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Last time parents....you fund nothing , you pay for your kid

August 9 2012 at 12:44 PM
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to play youth soccer. What the club does with proceeds is up to them. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT PLAY !

 
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Re: Last time parents....you fund nothing , you pay for your kid

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August 9 2012, 12:50 PM 

For the last time Elitist fool. You are wrong, I evidently pay for my kid and yours to play and if we stop paying your kid doesn't get to play either, seeing as you don't pay at all. Scholarships for kids whose parents just can't pay I am willing to cover but not for a bunch of glory boys who are riding the system and will soon be crowing about their kids D2 scholarship.

Pay your way or shut up.

 
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Your kid must suck

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August 9 2012, 12:53 PM 


 
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How are they riding the system ?

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August 9 2012, 12:55 PM 

They tried out , made it so there it is. Your beef is with DA not my player

 
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How are they riding the system ?

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August 9 2012, 12:56 PM 

They tried out , made it so there it is. Your beef is with DA not my player

 
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Re: How are they riding the system ?

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August 9 2012, 1:16 PM 

Try posting once and not twice doesn't help your cause.

Plus my beef isn't with your kid it's with you. My kid isn't old enough to play DA but I am "supporting" the whole program so you can play for FREE. If it's so good and your player is so good why do you feel it is OK to play for free while everyone else pays and then has to bask in the glory of your the great DA.


 
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I think you just lost this argument

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August 9 2012, 5:39 PM 

Once your kid is old enough to play DA, if he makes it are you going to insist on continuing to pay for him to play? Hell no, you're going to play for free and be happy your club has a DA team and developed your kid enough to make the team.

Your money, as OP pointed out, goes to support the whole club which includes a link to DA. It also includes girls teams, are you upset that some of your money could go to those teams or their coaches? So why would you be upset with the parent of a DA player any more than you would be upset with me as a parent of a girl club member?

There are a number of very effective arguments against NASA at the moment but talking about pulling your support because DA is free for older kids is not one of them. Are you getting cheated out of training because of DA? Is your kid being lied to to keep you in Academy when he has no shot to play high level soccer as he gets older? Is DA draining resources from your kid without any say-so on your part? Are you upset with how DS is spending the club's money? Those are potential arguments that might have merit, not the one you chose here, and your anger certainly shouldn't be directed at another parent.

 
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What about girls' teams ?

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August 10 2012, 11:44 AM 

So, why would you think that girls' teams are not self-funding ? Based on overall demographics, I would say that girls' teams probably pay more than their share of club fees.
(I will leave it to others to argue if that is giving a free ride)

 
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I think the free market argument

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August 10 2012, 1:03 PM 

might indicate that if ALL of my fees went to my kid's coach, then there would be more money to buy a better quality coach, or other "features" which would benefit my kid. The fact that some of my money is not spent on my kid (no matter where it goes) would indicate that I am not getting everything I am paying for.
Theory and reality are sometimes not the same, but the math is hard to argue (right Mr. Economist) ? It is true that cost doesn't always drive quality. Some great coaches make less money than inferior coaches, however in my own life, if I am better than my colleague I am expecting to be paid more.
With all that being said, it now comes down to perceived value. If you believe that your kid is not getting adequate training, and you suspect that it is because you are paying DA "overhead", then indeed, you should move to a club with better perceived value.
Again, looping back to the start of this post - that's how the free market should work.

 
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Let me explain legally your rights ....

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August 9 2012, 2:04 PM 

Here is an actual case ... Mr. Jones hires Ace Roofers to put on a new roof of his house. Ace Roofers charges a fee of $5k. Mr. Jones signs contract products delivered new roof installed. The next day Mr. Jones sees Ace Roofers in Home Depot returning supplies they did not use and says those are the materials I paid for to do my roof and sues for 1k back. The ruling favors Ace Roofers. The service you requested is what you got. You signed a contract for $5k you got your new roof. What Ace does with the additional material are none of your concern. They have fulfilled their contract with you.

So all of you who believe that your money is used to fund DA, free rides, etc.. Your contract is fulfilled when you get the service you contracted for(uniform, tournaments, etc) What the club does with the additional funds are no concern of yours.

 
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Re: Let me explain legally your rights ....

