Games Workshop Message Board

Please follow these simple guidelines:
1. No Bashing. If you are caught bashing you will be banned.
2. Please stick as close to the topic as possible, Miniatures/Roleplaying Gaming.
3. No pointless posts.
4. No site plugging unless your a frequent poster to this board.
5. Don't use graphics in every post, such as an image signatures.
Moderators: Cuffs, diablone, Deadite, Inquisitor Glave
Thanks.
All rights Reserved.

Lectern: Alcohol & 40k



Listy... I'm reading Kill Team at the moment

by

>>>>BRAINS>>>> LMAO, I am thoroughly enjoying this book Thanks for the recommendation.

Posted on Nov 28, 2001, 12:23 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

you mean...

by listy the treadhead

how he gets out of the last cancers? the Kroot??

Posted on Nov 28, 2001, 11:03 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

I was talking about the section describing the Kroots Camp

by

I finished the book it was a great read. I am starting on the First and Only now.

Posted on Nov 28, 2001, 9:19 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Activated Blackstone rules?

by Noble

Where can I find the rules for an activated Blackstone fortress? They aren't in the core BFG rulebook, and I haven't been able to find them on GW's site or the BFG Warp Storm book.

Posted on Nov 27, 2001, 8:53 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Blackstone fall under Chaos section of BFG core rules

by

Page 127 of the core rules 750 pts.
that what you looking for???? Hope it helps

I remeber seeing something else as well but I can't seem to find my BFG mags. I'll keep looking.

Posted on Nov 27, 2001, 10:35 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

*slaps forehead* I'm a dumbass.....

by Noble

I don't know how the Hell I missed that. Thanks a bunch!

Posted on Nov 29, 2001, 12:34 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

want termies?

by

OK, I have two GW "archive" cyclone missle terminators that I decided I don't want. I will sell or trade them to anyone interested. As far as money goes, I guess 10-15 bucks for both (one has a little damage to his left side where the arm goes, but it is not bad).
I am looking for good bits to make my own terminator missle-launchers and heavy flamers if you are interested in trading.

On a completely different note: The insurance decided to total the Beast...so if anyone knows of an old car, in good shape but w/o an engine, let me know. If the Beast must die, at least its heart can live on in another body. (btw- engine compartment must be able to accomodate 454cu [7.4L for you heathens])

Posted on Nov 27, 2001, 6:00 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

I can look and see what I have.

by

I think I have the flamer arms you need. and at least one ML too.

Posted on Nov 27, 2001, 10:37 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

thanks

by

Thanks a lot. Do ya want the Terminators? And did I mention that they are sans arms? Wanted them to have new style arms...

Posted on Nov 28, 2001, 6:02 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Sorry I went through my two bits boxes and I don't have any left.

by

Sorry

Posted on Nov 28, 2001, 9:20 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Here is a list of the Imperial Gaurd Army I am taking to Dakka..

by

Below is the entire listing of what I am taking to the Dakka City fight mega battle. Believe it or not I still am leaving out several units of my Imperials. I figured you'd get a kick out of it. The City Fight is this Saturday. Dec 1rst.

Thanks Carmachu for adding to my arbite troopers



27th Praetorian / 7th Cavalry5000 Pts - Imperial Guard Army

1 Inquisitor Victor Von Trenddle (Inquisitor) @ 95 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Psycannon; Daemon Hunter; Rosarius
Power Weapon [10]

1 Col. Archibald Henderson (Command HQ - Colonel) @ 175 Pts
Power Fist; Power Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]
Trademark Item [5]
Bionics [5]

2 27th Praetorian (Command Section) @ [50] Pts
Mortar (x1); Meltagun (x1)

1 Medic @ [10] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon

1 Standard Bearer @ [10] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon

6 27th /1rst Anti-Tank Squad (Anti-Tank Squad) @ 125 Pts
Lasgun; Lascannon (x3)

6 27th/2nd Anti-Tank Squad (Anti-Tank Squad) @ 125 Pts
Lasgun; Lascannon (x3)

1 Sentinel @ 45 Pts
Front Armour: 10; Side Armour: 10; Rear Armour: 10; Heavy Flamer
Extra Armour [5]

1 Lt. Robert Donovon (Platoon Commander) @ 99 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Power Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]

4 1rst Platoon (Command Section) @ [31] Pts
Lasgun (x1); Lascannon (x1); Flamer (x1); Grenade Launcher (x1)

9 1rst Squad (Infantry Squad) @ 96 Pts
Commander: Lt. Robert Donovon (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Autocannon (x1);
Flamer (x1)

1 Sgt. Reynolds (Veteran Sergeant) @ [24] Pts
Bolt Pistol; Lasgun
Carapace Armour [5]

9 2nd Squad (Infantry Squad) @ 73 Pts
Commander: Lt. Robert Donovon (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Heavy Bolter (x1);
Flamer (x1)

1 Sgt. Pauline (Sergeant) @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon

9 3rd Squad (Infantry Squad) @ 83 Pts
Commander: Lt. Robert Donovon (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Autocannon (x1);
Meltagun (x1)

1 Sgt. Ricther (Sergeant) @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon

1 Lt. Edward Graff (Platoon Commander) @ 96 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Power Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]

4 2nd Platoon (Command Section) @ [28] Pts
Lasgun (x2); Lascannon (x1); Grenade Launcher (x1)

9 1rst Squad (Infantry Squad) @ 83 Pts
Commander: Lt. Edward Graff (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Lascannon (x1); Flamer
(x1)

1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon

9 2nd Squad (Infantry Squad) @ 83 Pts
Commander: Lt. Edward Graff (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Lascannon (x1); Flamer
(x1)

1 Sgt. Driscoll (Sergeant) @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon

9 3rd Squad (Infantry Squad) @ 73 Pts
Commander: Lt. Edward Graff (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Heavy Bolter (x1);
Flamer (x1)

1 Sgt. Williams (Sergeant) @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon

1 Lt. Remmington (Platoon Commander) @ 94 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Power Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]

4 3rd Platoon (Command Section) @ [26] Pts
Lasgun (x1); Autocannon (x1); Flamer (x1); Grenade Launcher (x1)

9 1rst Squad (Infantry Squad) @ 83 Pts
Commander: Lt. Remmington (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Missile Launcher (x1);
Meltagun (x1)

1 Sgt. Miller (Sergeant) @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon

9 2nd Squad (Infantry Squad) @ 83 Pts
Commander: Lt. Remmington (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Missile Launcher (x1);
Meltagun (x1)

1 Sgt. Reynier (Sergeant) @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon

9 3rd Squad (Infantry Squad) @ 83 Pts
Commander: Lt. Remmington (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Lascannon (x1); Flamer
(x1)

1 Sgt. Thomas (Sergeant) @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon

1 27th Praetorian 1rst Tank Corp (Leman Russ Vanquisher) @ 248 Pts
Turret Battle Cannon; Hull Lascannon; 2 Sponson Heavy Bolters; Veterans
#Pintle Storm Bolter [0]
Extra Armour [5]
Crew Escape Mechanism [10]
Track Guards [10]
Smoke Launchers [3]

1 27th Armoured Artillery A Troop (Basilisk) @ 125 Pts
Indirect Fire Capability; Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter

5 27th Praetorian Black Horse A troop (Rough Rider Squad) @ 95 Pts
Hunting Lance; Laspistol & CC Weapon (x4); Flamer (x1)

1 Sgt. Horvell (Veteran Sergeant) @ [30] Pts
Hunting Lance; Bolt Pistol; CC Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]

3 27th Praetorian Black Horse B Troop (Sentinel) @ 150 Pts
Front Armour: 10; Side Armour: 10; Rear Armour: 10; Multilaser
Extra Armour [5]

4 7th Cav HQ vets (Hardened Veterans) @ 368 Pts
Autopistol & CCW (x2); Lasgun (x4); Heavy Bolter (x1); Sniper Rifle (x1);
Grenade Launcher (x1); Plasma Rifle (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades;
Veterans

1 Capt. Henry Dunn (Veteran Officer) @ [97] Pts
Power Weapon; Bolter
Bionics [5]
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]
Master-Crafted Weapon [15]

