Obviously (if after +/- 25 games it's obvious), teams with greater depth generally did not have as much to worry about as teams with less depth. While the ravages of slumps may have adversely affected teams like the Infantry in past seasons, there have been GMs who would not have considered a player's current streak/slump a factor in trade negotiations. (You know who you are.)
As for the SunDogs in NSHL7, there have been 7 very poor games played with probably more to come. Games that should have resulted in ties if not wins, based on franchise history and dare I say, probability. (51 tie games in 6 seasons.)However, my team has also lost to our traditional powerful foes.
I suggested more than a season ago to try out at least one season without streaks/slumps and now we have them. It certainly has made managing a team less time consuming. No injuries? No changes to the farm squad? Ok, check it out again after the next game. Then again, having good (great?) players slump sucks.
There is a certain consistency without streaks/slumps. Now I can work more with various line combinations, balancing offensive and defensive traits. Thinking maybe even about handedness. On a "weaker team" having a star in a slump could drop him from the first three lines if not the lineup. Mediocre players playing with a streak might improve during the re-rate but seem to be more likely to flop flop a few ratings, but keep the same total.
So what's a GM of a weaker team to do? Mr. Tetz offers some advice. Take a star player from a strong team in the waiver draft and then trade him back for two or three lesser players. Then trade those two or three players for another star player. Uh, wait a minute. Trade away the star player for 2 or 3 lesser because it's better to have 3 good players than one great player, but the Traders got good by trading 2 or 3 lesser players for one great player. Hmm. Maybe I missed something there.
In any case, you can be sure that any 3rd line Trader will probably be a 1st line player on the weakest teams. And any 2 or 3 players received in a trade would seem to be able to play on the 2nd line, leading to a more balanced lineup. Is this what you mean Jeff? Do what Anaheim does with Kariya and Sellane?
Posted on Sep 19, 1999, 2:05 PM from IP address 134.117.137.152
Perhaps I was unclear. I stockpiled more above average players than I needed and then began packaging them for stars. I didn't trade a great player for 2 or 3 average players and then dish those same 2 or 3 players back for a star. I built up many draft picks and that gave me many above average players whom I dealt for stars.
See the Fedorov, Kariya and Messier deals that I made with the Foomanchu, Rockets and Eagles respectively. Look at my roster in NSHL1 and now look at it. It takes work to mould your team into what I have now.
Posted on Sep 19, 1999, 4:48 PM from IP address 209.82.96.103
As a third of the season is gone, I would like to point out that this season has been the most successfull by far in terms of many categories:
- GM participation in press-releases, league mantainance, and my personal favorite - arguing :-)
- competition - Semenko Division was never so tight; Infantry emerged as another league leader;
Lizzards had a huge swing from up to down; Stompers and Eagles swang from down to up;
So, IMHO, the absence of streaks seem to be making this league a better place. Finally, waver draft should make the weak teams more competitive the next season. Personally, I like where this league is heading at this time.
Posted on Sep 20, 1999, 1:22 AM from IP address 216.13.21.223
that the absence of streaks/slumps doesn't
make the standings in this league static and boring at all - there is actually a lot of motion
in overall standing.
Artur
Posted on Sep 22, 1999, 5:11 PM from IP address 199.45.71.2
Before the season started, I had never been involved in an HLS2 league before. I have enjoyed it enough to this point to have joined 2 other leagues. I have now played with the streaks and slumps, and think that I understand the pros and cons of the feature.
I believe that the feature adds a touch more realism to the game. The game isn't played in a bubble. Sometimes players are "seeing the puck better", or "just don't seem to have any spark", it's just part of being human. The history books are full of stories of lesser teams riding a hot streak to finish above their proper station, and favoured teams struggling unsuccessfully to meet their lofty expectations. This is the essense of the game! This is the reason they don't just look at the rosters and vote for who wins.
To close, I don't think that there is a right or a wrong way to run the league. I believe that it boils down to whether you are an American League-style manager or a National League-style manager. Many prefer to just write in their lineup at the beginning of the season and adjust for trades or injuries. Others enjoy the strategy and constant tinkering. For me personally, I love the streaks and slumps because it allows me to have more fun, and that is my bottom line for playing the game in the first place. But that doesn't mean that I won't enjoy participating in this league without the feature.
Posted on Sep 20, 1999, 3:47 PM from IP address 149.99.83.78
I would not be so dead set against streaks
and slumps if we could protect more players
from being rerated. If the protections spots
depend on the number of farmers, I would not
be so against them.
One more point that I must make is that streaks and slumps are completely abitrary. I could have a guy get 10 points in 3 games and then go -2. If there was some rhyme or reason or logic to the streaks and slumps, they would be a little more welcomed by some people I think.