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August 9 2012, 7:35 PM 

wrong. I did not hire the club to provide me a lesser service so i could fund someone elses.premier service. Academy all pays the same, Select pays dependant on level (classic or athena top to bottom). If then DA is a higher level then they should pay more not nothing. In addition GUA is not NASA and is owned by 3 individuals and very loosley associated with NASA. As such it is a different company and I should not be subsidising them.

 
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Well I tried to explain it to you as simple as possible..

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August 9 2012, 7:58 PM 

You may not like the results but the law is the law. You hired the club to provide a service. Whatever the price may be. This I can guarantee you is how it is contractly. You can be upset how it works out and it may seem unfair but there is no case whatsoever. If you look at your contract it says nothing about what would be considered a "lesser service". Someone could say we didn't win the state championship so you should give us our money back. Do you really think that would happen?

You don't like how the clubs spend "your money" your next option is to leave. Thats your choice. Maybe some will or won't.

 
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Re: Well I tried to explain it to you as simple as possible..

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August 9 2012, 8:42 PM 

wrong again my "contract" with the club says i pay $x for the season plus $x coaching fees plus $x for uniforms. It says nothing about subsidising a totally different company owned by individuals very loosley associated with the club i have an association with. Youre right I dont like it and will be voting woth my feet and checkbook next season.

 
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Re: Well I tried to explain it to you as simple as possible..

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August 9 2012, 9:02 PM 

Are members of the club not considered as share holders in the club not just a client? Doesnt this equate to us having a say in how money is spent. Which should mean we can question how the club money is spent.

 
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No. In both instances.

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August 10 2012, 10:08 AM 

The club is not for profit. They don't have shareholders. Also, they didn't sale you a membership. What you have is a contract for services. The service that they provide is coaches, uniforms, fields,

 
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That's the great thing about AFU

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August 9 2012, 2:14 PM 

We don't have to pay to support the DA welfare state.

 
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GSA top players dont pay anyway and there is no DA

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August 9 2012, 12:51 PM 

Parents drive a Lexus with Obama stickers on back while averagr kids on teams who will later be replaced pay $1,000 plus a year. Stop your bitchin, if you dont like dont play

 
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Lexus with Obama Sticker

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August 9 2012, 12:55 PM 

Thats a new one

 
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Well, George Soros probably drives something nicer.

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August 9 2012, 12:59 PM 


 
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Probably a Hummer while on EBT

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August 9 2012, 1:02 PM 


 
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Wow that's going to far...

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August 9 2012, 1:45 PM 

Be brave and put your name to it. Everyone who supports Obama are not on welfare you ignorant bastard. I am in the top 1% income, drive a Mercedes 550, and live in a million plus home. I supported him 4 years ago and will support him in November.

 
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If I had your money, I might vote for BO, too.

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August 9 2012, 1:56 PM 

As it is, I can't afford him.

 
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Let me guess - You are employed by the Media

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August 9 2012, 2:18 PM 

or you are an Attorney

 
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What does that matter?

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August 9 2012, 3:10 PM 

Anyway, Vanderbilt Economics and Finance, Harvard JD,MBA.

 
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The Liberal Elite needs to suppress the poor to continue their lifestyle

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August 9 2012, 5:15 PM 

thats why

 
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No we don't.

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August 9 2012, 8:04 PM 

We realize that those who are in a position to give should do so. We don't believe that "I got mine you get yours" mentality. By the way I don't consider myself a liberal elitist. I consider myself a hard working American who is living the dream and would live for others to join me. And don't mind putting my money where my mouth is.

 
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You believe in From each according to his ability, to each according to his need

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August 10 2012, 1:51 PM 

You could have help Karl Marx write the Communist Manifesto

 
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Re: Probably a Hummer while on EBT

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August 9 2012, 2:20 PM 

they don't make H3's anymore so they are now cheap

 
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Meaning what??

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August 9 2012, 3:58 PM 

???

 
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Your attitude leaves much to be desired and point in fact

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August 9 2012, 3:14 PM 

The club's members are shareholders and the club is a non-profit so IN FACT IT IS OUR F'ING BUSINESS. Put that in your pipe and smoke you.


 
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"Put that in your pipe and smoke you" hahahahaha

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August 9 2012, 5:32 PM 


 
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Obviously you don't understand.. Let me explain

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August 9 2012, 7:42 PM 

You can't be a shareholder "which means you "share on profits and losses". In a not for profit business. Keep trying.

 
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