1 Sgt. Johnny Thundercloud (Veteran Sergeant) @ [55] Pts
Bolt Pistol; Power Weapon; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]

1 Chimera @ [119] Pts
Turret Multilaser; Hull Heavy Flamer
Camo Netting [1]
Smoke Launchers [3]
Extra Armour [5]
Rough Terrain Modification [5]
Pintle Storm Bolter [10]
Track Guards [10]

1 Lt. Brad Stiener (Platoon Commander) @ 228 Pts
Power Weapon; Bolter
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]

3 7th Cav. A Troop HQ. (Command Section) @ [161] Pts
Lasgun (x2); Autocannon (x1); Com-Link

1 Brother Mary Sabastian (Preacher) @ [15] Pts
Laspistol; Rosarius

1 Sgt. Milbury (Veteran Sergeant) @ [18] Pts
Bolt Pistol; CC Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]

1 Chimera @ [103] Pts
Turret Multilaser; Hull Heavy Flamer
Smoke Launchers [3]
Extra Armour [5]
Track Guards [10]

9 7th Cav/ A Troop 1rst Sqd (Infantry Squad) @ 91 Pts
Commander: Lt. Brad Stiener (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Heavy Bolter (x1);
Flamer (x1)

1 Sgt. Rocke (Veteran Sergeant) @ [24] Pts
Bolt Pistol; CC Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]

9 7th Cav / A Troop 2nd Sqd (Infantry Squad) @ 101 Pts
Commander: Lt. Brad Stiener (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Missile Launcher (x1);
Grenade Launcher (x1)

1 Sgt. Killroy (Veteran Sergeant) @ [24] Pts
Bolt Pistol; CC Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]

9 7th Cav/ A Troop 3rd Sqd (Infantry Squad) @ 103 Pts
Commander: Lt. Brad Stiener (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Missile Launcher (x1);
Flamer (x1)

1 Sgt. Saphra (Veteran Sergeant) @ [31] Pts
CC Weapon; Plasma Pistol
Carapace Armour [5]

9 7th Cav/ A Troop 4rth Sqd (Infantry Squad) @ 105 Pts
Commander: Lt. Brad Stiener (Lieut); Lasgun (x8); Mortar (x1); Com-Link

1 Sgt. Price (Veteran Sergeant) @ [31] Pts
CC Weapon; Plasma Pistol
Carapace Armour [5]

9 7th Cav/ A Troop 5th Sqd (Infantry Squad) @ 106 Pts
Commander: Lt. Brad Stiener (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Lascannon (x1); Meltagun
(x1)

1 Sgt. Preistley (Veteran Sergeant) @ [24] Pts
Bolt Pistol; CC Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]

6 7th Cav/ A Troop 1rst Support Sqd (Mortar Squad) @ 100 Pts
Lasgun; Mortar (x3); Com-Link

5 7th Cav/ A Troop 1rst Ogryns Sqd (Ogryns) @ 280 Pts
Ripper Gun & CC Weapon (x5)

1 Sister Melissa (Preacher) @ [25] Pts
Laspistol; Rosarius
Power Weapon [10]

1 Chimera @ [105] Pts
Turret Multilaser; Hull Heavy Flamer
Extra Armour [5]
Rough Terrain Modification [5]
Track Guards [10]

1 7th Cav. Heavy Troop (Leman Russ Demolisher) @ 219 Pts
Turret Demolisher Cannon; Hull Lascannon; 2 Sponson Heavy Bolters
Camo Netting [1]
Smoke Launchers [3]
Extra Armour [5]
Rough Terrain Modification [5]
Crew Escape Mechanism [10]
Pintle Storm Bolter [10]
Track Guards [10]

8 Alpha Squad (Arbites Patrol Team) @ 222 Pts
Arbites Shotgun (x7); Grenade Launcher (x1)

1 Brother Nuln (Preacher) @ [25] Pts
Laspistol; Rosarius
Power Weapon [10]

1 Mathias Ruiz (Proctor) @ [25] Pts
Arbites Shotgun
Power Weapon [10]

1 Chimera Troop Transport @ [98] Pts
Turret Multi-Laser; Heavy Bolter; Smoke Launchers

4 Arbites Rapid Pursuit Team (aa) @ 142 Pts
Twin Bolters; Arbites Bike

1 Sari De'Rochard (Proctor) @ [42] Pts
Twin Bolters; Arbites Bike
Power Weapon [10]

1 Commissar Demitir Zuhkov (Commissar) @ 73 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Power Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]

1 Commissar Hanz Granger (Commissar) @ 73 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Power Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]


1 Commissar Rachel Semper (Commissar) @ 73 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Power Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]

1 Eversor Assassin (as) @ 95 Pts
Eversor Temple; Executioner Pistol; Power Weapon; Meltabombs;
Neuro-Gauntlet; Combat Drugs

Models in Army: 233


Total Army Cost: 4591


Posted on Nov 27, 2001, 2:50 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

whoopsy....

by listy the treadhead

ive just puredsed hte preatioans, i count (not including points spent on missmatched weapons, about 400 wasted Pts!



1 Inquisitor Victor Von Trenddle (Inquisitor) @ 95 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Psycannon; Daemon Hunter; Rosarius
Power Weapon [10]

waste of points, delete him ( im guessing about 70-90 odd pts.)

1 Col. Archibald Henderson (Command HQ - Colonel) @ 175 Pts
Power Fist; Power Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]
Trademark Item [5]
Bionics [5]

2 27th Praetorian (Command Section) @ [50] Pts
Mortar (x1); Meltagun (x1)

1 Medic @ [10] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon

1 Standard Bearer @ [10] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon

looking at that lot you actualy expect your guys to survive a wound, its VERY easy to cause a wound that ignores your armour save, or instant kills on guard, so the bionics, and the medic are no use.

Col, well i personly prefer a captain over a col, as it only gives you a +1 wound and LD for 20 pts!

power fist, AND a power weapon, what are you thinking? the power weapon will bounce of because of the lack of mussle power. and almosyt all hte time you will be going last, so you might as well use your fist.

trademark items, dont like em, never used em. STD is good. very good.

6 27th /1rst Anti-Tank Squad (Anti-Tank Squad) @ 125 Pts
Lasgun; Lascannon (x3)

6 27th/2nd Anti-Tank Squad (Anti-Tank Squad) @ 125 Pts
Lasgun; Lascannon (x3)

1 Sentinel @ 45 Pts
Front Armour: 10; Side Armour: 10; Rear Armour: 10; Heavy Flamer
Extra Armour [5]

ok, the rest is good, especialy the 6 lasscannons.

1 Lt. Robert Donovon (Platoon Commander) @ 99 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Power Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]

NONONONONONO! he's just a blasted guardsman with +1LD and A, there is no way he rates that much equipment, normaly a bolter is all i give mine.

4 1rst Platoon (Command Section) @ [31] Pts
Lasgun (x1); Lascannon (x1); Flamer (x1); Grenade Launcher (x1)

9 1rst Squad (Infantry Squad) @ 96 Pts
Commander: Lt. Robert Donovon (Lieut); Lasgun (x7); Autocannon (x1);
Flamer (x1)

1 Sgt. Reynolds (Veteran Sergeant) @ [24] Pts
Bolt Pistol; Lasgun
Carapace Armour [5]

a vet SGt??? WHY?

1 27th Praetorian 1rst Tank Corp (Leman Russ Vanquisher) @ 248 Pts
Turret Battle Cannon; Hull Lascannon; 2 Sponson Heavy Bolters; Veterans
#Pintle Storm Bolter [0]
Extra Armour [5]
Crew Escape Mechanism [10]
Track Guards [10]
Smoke Launchers [3]


ive got both a vanq and a russ, i always (now) run the russ, with a single Hbolter in the hull. Its all you need!

1 27th Armoured Artillery A Troop (Basilisk) @ 125 Pts
Indirect Fire Capability; Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter

Grifons, much cheaper and do the same job! and that min range of 36" is still a killer for a massive 35 pts.