Posted on Sep 20, 1999, 6:51 PM from IP address 129.128.153.50
I can live with a reasonable number of protection spots although I prefer 25.
More importantly, I agree with Jeff on his second point. While they probably shouldn't be predictable they should at least be explanable. But chalk another one up to the HLS2 simulator.
Posted on Sep 21, 1999, 9:51 PM from IP address 134.117.137.185
Ya know, these GREAT teams go on about how it takes time to build a winner, blah, blah... there are a few VERY IMPORTANT things that seem to be being left out of their arguments:
1) HOW DID THEY GET high 80's and 90's rated players in the 1st place?
Assuming that everyone started out generally okay to good, then I'm confident that STREAKS were used and managed well to allow these now GREAT players to score WAY beyond their actual rating values, thus promoting GREAT Re-rates (across the board), thus making these players GREAT! Obviously, it takes a while, and some good management to use these steaks to the maximum effect, and some GM's have had better success at it than others.
But REST ASSURED, these astronomical Re-rates that have made these SUPERSTARS would NOT have been likely to occure had Streaks not been part of the game to begin with!!!! THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT! Simply, without Streaks, players seem to generally play within their means (relative to linemates, injuries, etc), and would not have been scoring at the 17.6% rate while only a 6 Rated Sh (shot), allowing for such a favourable "across the board" Re-rate to occure for them!
BUT NOW, that the GREAT TEAMS (usually GM's that have been around the longest and have had the TIME to figure out what works best! - The Traders/Muffs/Spirit/Eagles/Infantry/etc.) have a good core of GREAT players in their system, that GREW from favourable Re-rates, most assuredly, they argue for Streaks to be taken away, thereby not allowing New GM's, and weaker teams, to even have a CHANCE at getting the favourable Re-rates that THE GREAT TEAMS have already enjoyed and benefitted from for 6 Seasons, building their GREAT rosters accordingly!
If you have a team anywhere close to .500 or lower, then: VOTE FOR STREAKS & SLUMPS to be brought BACK! If you want to be challenged as a Manager of an above .500 team, then: VOTE FOR STREAKS & SLUMPS to be brought BACK! If you just want to HAVE MORE FUN, then: VOTE FOR STREAKS & SLUMPS to be brought BACK!
2) Assuming that the BEST a player can be is a 9 in any rating catagory, then Streaks HELPS weaker teams WAY MORE than stronger teams! So of COURSE the strong teams are going to try and vote it out! How?
If you have so many players that are ALREADY rated 9's in Prime Catagories (those Catagories that Salary is based on), then having them be a +2 doesn't matter! But when most of your team sits with 7's in the Prime Catagories, then a +2 increases their value by 22%!!! The generally weaker team has a FAR BETTER chance of seeing average players increase to great players, as they simply have FAR MORE average players that could be HIT by a +2 streak.
Conversely, the stronger teams have FAR MORE GREAT players that could be HIT with a -2 slump! Even if EVERY team gets the same # of players that Streak or Slump, then the weaker teams come out on top!
When slumps hit a team, those with so many 9's in Prime Catagories will be hurt FAR MORE with a -2 slump, as their GREAT players become average. A weaker team is going to lose (odds are) to the stronger team ANYWAY. So, a slump isn't going to make the win any easier - they will STILL lose.
But with it being RANDOM, we could see weaker teams UPSETTING a stronger team much more often.
If you have a team anywhere close to .500 or lower, then: VOTE FOR STREAKS & SLUMPS to be brought BACK! If you want to be challenged as a Manager of an above .500 team, then: VOTE FOR STREAKS & SLUMPS to be brought BACK! If you just want to HAVE MORE FUN, then: VOTE FOR STREAKS & SLUMPS to be brought BACK!
3) And finally, of course, the sheer ENJOYMENT of juggling rosters and lines and players because of +2's and -2's, and even TRADING for players (your starting goalie, the ONLY good goalie you have, has been stuck at -2 all season - you TRADE for a +2 Goalie to get back on track!) etc., this all promotes participation, excitement, fun suspense & mystery! HOW LONG is Fluery going to be able to keep this up?!?! (Milk him!!!) When will Brind'Amour EVER get back to seeing where the net is?!?!?! (The BUM!) Give David Cooper the BIG BREAK he deserves ('cause he's sitting +2, making him your 4th best D-man!) THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT!
Everyday we click into www.nshl.com, we MIGHT find something VERY SCARY, or conversly VERY EXCITING happening with our team, due to Streaks & Slumps. It's SUPER!