5 27th Praetorian Black Horse A troop (Rough Rider Squad) @ 95 Pts
Hunting Lance; Laspistol & CC Weapon (x4); Flamer (x1)

1 Sgt. Horvell (Veteran Sergeant) @ [30] Pts
Hunting Lance; Bolt Pistol; CC Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]

again with the wargear....
personly there isnt enougth there to make the difference, up them to 10 men, or drop them entirley. id also give them lassguns and a plasma gun. then use htem as dragoons, only charging in towards the last part of hte game or if the situation dictates.

3 27th Praetorian Black Horse B Troop (Sentinel) @ 150 Pts
Front Armour: 10; Side Armour: 10; Rear Armour: 10; Multilaser
Extra Armour [5]

good, very Good, however you forgot the armoured crew compartment.

now the entire army is armed with mis matched weapons, what are the chances of you useing hte long range weapons? not much, why? because your tanks, At squads, cents will be covering hte streets. you infantry is needed to screen or move up and destroy the enemy formations with melta and flamer fire.

what your missing: leamon russ Demo, its big, its scary it HURTS!
hellhound its small its scary (although seems to be quit timid) and it HURTS
Commisar's, they are a god send to an IG army of any type, carrapace armour, refector feild, bolt pistol nad power fist, and you will leave big holes in hte enemy. if you want to be REALY nasty put him on a horse (for frre) and have him back up hte RR squad, if your gonna be REALY nasty give him a RR lance as well.

to me personly it loks like youve constructed this list the way you would a SM army, who actualy benifit from wargear, guard benfit from more weapons and warm bodys, as well as more armoured vechiles!!

Posted on Nov 27, 2001, 10:48 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Cityfight

by

Since you can hide your characters they work pretty well for IG in cityfight. I agree that power fists are the better option. I'd also take a few preachers with fists. Hellhound and demolisher is always a good choice.

Posted on Nov 27, 2001, 11:59 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Hey I gots' a Demolisher in there :)

by

The army that I am bringing is more of a fun type army to play and all of the army is what you see is what you get, so Every thing is modelled the way it's listed. My Col. is a full metal figure which came standard with the Praetorian Box set, he has both a sword and powerfist I believe he was originally a Commissar.

Vet Sgt Reynolds is actually trooper Reynolds who survived all the IG battles I had Against Angron's Chaos troopers and his Eldar Troops as well. I had to make him a Vet. It was only fair. As you will notice Lt Donovon who was also a vet survivor is now commanding a Platoon. (LT. Donovon was promoted by Commissar Yarrick himself). So thats a bit of fluff for the story.

Inquisitor Trenndle is searching for Commander Faust to bring him back into the fold or elimanate him(this is my Inquisitor from the Ephreal Stern set from Forge world. How this fits in is that the 27th and 7th Cav are allied with Faust's Dark Knights. The Knights and several other Marine Chapters will be battling in a Campaign that Angron are working on. 10,000 points of troops total for the overall City Fight Campaign at my house.

I know that some of the troops should not be involved in this, such as the Black Horse Cavalry,"Rough Riders"
But I fgure what the hell. Actually I do have a mtd Commissar with the Rough Riders, "Unless I failed to put him in there. I'll have to recheck my list" The reason I don't have ten rough riders is because they are all converted Praetorians and I have been piecing them from bits-workshop over time. I have 4 more to make to complete a ten man squad.

Thanks Very much for the critique I found a few things I missed and need to correct. As the my time is running out the battle hails this saturday.

My excuse for all this wargear, I want to see how it'll work. You see I am taking alot of stuff I don't normally use. My sentinals are the old type without the encasements so they are open topped unless I model them real fast as enclosed. "aint gonna happen as I just finished painting the Demolisher, Chimera(arbites vehicle) and now I'm working on the Arbites bike squad and Arbites Patrol Trooper squad(thanks Carmarchu for helping me with my recruitment)

So thats the method behind my madness. I have left behind
a Griffon
2 Leman russ Battle Tanks
3 Chimeras
10 Stormtroopers
4 regular squads
1 anti tank sqd(lasCans)
Death Watch Marine Sqd(10)W/Rhino)
vindicare assassin



Posted on Nov 27, 2001, 10:27 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

a rule of thumb i use...

by listy the treadhead

if any unit in your IG army is over 200pts, youve spent TOO much.

Posted on Nov 28, 2001, 11:08 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Paras drop again

by Rafale

Right, chaps, of we go into the wild blue yonder.


My paras are ready. Check them out:

http://www.geocities.com/hammerbolt.geo/gw/paratrooper_army.htm

Am still testing with friends. I intend to send this to Citadel Journal

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 8:23 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

new i forgot something first time around

by listy the treadhead

Wellbikes! where are they? or the trencharts...

and jeeps, AV 9 surely for unarmoured? mabye 10 on hte front because of the engine block. and 5 guys yes i know they could carry 5 blokes but it seems a bit odd to me as the para jeeps were realy for moving the 6pdr's and other supplies. or as medevac.

oh and dont forget to turn all your grenade launcher's into PIATs

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 10:13 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Too much...

by Rafale

I don't want to create new weapons, they'd be impossible for a (hopefull) Citadel Journal article. S6 AP4 of the GLs will have to do.

As for jeeps, I've seen pics of guys pilling up in them, so 5 is not too much. Maybe I can give 1 or 2 to the heavy weapons squads...

Bikes? Hate them, can't stand them.

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 1:45 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

nononononono

by listy the treadhead

model the grenade launcher AS PIAT's, not a new weapon, so you actualy have a strmtrooper with PIAT..

and how can you nt like wellbikes?, it would just be a ST with a movement of 12, nothing else. a folded wellbike would fit inside a canister, its about hte same size as a PIAT!
top Speed 15mph. yes its an egg whisk attatched to a pair of wheels.

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 5:27 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Humm...

by Rafale

Just calling them PIATS? Yeah, can do that...

As for bikes... no, sorry, really can't stand them

Posted on Nov 27, 2001, 1:17 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

DE hellion update

by

Hi guys,

The next exciting instalment of the Dark Eldar codex update will replace the current download as soon as the US web boyz have woken up (could be anywhere up to 24 hrs so bear with them...)

Inside you will find: Hellions deep strike, MUST hit & run, and are now armed with punishers instead of hellglaives, all for the bargain price of 22 points.

I expect people will still ask for the ability to assault on the turn they Deep Strike, but I'm not allowing it. The reason is, in Deep Strike we have a simple mechanic that everyone understands, so we would be doing the system a disservice if every time we used a standard rule, we altered it to fit that particular troop type.

I've also changed the effects of Wych weapons slightly, and decided that 12 points per model is about right.

There's a couple of other minor changes, but that's the most important stuff. We look forward to your feedback.

Cheers.

Andy H and Phil Kelly.


Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 8:09 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

They can't shoot anymore?

by

Punishers are just +1S, no save

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 11:12 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Hmmm...it's Monday, and I'm still here...

by

Wow, they haven't blocked the IP yet (they're logging and blocking frequented, non-work related IP's...in other words they're checking them).

As for everyone who asked to be a moderator...I'm not the forum owner, I can't make anyone a moderator. Since diablone's been MIA for quite some time, I doubt this board will see another any time soon.
So, I think everyone knows to be on their best behavior and ignore crap/adverts/double posts. It shouldn't be too bad. And hopefully I'll be able to get my own PC soon.

Anyway, take care guys.

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 6:19 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Plants foot firmly through throat......

by Deadite

It would help if I checked the board a little more thoroughly. Kudos to the new Mod! and WB diablone!

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 6:21 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Any News from PlagueSkaven?

by

I went to the Spanish Games Day last week and found the new miniatures for the Skaven, High Elves, Noise Marines, LOTR, Chaos Marauders (on foot & horseback), orc mercenaries w/crossbow & some necrons.

and I was wondering if you have any additional info on the skaven rules besides the ones published on Portent.
Thanx!

JÜRGEN


Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 12:58 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

And peer pressure makes it four

by Leesa the Reoccuring Harley Queen

OK GUYS LAY OFF THE EMAILS. I'm alive, I just don't game any more. I've got more business related problems that keep my life much more interesting. With no more Harleys, and Warzone pushing up the daisies, I'm pretty restricted to just have a bunch pretty painted warriors on my shelf. Love life is ok, got back with Bobby. But I'm still running a restaurant, and going grey in the process. Still keep in contact with Tabby, and Dave by proxy. I don't really have a game to talk about anymore. But thanks for the concern guys. I'll try and poke my head up on occassion. Promise. And maybe Emerald, Marissa and Trey and me can get our promised four way going if I can get some Harleys and Trey paints her marines.

Posted on Nov 25, 2001, 7:23 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Leeeeeeeeeeeesa!!

by Pablo Monty Diablo

Nice to hear from you again.

I wonder who the next old poster to pop up will be....

PMD

Posted on Nov 25, 2001, 7:49 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Wow, :) i'm all smiles now

by

Glad to see you are happy and doing well. Too bad about the grey hairs though Its really cool to see all four ladies on the board. Good God I think I'm getting misty eyed here

Posted on Nov 25, 2001, 9:06 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Wehey!

by

/wave
This just gets better and better:)

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 4:46 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Restaurant owner? Read this...

by Rafale

A local player also has a restaurant/bar. The guy is the greates fanatic of all: has 16 WFB armies and is about to start his first W40k army!!

Every 15 days, on a Thursday night he sets up 4 big tables and every one brings a painted army, then it's up to 3am playing bog battles, with the regular costumers looking over our shoulders, and we guzzling down! loots of fun...

It's good for his business: we eat/dring lots and it attracts a lot of clients.

Cheers.

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 5:07 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

*Checks outsid for the end of the world*

by

Damn, four for 4 in just a short week. Welcome back.

Yup, anytime you run your own business, your will go grey, plus the many many hours you'll put in just keeping it going.

Good luck.

carmachu

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 7:00 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Ack! Harleys and Brits (my worst nightmare come true)

by The Emerald Queen


Wow Glad to hear from you both. It is great to see that you still come around. I confess I went a good amount of time away from my beloved miniatures and I also have been playing an online game as of recently.
Dark Age of Camelot.
I will have to email Marissa and see if she is up for that foursome and maybe visit Andy Chambers and the gang to see if I can charm them into coming out with a Chapter approved Harlequin list or if I am really persuasive (puts on tight red sweater and mini skirt) we might even see a codex. (May Gork preserve us)

Trey I really hope all goes well with your apartment plans and may you find out that Dark Age is far superior to Everquest any day. and Equally as adictive.
winks and blows a kiss to all
Emerald the on her way to GW HQ Queen.

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 4:09 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Oh wondrous Orky one!

by

There is a Chapter Approved Harlequin list; in Citadel Journal #39. I'd much appreciate a better one, however, so any persuasion you can exercise on the boyz at the studio would be much appreciated.

-Ragnar

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 8:25 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

RAR!

by

Hi guys! Did you miss me?:)
Do you remember me even? lol
Got an email a few days ago that reminded me of all you guys, and made me want to come back and say hello:)
Brings a tear to my eye, seeing all the old names:)
How is everyone doing?:)


Trey

Posted on Nov 24, 2001, 8:32 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Omg, I think I'm gonna cry.....*floods*

by

Evil, evil Everquest for taking me away! I can't believe all you guys are still here:) hugs everyone I am so happy to see you all:) cries some more
I wish I atill played Warhammer enough to take part in discussion.

Trey

Posted on Nov 24, 2001, 8:35 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Welcome back my friend to the show that never ends...

by The Glen

You're still playing everquest? I'd thought you'd beat that game by now. Don't feel bad, not many people here play as much as we'd thought. I only still have Bloodbowl and Necromunda for my GW, and my Necromunda gang is primarily Void and Warzone! Just cause you don't play much any more isn't any reason to stay a stranger.

Posted on Nov 24, 2001, 11:09 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Well Hello Trey

by

Good to see you back Missed you.

Posted on Nov 25, 2001, 12:11 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

now see, thats your problem right there...

by Brother Glacius

***** Everquest? you are still playing that POS? Ugh..you poor poor woman. You should be playing Dark Age of Camelot. Much better game. If you ever try it out, I play Urik Feyborn, of the Hibernia Realm on the Galahad server.

***** Brother G.

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 9:55 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

DAoC

by

I'm not actually sure that it's available over here in the UK. I could be wrong, but my fiance was wanting to get it, and was told he couldn't

Posted on Nov 29, 2001, 6:21 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Helllooooo Trey

by Pablo Monty Diablo

Welcome back!!!!!
I just got back myself....

PMD

Posted on Nov 25, 2001, 12:24 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

How long has it been?....

by

Right, I've been away about 2 years, and haven't been playing Warhammer for about a year.

What have I missed?:)

I am still stuck in Everquest, I should imagine I will be playing that game til it goes offline. My Warhammer armies are STILL unpainted, and my poor marines are still in their boxes in pieces. I do have some friends down here (living with my fiance now, 300 miles from where I used to live) who play Warhammer too and they are bugging me to paint and play, so maybe something will happen.

I go in GW stores whenever I am near one, but there aren't too many handy ones in this area. I did see some Tau models last time though and I thought they looked pretty good, and the new Dark Elves, I have to say, kick ass.

I'm still with my Wood Elves, and I had a game recently with them. Unfortunately for me, I was playing a veteran Chaos player, who has a whole background of historical battles and whatnot behind him, so needless to say my usual dithering for 5 rounds ended up in quite a pathetic defeat. It's the armour I tell you! How are my poor archers supposed to take down a unit of Chaos Knights on horses, who only die if they roll a 1 on their saves?! IF I wound them in the first place?

I have a lot more fun with my marines when I play them, although that last time I did that was a year ago. I had great fun, about 2000points of my marines against 5000points of Imperial Guards:) That was a blast, and I have to say, my favourite troops of the day were my scouts. They took out a whole flank and the center of his force with just 2 units! (big units) Got all of his heavy armour and the basilisk, and blew up a chimera with a squad of vets in it:) I have to get those guys painted up so I can use them more:)

And in general I have to stop dithering. Staying still with an entire unit so I can maybe get off one shot with a heavy weapon is a bit silly, when I have another 7 or 8 bolters who are out of range and could be shredding his infantry. I just can't get away from my Wood Elves, stand and shoot lol

Thankfully the bloke who beat me (Dave, a great bloke) is very interested in teaching me how to fight better battles, so maybe someday I might actually put up a half decent fight.

Gotta get painting first though. My fiance and I are finally moving into our own flat soon (if the thing goes through) after living with his parents for a year. We'll be able to go online whenever we want (Hurrah!) and I will have room to paint stuff.
I shall have to get the next White Dwarf and see if there is anything interesting going on at al in the near future. I am s far behind everyone it's not funny..


Trey

Posted on Nov 25, 2001, 12:52 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Welcome back

by

Ahhh, you got sucked into Evercrack. Ha. we'll its good to have you back.

carmachu

Posted on Nov 25, 2001, 4:35 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Welcome back

by

There has been a bit of a revival lately with a bunch of old timers coming back to say hello. Please stay for a while.

Congrats on the engagement and getting your own flat(living with in-laws would be a nightmare).

Stay away from the evercrack! My buddy keeps trying to get me to play but there are so many things left to paint.

Welcome home
Scabby

Posted on Nov 25, 2001, 5:59 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Play Everquest......Play Everquest......come, on it'll be fun....

by

You can stop any time you like....../snicker

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 4:43 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

TREY!!!!!!

by

Haven't been into warhammer at all of late, so I know the feeling. Heck, haven't even had time to lurk on the board all that much. good to hear an update on your life, though really I do have to reread all of it (kinda tired at the moment, looooong week)

Hope all is well, good to see you again, and remember all you guys still thinking about you!

Tony S aka NurdNurd

Posted on Nov 25, 2001, 10:13 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Welcome back

by

Geez, it is almost like old times. If Ronin comes back to pick a fight about(er, discuss) how cheap the Tau are and the general decline in GW quality...I...just...might...(sob)...cry.

Posted on Nov 25, 2001, 10:55 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

EverCrack huh?

by

Everquest....that game should never have been created. I have spent a LONG time behind the keyboard at work playing that freaking game. I play on the Sullen Zek server as a Iskar ShadowKnight....of course /anon.

Glad to see you again.