But, we back to the main point. Great teams have built their teams USING streaks to maximize Re-rates to their advantage. Bad GM's, whose poor trading practices and high turnover have left many "weak sisters" in the NSHL. NOW, even if a GREAT GM takes over a floundering team, they don't have the advantages that were there for the LONG TERM GM's who made the best of their Streaks to get such great rosters through positive Re-rates.
Good luck everyone:
If you have a team anywhere close to .500 or lower, then: VOTE FOR STREAKS & SLUMPS to be brought BACK! If you want to be challenged as a Manager of an above .500 team, then: VOTE FOR STREAKS & SLUMPS to be brought BACK! If you just want to HAVE MORE FUN, then: VOTE FOR STREAKS & SLUMPS to be brought BACK!
Posted on Sep 28, 1999, 7:42 AM from IP address 210.243.182.60
"BUT NOW, that the GREAT TEAMS (usually GM's that have been around the longest and have had the TIME to figure out what works best! - The Traders/Muffs/Spirit/Eagles/Infantry/etc.)"
I was NOT meaning to imply specifically that ANY of the mentioned teams voted specifically to have Steaks & Slumps removed - they may or may not have. I HAVE heard and talked to SEVERAL of the GM's with strong teams who have made this impression to me, and others have obviously made their feelings known through mailings in the past, and this page. Generally, however, I have not heard many (?any?) of the longer standing GM's, with relatively strong teams, arguing to KEEP the feature, hence my comment. There seems to be MANY MORE stronger teams FOR the demise of Streaks & Slumps, than those that are arguing to keep them!
Posted on Sep 28, 1999, 8:51 AM from IP address 210.243.182.60
Go back into the files eastin and see how many
shitty players that I had rerate astronomically.
I've never had a 6 shot shoot for over 17% when playing on a regular shift. I may have guys that only play a few games or that don't get regular ice time shoot over 17% with like 30 shots per season. I've never dressed shitty players on regular lines though. Even if a shitty player has a good year, he can only go up by one point in a given category come rerate time.
Once again, I go back to my point that if we can have as many protection spots as we have farmers, the I say let streaks and slumps come back, I could care less. But I don't want 4 protect spots with streaks and slumps.
Another point, When Keith Tkachuk was leading the league in scoring for two years he had great ratings already. Same for Messier and so on and so forth. Guys that have gone up great for me over the years; Phillips and Salei and Brown and that may be it. McCauley will make the jump to superstar status hopefully.
I really like what the Thieves and Thistles have done. They came from shit and now have great teams. Same for the Loudmouths. The Loudmouths have worked hard and gotten better. I know you'll come back with some rhetorical comments EAstin but I really think that you are always looking for shortcuts to your "perennial Neely Cup Championship." Although you'll be sure to cry foul and innocence when faced with accusations that may or may not have some truth to them.
I look forward to your response Archie.
Posted on Sep 30, 1999, 10:58 PM from IP address 207.34.78.62
From what I have experienced in my season and a half, I must say that I enjoy the absence of streaks/slumps more than I did having them on last season. Slumps were a season-long frustration for me, and I am glad they are gone.
I can agree with Easton on the point of an unfair advantage when it comes to losing the chance to get across the board rerates over a full season, but them's the breaks and I will deal with them as best I can.
Last year my teamed SUCKED. In one short season, I am hovering around .500 with some wins against top teams like the Traders and Muffs. I made quite a few trades, and I like to think that it is these that have helped me most. I was lucky with farm rerates, but that's OK by me!!
I enjoy the NSHL this season. Last season, while it was enjoyable to have more active trade talks in progress, it certainly was borne of some frustration. If there is to be a vote, then I will cast it again...no streaks/slumps!
Building my team is fun...takes time...
Posted on Sep 29, 1999, 1:13 AM from IP address 24.113.17.166
Just to clarify the criteria for suggesting nominees for this award.
When suggesting a nominee it is necessary to state in which game or on which date the incident occurred. With this information, our team of researchers verifies the information using the PIMs given for the game in question and the injury time that resulted from the same game.
And remember, both the injured and the injurer receive the same number of points, one per game missed due to injury.
Posted on Sep 14, 1999, 1:36 PM from IP address 134.117.137.152
I was just curious to hear some comments on the power rankings. Did you like them, did you hate them or were they just there? Anyhow, any comments would be appreciated. Were any of the comments slightly humerous??? Nothing at all??..
Did anybody read them??.... Please, I need some
gratification.
Posted on Sep 13, 1999, 4:44 PM from IP address 129.128.153.50
As I understand, it is much easier to critisize than to do something. However, sisnce you asked...