For the Emperor, and the veteran board members,

Inquisitor Glave

Posted on Nov 25, 2001, 11:38 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

RE: Ever-Krak

by Chaplain Leviticus

Yes, this game has probably caused more people to lose spouses, jobs, friends, etc....than any other game! I know avid gamers who have wandered into the realm of Evercrack and have never been heard from again!

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 7:12 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

I am playing a skirmish WFB game

by Evil Kid

We are playing it in a city, iam planing to have a sewer system and i was wondering whether anyone had any other ideas?

Posted on Nov 24, 2001, 11:58 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

City Fight Terrain.

by

my first attempts at a ruined building for cityfight using the techniques in the book and on GW's website.



and if that doesn't work

http://heretic.topcities.com/Miniatures/Terrain/General/general.html

thanks,

Inquisitor Glave

Posted on Nov 24, 2001, 9:14 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Great job,

by

Looks pretty good.

Posted on Nov 25, 2001, 12:13 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Hows it goin?

by

Hey Everyone,
Glave gave me word that Deadite was going to have to be leaving so while setting Glave up with moderator status, I figured I would do a little catch up on what is going on around here. I myself have been extremely busy with just about everything in my life. Getting ready for the move next summer, and anything that may come up. Maybe someone could replay some memorable events?


-diablone
diablone@fastclan.com

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 6:53 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Cool

by

Glad you came by

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 8:13 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Damn, look what the cat dragged in

by

Memorible moments? Uhm, Cannoness and Emerald came back for a spell....



carmachu

Posted on Nov 23, 2001, 4:39 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Just a slight concensus

by

How many of you think the GW people are complete morons?

I was looking at the October Issue of White Dwarf #261 at the city fight battle report between the cadians and the night lords. What struck me about the article was the initial army lists. Tell me what is wrong with this:

Fast Attack:

Hellhound with a turret mounted inferno cannon, extra armour, dozer blades, smoke launchers.

IDIOT! That's all I can say.

For the Emperor,

Inquisitor Glave - currently on a purge in the UK

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 2:50 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

FAQ

by

Didn't they rule in one of their FAQs or WD that the hellhound actually got glancing hits from smoke launcher cover?

The list was pretty goofy. Thos poor Cadians didn't have a chance.

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 6:09 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

the list...

by listy the treadhead

was the best he could do i fear, as he was handed the new showcase IG army, and told do what you can.

the army's models where done for a modeling point of veiw. so it was probaly hte best he could especialy with crippling amounts WYSIWYG on all the models.

Posted on Nov 23, 2001, 4:17 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Most BR are cr$p...

by Rafale

... I allways get the impression that neither player knows how to select an army OR how to play.

And BR involving the IG are REALLY bad...

Posted on Nov 23, 2001, 8:20 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

nahhh, look at...

by listy the treadhead

.. the batrep that had DE Vs IG, in one of the first 40k3 reports, where nick davis totaly wipped out hte DE so many times they had to have him one even though it was a "re-play till the army of the month wins".

and for that we get punnished in our dex.

Posted on Nov 23, 2001, 11:03 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Never saw that one...

by Rafale

First WD I read was IG vs Orks. The idiot bought the wrong army, THEN deployed them forward, THEN used a preliminary bombardment...

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 5:01 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

that would be...

by listy the treadhead

Mr jervis johnson, showing us how NOT to play a game...like every otehr BR he's ever been in...

the one im talking about was just after 40k was new, where one of the hardcore IG players repeadly raped the DE, including hte classic moment whens huge wytch squad swepted into an full size IG platoon. or when hte ogryans had a game of "smack Da warp beast". or the realy amusing moment when a scourge squad moved up to the top of a building to take a shot at a russ with their darklances, only hte russ got to fire first..

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 10:22 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

ROFL n/t

by Rafale

DFG

Posted on Nov 28, 2001, 8:16 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

And the truth is

by

In that forementioned WH40K game Imperial Guard Vs Dark Eldar I won it hands down with the Imperial Guard, it was the first battle report where the Army of the Month being the Dark Eldar did not win. And the battle was only played once, no replays, as the result was just the conclusive.

Just wanted to clear that up for you all, and if you need any more information pretaining to any of my time at Games Workshop, the articles I wrote and Battle Reports I was priviledged to play in drop me an email at gundammsbs@yahoo.com
Domo,
Nick Davis
Webmaster & Freelance Games/Hobby Writer
http://www.fight-dice.com
http://www.alt-world.com
http://www.lncollections.com
http://www.stikshop.com



Posted on Dec 1, 2006, 10:04 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Oh yeah

by

I think at one point in every battle report you just have to stop and wonder what is going on. That Phil guy that has played a in a BR in the last 5 or 6 WDs sucks, yet he wins consistently and is a staff champ of some sort.

He won one game because the Dark Elf player decided to go with the no shooting, no offensive magic, just sit there strategy. A win against an all shooty Empire army in Albion after that. He beat 5 Giants because he got lucky with his lvl4 Grey Seer and Emisary hiding in a stone circle and blowing the Giants away. Then he got wasted by the Tau because he sat back halfthe game.

Nice track record for the staff champ. Maybe they meant the infection.

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 12:16 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Cheese Tournament

by Pablo Monty Diablo

The local game store is having a "Cheese Tournament" All rules can be used (VDR, Flyers, etc) as long as it is "legal".... 2000 points, and army comp points go towards cheese armys instead of balanced.
Basicly, the more outrageous the army, the better. Right now I am thinking of an 1800 point VDR Super (duper) heavy tank (I am calling it the "bolo" for you kieth Laumer fans out ther) and 11 SOB's 1 hq and 2 min squads inside the tank...
The tank will have mega earthshakers, lascannons, shields, 5 structure points, etc, etc...
Whaddaya think??? any suggestions????

PMD

Posted on Nov 21, 2001, 9:43 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

:) tryn' not too

by

Sounds really cool though. Are you going to model this behemouth?????

Posted on Nov 21, 2001, 11:20 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

The Super Duper Heavy Tank

by Pablo Monty Diablo

Ya, I am modeling it, I have been working on it for a while, but put it on the shelf for a few months. Just got it back off to finish it for the tourney.

PMD

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 1:30 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

It will be cool to see when your finished.

by

Ya

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 8:17 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Don't forget one small detail...

by Rafale

... in order to be legal, that super-heavy will have to be a separate detachement. Can you do that in this most-weird game?...

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 1:28 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

hows about...

by listy the treadhead

eldar??

6 dreads... 3 normal, 3 harlquin.. the Harlquin dreads count as eliets. how hte harlquins get dreads is beyound me, as they have no soul stone to put inside them.

and if your alowed multiple detachaments, better make that 12 eldar dreads..

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 2:00 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Hmm...how about

by Chaplain Leviticus

If it is a cheese tournament, why not bring Blood Angels, Necrons, or some select Eldar Kraft Worlds? Oh, thenit wouldn't be different from normal ournaments! LOL

Really tough, a cheese tournament could be fun as long as everyone comes to the game table knowing and expecting to see outragious foces!

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 7:12 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

I resent that my Blood Angels are cheap!

by The Black Knight

How so?

The +1 Strength, +1 Initiative, and +1 Attack is for ONE round in close combat only, and that is if WE charge.

Plus, don't forget, I ALWAYS have to pursue. Do you know how much trouble that gets me into, and how much enemy fire I always take?

Ever swept into Incubi, Nobs, or Genestealers before? It isn't cool.

Ever sweep right into a Space Marine squadron and have them rapid-fire about 20 shots into you? It doesn't feel good.

And I don't play Blood Angels abusively, anyway.

The only real "abusive" way to play BA's is using two Chaplains, maxing out on the D.C, using small 5-man Squads with Vet. Sergeants to try and get the free Power Weapon or Fist, and things like that.

Lame. I like flavor in my army.

LOTSA Termies, Veterans, Assault Squads, and the like! Still good in close combat, and a lot more fun! Land Raiders rolling everywhere is a load of fun!

Just knockin' ya. Not that I dislike ya or anything (it ain't that! Ya ain't that bad!) Why do ya hate Blood Angels? They're cool, and I'm glad they're better than they USED to be.

Mike at our gaming club hates my Blood Angels guts and always wants to see me lose. Also goes to show he's a cheap Eldar player that wrote his own Codex that I personally didn't think too highly of.

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 9:02 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

dont, because they are...

by listy the treadhead

and i play BA's, or used to until they became stupidly overpowered.

ever seen what a BA libarian with force weapon does to large nasty's?

Posted on Nov 23, 2001, 5:43 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Yea, hes supposed to do that.

by Khellin

A Librarian is supposed to kill big Nasties...thats his job. As it is, he's only mediocre at it.

Posted on Nov 23, 2001, 11:40 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

how can you say that???

by listy the treadhead

you'll hurt my libarians feelings!

on the turn he carges...
WS5, STH5, I5, A5, with an auto kill if anything actualy wounds the target.
thats preaty terminal to anything less than an eldar dread, and even then its dangourus. oh wait i havent finished yet, whats this guy behind him? oh its the sang high preist on a bike....

if hte sang high preist is leadign a fullsized bike scout squad then its preaty much good night to the enemy.

Posted on Nov 23, 2001, 2:26 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Sorry, I know how fragile his ego is.

by Khellin

I don't actually know the Bug stats, but I know its hard to get a wound on them in the 1st place. A Wraithlord means hitting 3 or 4, and wounding on 6s for 1 turn. Not good odds since if you fail, you will die. 3 or 4 chances to roll a 6 are not good odds. Big bugs are a bit better, but still not a sure thing. As for the SHP on bike with the scouts, not a very common character. I rarely run the SHP, and if so I use a Honor Guard for him. My army is led by a chaplain (my own fluff), so I don't even have a Librarian fig. Seems like a waste running on the bike since they now say you cannot get the extra attack for 2 CCWs. Thats 1 less attack for everyone in the squad, you fit less models in to fight, and have a smaller squad size.

Posted on Nov 23, 2001, 8:28 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

there is a methord to my madness...

by listy the treadhead

the SHP on hte bike is for two reasons.

1. if he as the exasanguator (or whjatever it is) a T5 is alot easyier to pass the tests for.

2. it alows him to keep up with alamostr any unit and alow thm the re-rolls on HTH. he can also lead the DC in lieu of the chaplin.

the bike scous well, sth, t, I:5 is not to be sneezed at, add in twin linked staonary bolters, and speed of 12" then hte terrain re-rolls and you get a VERY efective unit.

Posted on Nov 24, 2001, 12:43 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

OK, 2 things here...

by Khellin

1. Exsanguinator only works if you are NOT in base to base contact. I usually only give it to Sanguinary Priests, not the SHP. I also give them a Storm Bolter, and run them at the very back of the unit if I cheese it out ( only did it once, and it was funny ).

I also cannot in good concience use the T5 for Exsanguinator tests. I don't know if itsd legal or not, but it sure seems bad.

2. A Rhino is faster, and I never run without a Chaplain (my own fluff reasons).

Don't get me wrong, I have seen BA Scout bikes used very effectivly, I just subscribe to a different school. I will take a regular tactical squad in rhino for same hitting power, but fewer points/ lower T. Add in the fact that you don't use a FA slot, and the Tacticals get the nod any time. Shame the figs are not as cool.

Posted on Nov 24, 2001, 2:46 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

yeah???

by listy the treadhead

i know htat a SHP cant use the needle in B2B, so what?? just have him standing behind the unit to get hte re-rolls.

yes useing hte T5 for the rols is leagal AND fluffy, think about it, he isnt tired from running around hte battlefeild, so he has more enegey and can survive the loss of more blood.

rino's can be killed very easily from heavy weapon salvos, bikers can survive. personly id use the ten man rino hit first to weaken hte enemy line then hte bikers to brake it. (as they will arive slightly later)

Posted on Nov 24, 2001, 11:40 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

does anyone know....

by bob

does anyone know where i can find rules for the tau online????

Posted on Nov 21, 2001, 7:39 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Sort of...

by Pablo Monty Diablo

If you have army builder, they have all the units and special rules for them on the file you download.
www.wolflair.com (or .net, not sure)

You can download the free version, but if you have the $$$ the full version is well worth it...

PMD

Posted on Nov 21, 2001, 9:36 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

problem

by Starr

Wolf's Lair no longer support AB lite. It's not on their site anymore and the files which have the Tau in them require the latest version- which is later than the last version of AB lite.

Looks like the only way to get the rules is to buy the book.

Starr

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 12:47 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

?!?! wrong version...

by Rafale

...you CAN download AB 2 and it's upgrades from Wolf Lair. This will allow you to access the latest AB files.

But you can only do 500-point armies with the free version...

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 1:22 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Pre-emptive good-bye

by

Well, it's finally happened that my employer is cracking down on Internet use and blocking non-work related sites. It's only a matter of time that this site is blocked, since Dakka was just cut-off this afternoon (whimper). And as I don't have a computer at home, I probably won't have access soon.

So, unless Diablone comes back anytime soon, it looks like this will be another free-for-all board.

If I don't post before this happens,
Good-bye and good luck to everyone, hope to be posting again soon.

-Dead

Posted on Nov 21, 2001, 10:49 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

How is he doing that?

by Rafale

Do you know HOW he is doing that?

Some blocking systems only block site NAMES, leaving site IP ADDRESSES alone (dumb but true).

If that's the case, then you *may*be able to access using the forum's IP.

Try access Dakka using this; I think their IP is
64.226.214.163


Good luck

Posted on Nov 21, 2001, 1:41 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

can you make one of the others a mod? n/t

by listy the treadhead

n/t

Posted on Nov 21, 2001, 2:54 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Wait! before you go!!!

by Pablo Monty Diablo

Is there a way some one else could take over as moderator, just in case? It would only be a matter of time before certain types found their way here and destroyed the board...

PMD


Posted on Nov 21, 2001, 5:20 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Whoa here.

by

I think we will be ok on our own for a bit, but it will likely be necessary to have someone as Moderator. Besides which, you have been here from the beginning Deadite, so you can't go.

There are unposted rules as well as posted ones you know!


Things will work out though; they have so far.

Have a nice day, and see you soon buddy.

Posted on Nov 21, 2001, 6:49 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Yaouch thats not good, Deadite... If that happens

by

If needed I can Moderate as I have access to PC's at work and Home. I hate to see you go and I hate to see this board fall by the way side as well. Let Me Know.

Posted on Nov 21, 2001, 8:52 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

An idea...

by Rafale

..partial moderators.

2 or more people volunteer to help moderating. This would cut down on "work" time for all.

I can help. I'm a IT worker with full access

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 1:16 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Well....

by

I am pretty good friends with Diablone. I talk to him all the time. Maybe I can swing it that I too can have admin rights. Just a thought. It may not look like I am around much, but I do check the board and read all the new posts everyday.

I will talk to him about it.

For the Emperor,

Inquisitor Glave

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 1:17 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Cool, and kudos! n/t

by Deadite

...

Posted on Nov 26, 2001, 6:23 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Other forums?

by Rafale

I now there are other forums around here. Does anyone know the base URL for them?

I'm looking for WWII and Sci/Fi forums, but I'd like to see the full list, if possible.

Thanks

Posted on Nov 21, 2001, 1:30 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Help with Stormtroopers rules

by Rafale

Hi all.

I'm pounding away at my Paratroopers army but I need clarification on their rules and don't have the Codex here (I'm at work :)).

I need to know if these guys can regroup even bellow 50% and reroll Ld tests.

Thanks

Posted on Nov 20, 2001, 3:36 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

nope.

by listy the treadhead

they have deep strike and infiltrate.