IMHO, the power rankings could use a bit more humour and possibly be less wordy. I still think that the punchline format used by Larry last season was the most effective choice for this sort of report.
At the same time, your ranking of teams was rather
unbiassed and well corresponding to what happened in the last 10 games.
So, all and all, you did a good job.
Thanks
Artur
Posted on Sep 14, 1999, 9:36 AM from IP address 199.45.71.2
No matter WHAT the results, or my feelings on the Power Rankings, I appreciate your putting in the effort. For me, THAT'S what is important and ought to be APPRECIATED!!!
Thanks, Jeff.
Posted on Sep 17, 1999, 12:59 PM from IP address 139.175.186.146
Cheer up! Now you can write your own editions of the NSHL Power Rankings.
The following editions are still available.
Game 40 report - The Mid-Season Overview
due: October 2nd
Game 50 report - Thanksgiving Day Parade
due: October 16th
Game 60 report - Spooktacular Edition
due: October 30th
Game 70 report - Remembrance Day Primer
due: November 13th
Game 80 Report - The NSHL7 Playoff Preview
due: November 27th
And remember, YOU decide what the criteria is. All I need is the 24 NSHL teams listed in your pre-determined order with your witty and/or sarcastic comments appended.
Simple? Yes! Do it today!
Posted on Sep 13, 1999, 2:10 PM from IP address 198.103.53.2
From the start of NSHL 6, with a no line team, to the start of NSHL 7, with a one line team, LC now has reached, according to the latest issue of the Power Rankings, average team status!!!
Hee, heh, ha!! All according to my madcap plans!!!
From garbage, to average, to decent, to good, to great, to the Neely Cup!!!!
LOOK OUT IN NSHL 11...the league will go PSYCHO!!
Posted on Sep 13, 1999, 5:26 AM from IP address 24.113.17.166
The Power Rankings are done, yes. Sorry for the
Delay. I needed my team to end on a high note
before I published them so that I could sort
of justify putting the Traders as the first,
second and third ranked hockey club.
Remember though, it wasn't me who wrote them, it was my publicist. I had nothing to do with them.
Grizzly did interview me but that's as far as it
went.
Posted on Sep 12, 1999, 4:55 PM from IP address 209.82.96.66
I must say that it has gotten hard to follow all of the latest postings. A couple of things posted by Carman and Lavitt had me rolling on the ground almost. I do think that's it's pathetic to post something under a fake name and respond to it using your real name though. A lot of wasted space on this penalty box but Carman, Lavitt, Roytburg and TAbor provide the necessary comedic relief that is needed to sift through all of it.
On another note, I hear that a potential airline strike in Canada may make it impossible for any teams from out of North America to make it to any of their other games. This would mean that any outside teams would fold or be forced to join another league. Let's all pray that the issue is resolved very soon. Ball one, ball two, ooops, Steeeeeerike, you're outta here!!!!
Posted on Aug 29, 1999, 7:42 PM from IP address 209.82.96.98
I would just like to announce that I am in love with Jeff Tetz and we have intercourse on a number of occassions. He has a small penis but he is very good at oral sex.
Posted on Aug 29, 1999, 7:43 PM from IP address 209.82.96.98
I can't believe she said that in public. Plese don't listen to a word she says. She is always exagerating and making something out of nothing. I saw her at one of our away games and I tried to shove her off of me. Finally a grabbed her by the hair, and to my disgust, HE was wearing a Diller mask. The man wearing the mask was none other than...........
In an unrelated story, the Traders were not in North America on this day.
Posted on Aug 29, 1999, 7:47 PM from IP address 209.82.96.98
Well, see, it say in the bottom right hand corner of this page to "Hide Header", but in the preceding comments by Phyllis Diller, it was the reference to that guy giving oral sex was CLEARLY VISIBLE! What's with that?
Posted on Sep 3, 1999, 1:59 PM from IP address 210.243.183.19
Hi I was just taking a look......and I was wondering if there were any teams available yet.
Sexy Tetzy can vouch for me.....I am very serious,
and interested.......
Thanx
Travis
Posted on Aug 29, 1999, 1:09 AM from IP address 209.197.152.225
Do you know, "vouch" is just a one letter typo from "touch" - now the question is, did he MEAN "Sexy Tetzy can vouch for me.....I am very Serious, and interested.......", or was it a typo?
Posted on Sep 3, 1999, 2:12 PM from IP address 210.243.183.19
Yes, I do have a waiting list. I get messages quite frequently from people interested in the league. The fact that the web site is so well done certainly attracts a lot of this interest, and for that I'd like to offer my thanks to everyone that chips in!
Ace
Posted on Sep 13, 1999, 2:39 PM from IP address 24.66.52.85