Posted on Nov 20, 2001, 4:27 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Ok, thanks n/t

by Rafale

cfx

Posted on Nov 20, 2001, 4:32 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Can you guys take a look at this and tell me if its legal

by

7th Cavalry 2000 Pts - Steel Legion Army

1 Charles Trever (Command HQ - Captain) @ 252 Pts
Power Weapon; Storm Bolter
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]

1 Command Section @ [162] Pts
Meltagun (x1)

1 Medic @ [10] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon

1 Standard Bearer @ [25] Pts
Meltagun

1 Veteran Sergeant @ [12] Pts
Bolter

1 Chimera @ [100] Pts
Turret Multilaser; Hull Heavy Flamer
Extra Armour [5]
Pintle Storm Bolter [10]

1 Inquisitor @ 95 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Psycannon; Daemon Hunter; Rosarius
Power Weapon [10]

1 Commissar @ 73 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Power Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]

1 Lieutenant @ 183 Pts
Power Weapon; Storm Bolter
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]

4 Command Section @ [113] Pts
Lasgun (x2); Missile Launcher (x1); Meltagun (x1)

1 Chimera @ [90] Pts
Turret Multilaser; Hull Heavy Flamer
Extra Armour [5]

1 Commissar @ 73 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Power Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]
Refractor Field [15]

9 1rst Squad (Infantry Squad) @ 211 Pts
Commander: Lieutenant; Lasgun (x7); Heavy Bolter (x1); Meltagun (x1)

1 Preacher @ [25] Pts
Laspistol; Rosarius
Power Weapon [10]

1 Veteran Sergeant @ [24] Pts
Bolt Pistol; CC Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]

1 Chimera @ [90] Pts
Turret Multilaser; Hull Heavy Bolter
Extra Armour [5]

9 2nd Squad (Infantry Squad) @ 211 Pts
Commander: Lieutenant; Lasgun (x7); Autocannon (x1); Flamer (x1)

1 Preacher @ [25] Pts
Laspistol; Rosarius
Power Weapon [10]

1 Veteran Sergeant @ [24] Pts
Bolt Pistol; CC Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]

1 Chimera @ [90] Pts
Turret Multilaser; Hull Heavy Flamer
Extra Armour [5]

9 Armoured Fist Squad @ 236 Pts
Lasgun (x7); Lascannon (x1); Meltagun (x1); Com-Link

1 Preacher @ [25] Pts
Laspistol; Rosarius
Power Weapon [10]

1 Veteran Sergeant @ [24] Pts
Bolt Pistol; CC Weapon
Carapace Armour [5]

1 Chimera @ [100] Pts
Turret Multilaser; Hull Heavy Flamer
Extra Armour [5]
Pintle Storm Bolter [10]

9 Arbites Combat Team (aa) @ 160 Pts
Bolter (x8); Grenade Launcher (x1)

1 Proctor @ [25] Pts
Bolter
Power Weapon [10]

1 Rhino Troop Transport @ [53] Pts
Storm Bolter; Smoke Launchers

1 Eversor Assassin (as) @ 95 Pts
Eversor Temple; Executioner Pistol; Power Weapon; Meltabombs;
Neuro-Gauntlet; Combat Drugs

1 Leman Russ Battle Tank @ 170 Pts
Turret Battle Cannon; Hull Lascannon
Extra Armour [5]
Pintle Storm Bolter [10]

1 Leman Russ Vanquisher @ 239 Pts
Turret Battle Cannon; Hull Lascannon; 2 Sponson Heavy Bolters; Veterans
#Pintle Storm Bolter [0]
Extra Armour [5]
Crew Escape Mechanism [10]
Smoke Launchers [3]
Searchlight [1]

Models in Army: 65


Total Army Cost: 1998


Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 8:09 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

looks ok...

by listy the treadhead

but can you lump every one into their squads as its gettign a bit confusing foir my poor lttle brain?

Posted on Nov 19, 2001, 12:36 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Looks good to me.

by Khellin

Commisars do not count toward your HQ slots, so thats fine. I asked rules boys about assassins in a SLMIC and they included it in the FAQ. No need for a black Chimera for him to hop out of. Funny how they even left my reference to our local cheese monger in the question when they answered it in the Q&A.

Posted on Nov 20, 2001, 11:59 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Predator prey game Saturday

by

Late in the day, 5 of us are standing around wanting to play, so someone came up with preadator prey game.

Set up is like mordhiem, 18" square. Anything that didnt fit or you didnt want at the start could be in reserve.

Game objective: defend left, attack right. The catch was that you got NO points for anything you kill to your left(he's a preadator), you ONLY get points for killing anything to your right(he's your prey).

set was me(sisters) to my right was Imp guard, to his right Tau, to his right chaos(khorne/nurgle) and to his right orks(non-speed freak).

The game went barely 3 turns(store closing). Highlights for myself:

multimelta squad autokilling his ogryns(that'll teach him to try and sceen his troops), the exorcist kill his demolisher(he had it turned to deal with the tau, gotta love side/rear shots) and the seraphim making it across the board up a flank, charging the side and using krak gernades. Of course, if he had another turn, the entire guard force was turning to shoot them, but hey, thats life).

Overall its an incredibley FUN game.

carmachu

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 5:32 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Here is my BFG Tourney Fleet What do you BFG Admirals think????

by

Heres my Fleet 1500 Pts BFG RT Tourney

Tiberius Augustus Adm One extra Reroll 125 pts
aboard-
Emperor Battleship
Sovereign of the Stars

Mars Class Cruiser
Maria Alexandria

Dictator Class Cruiser
Melissa Anne

Dominator Class Cruiser
Terra's Herald

Dauntless Class Cruiser
Alexander Cameron

Dauntless Class Cruiser
Amanda Lynn

33rd Destroyer Squadron
Cobra Destoyers
Wasp
Hornet
Yellow Jacket
Bee

Total Points used 1495

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 3:11 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

BFG fleets

by Pablo Monty Diablo

I love Dauntless light cruisers, I have 4 in my fleet.... they hit VERY hard.

I like the fleet. I wish that we had enought BFg players here to have a tourney, but there are only 3 of us... sigh oh well.

PMD

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 4:15 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

I need a Citidel Journel the Arbites one #29--- Can anybody help????

by

Trade or sale which ever.
Thank you Very much

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 12:43 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Address please

by

Email me your home address and I'll pop it out next couple of days.

You can use it and /or copy it. Just return it when your done.

carmachu

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 3:20 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Hey Carm

by

What I was looking for were the rules on the Arbites

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 3:28 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Email did not make it you

by

try mine
Cuffs25@Hotmail.com

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 3:39 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

'ello All, just thought I'd drop by and say Hi and tell you about the new GW novel Execution Hour

by

Very Very cool book a BFG novel that is truely one of the best 40k stories written by the GW staffers. Very intense I am enjoying my read very much. So much so I have entered the Dakka 1500 pt BFG RT tourney.

Imperials as always.

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 12:14 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

'tis good isnt it???

by listy the treadhead

kill team is also supprisingly good as well.
i was expecting a dirty dozen rip off, and its starts out its going to.
HOWEVER once the mission starts then it starts getting good, the coomedy of the Tau transport, the horror of the kroot camp (he did that bit VERY well), the rather funky plot twist with the crisis suit (that bit did surprise me), and quite a few other parts, made it a damn good book.

i was also expecting to be able to work out hte plot from the end of the book, nad you seem to start out with a good handle on things, then the plot (surprisingly) does take some od turns. guess i didnt expect a GW staffer to get that devious.

i did however get one part right, i just NEW kage would end up with a pulse rifle....

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 12:43 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Hey Listy, Thanks I'll pick that up next time I'm out shopping.

by

Its been awhile since my fleet set sail and it will feel so good to smash some chaos scum Or rip some Eldar sails to shreds.

And not to be leaving any other Heritic out, be they Orc, Necron and now Tau scum. May the dead cold of space be their resting place.

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 12:49 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

another good one

by listy the treadhead

is deathwing, which isnt as bad as their addvertising made out. i was expecting a wedge of inferno stories, but its mostly old stuff from the last novels, including hte origanal deathwing story, which more htat makes the book worth buying...

Posted on Nov 19, 2001, 12:38 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Reading that at the moment.

by Starr

It is good, and thankfully includes all the old stories with a few new ones thrown in.

Starr

Posted on Nov 22, 2001, 12:49 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Looking for.........

by

I'm in the market for 5 either Imperial or Chaos (preferable Chaos) Squats armed with heavy bolters. If anyone can help here drop me an email.

Posted on Nov 17, 2001, 7:06 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

A smasll favor folks

by

Go over to dakka dakka page, and on the tactics page tehre's a sisters vs tau post. Check it out and answer me this:

Am I out aline? or just a bit crazy.

I'll already grant you I'm a wee bit forceful. Thanks.


I just REALLY hate arguing with a person who comes out and says tau will kcik the sisters butt, YET doesnt own, hasnt read or even seen a CA book. But is well quailifed to make a judgemnt.

carmachu

Posted on Nov 17, 2001, 7:54 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

I don't think you were being out of line

by

You made a good arguement for the sisters. I have to agree with you on the "gaurd in power armor" statement. Power armor is good period. You can put a grot in power armor and have him whoop up on some firewarriors. That 3+ save is a lot better then that guy thinks it is. The Tau have come on the battlefield and everyone is wetting thier pants about them. "Oh god that's some firepower," "Thier basic weapon is Str5 AP5 30" Rapid fire!?!?!?!?"

All of the armies have things in them that set them apart from every other army. Deal with it. The thing I am most worried is my friends Dark Eldar army with those new Wych rules you found for us. I think I am definately not going to like psycho-rabid-naked women attacking me with a 4+ invulnerability save!!! Well maybe "I" would, but my army definately would not!!!

So to recap:

Carmachu 1 Missinformed 0

For the Emperor,

Inquisitor Glave

Posted on Nov 17, 2001, 12:25 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

And today's breakin story-SOB 2, Tau 0

by

Played 2 games vs a friends Tau army, helping him test his army out.

He picked a mission, I plicked one- neither of us wanted clease of night fight.

I choose patrol or recon? Corner deployment, and away we went. Basic result? Draw/minor win for me. I managed to kill mroe than he did.

Next one, he choose suicide mission. Dominion squad was my suiciders(he said any elite or troop choice) He choose fire warriors.

End result? His commander in a battle suit left, most of my army left, I only lost one sister squad. A single seraphim squad burned/shot up most of his 20 man kroot squad, then played tag with a crisis suit squad and a fire warrior squad. The Heavy bolter retributor squad took down his broadside, the exorcist played hide and seek with anything it could find. On the other flank, the dominions lost its rhino, but with the still managed to take out the pathfinders and a fire warriorsquad. The basic sisters moved up the middle, taking out the devilfish(meltaguns) and causing basic havok and threats.

Even he agrees, sisters are a real bitch to deal with(pun intended). Acts if faith managed so vital rolls(4 causualties from poor armor save rolls resulted in either one or none with the 4+ get back up).

He's still thinking what he wants to do to make the tau better. Hopefully the hammer head and stealthsuits will be a big help when released.

carmachu

Posted on Nov 17, 2001, 6:42 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

New Wytch Rules?

by Maniacus

Just curious what the new Wytch rules are. I don't think I've run across them anywhere. Are they in the CA book?

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 10:20 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Check farther down

by

New proposed witch rules from GW. The link is farther down on the board.

carmachu

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 11:45 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

mixing Tau Drones?

by Noble

Can a battlesuit with a drone controller (hard-wired or suit support system) take one gun drone and one shield drone, or can it only have one type of drones, both shield or both gun?

Posted on Nov 16, 2001, 5:35 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

You most certainly can.

by

Yeah it reads that way and I just entered that into army builder and it works in there as well.

So, I am saying yes.


For the Emperor,

Inquisitor Glave

Posted on Nov 16, 2001, 11:48 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Ack, so bored in school, ONCE MORE! and again... again...

by Farseer

weeeeell boys and girls! Guess what! When I am bored, I created games! Yeah, I get THAT bored! Ok, I got this idea....

music plays softly

A minature game based off medievil times, with very basic rules and tactics. The stats are done as follows:
Attack/Defend/Movement(inches)/Roll need for Morale.

VERY basic, because, quite frankly, i'm sick of some of the GW crap that lets you arm a commander with 25 pounds of jock protection, 1 ton of invulerable saves, and 17.253 gallons of Super-Sports-Drink for a couple of points!

Welcome to a tactian's game I say! Basic unit, basic ranged unit, basic mounted unit, and a commander.

BUT THE REAL QUESTION!

Which is cheaper(or at least less annoying), creating my own crappy clay models (think the pre-polygon stage of computer graphics, REALLY NOT GOOD!) or succub to laziness and buy GW's overexpensive paper weights?

The details will be fleshed, but the models are the major problem.

Thank you for your time, and my Post-Historic Mind will come out with a IG army list SOON! But don't hold your breath, or else you'll die (AND ITS NOT MY FAULT, ITS HTE'S PROBLEM!!!!)! Oh well...


Farseer Signing Out...

Posted on Nov 16, 2001, 1:09 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

There are a ton of companies that make good, inexpensive minis.

by Khellin

Reaper makes great figs, and from the sound of it, will have regiment size units at a competative price. Currently, there are several lines of 25/28mm Ancients with Medievil figs. If you are really lazy, and don't feel like doing the appropriate internet searches, I can post the manufacturers I know of that offer figs you could use. Reaper tends a bit more towards the fantasy end of the spectrum, but ask The Glen, he could tell you more about their line than me. I believe "Armory" is one of the names to keep an eye out for.

Posted on Nov 16, 2001, 11:31 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

The other guys

by The Glen

This is a quick run down on the companies and figures I'm familiar with.

Chronopia has a mix of great and crappy figures. Everybody has huge muscles, even the elves. Game has serious imbalances though

Celtos has a similar situation, great figures/crappy figures, lousy rules.

Reaper right now makes game figures, D&D. They have bases molded on them, none of them a standard size. We will be releasing apocalypse next year, which is our army game. Easy to play, detailed and lots and lots of units. Undead has over 20 types of undead to play with. Marauders have over 12 types of humaniods, not one of them goblins or orks. Problem is, game is in Alpha format right now, no figures yets.

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 10:06 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

This is what im getting to...

by Farseer

LotR GW models or Reaper are the model's i'd use.

LotR, because I like the models and they are reletively inexpensive. Reaper, same.

Thanks for the help, now I gotta get crackin' on the rules. Oh well...

Farseer Signing Out...



Posted on Nov 19, 2001, 1:38 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Uno problemo

by The Glen

LoTR is a different scale. We compared them at Reaper, they are about 18-20mm, compared to 28-30 to Reaper and GW. You also need seperate shooting attacks from melee attacks.

Posted on Nov 19, 2001, 6:16 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Scale isnt the problem

by Farseer

I'm buying ALL from one scale. Back from Thanksgiving. Oh well...


Farseer Signing Out...

Posted on Nov 24, 2001, 4:25 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

okay..long shot...does anyone have an original gyrocopter?

by

***** Argh. I just lost a bid on ebay for a great deal. Dwarf Throne of Power, various old models, and an original gyrocopter. Ugh..I really wanted that. So, as this board has provided me with many other hard to find items...does anyone here have a gyrocopter they'd be willing to part with?

The original has its pilot with a soft leather, WWIIish pilots cap. The 2nd gen one had the norse winged helmet, the of course the newest has a completely new design and everything.

I'm willing to buy or trade for it. Thanks.

***** Brother Glacius

Posted on Nov 16, 2001, 9:10 AM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

I may be able to get one for you.

by Onesimus

Hi. I have the old Gyrocopter, and before I say anything else, it is the coolest of the 3. Anyway, I know this guy who I contact every once in a while who somehow has a bunch of old OOP stuff and he sells it really cheap. I got the Gyrocopter for $15 I think. Anyway, if you want, I can see if I still have is email address and ask him if he has any.

Onesimus
Itchie_Richie@Hotmail.com

Posted on Nov 18, 2001, 6:58 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

BFG Despolier class BB?

by Noble

Does anyone else have a Despoiler for BFG? I put the thing together today and couldn't help but notice that it doesn't balance on its stand at all! How have you overcome this? I'm thinking of attaching a thin black wire to the front of the base and hooking it onto the hangar bay, but that's all I've come up with so far.

Posted on Nov 15, 2001, 10:47 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

try using multiple bases

by Brother G.

***** Maybe go to a two-base stand and simply glue one to the front, and one to the back. You could mark where the exact center is for any rules.

***** Brother G.

Posted on Nov 16, 2001, 1:13 PM

Respond to this message

Goto Forum Home

Create your own forum at Network54
 Copyright © 1999-2010 Network54. All rights reserved.   Terms of Use   Privacy Statement