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OMG Kevin Kim Qualified!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fake a'mericanMay 23 2004 at 5:07 PM | Mank (no login) from IP address 152.163.252.198 |
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Anonymous (no login) 12.158.122.123 | Re: Kevin Kim IS AN AMERICAN!!!! | May 23 2004, 5:22 PM |
America is a GREAT melting pot of most nationalities from around the world. Americans of Korean ancestories are 100% Americans! We do not distinguish on degrees of Americanization. You shouldn't do so either. All Americans ancestories come from somewhere. We have European-Americans, Asian-Americans, African-American, Latin-Americans, Eskimo-Americans, Aussie-Americans, Middle East-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Cuban-Americans, and yes Native-Americans. But what we ALL have in common is whether we are born in the USA or are a naturalized citizen, is that we are ALL 100% AMERICANS!!!!
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Anonymous (no login) 62.203.227.207 | Re: Kevin Kim IS AN AMERICAN!!!! | May 23 2004, 6:17 PM |
I agree, only that dumb-ass Michael Moore I would not qualify as an american. He should apply for French citizenship. |
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Anonymous (no login) 68.230.186.81 | I respectfully disagree. | May 23 2004, 10:13 PM |
Michael Moores documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 won the Cannes Film Festival prize for best film. It obviosely resonated with a large audience. He is dissillusioned with certain parts of the administration, that does not make him unpatriotic or unamerican. One of the reasons America is so great, and im sure Moore is aware of this, is the freedom to voice disillusionment and be protected by the right to free speech. Perhaps your previous comment is precisely the type of rhetoric that he is voicing his opinion against. That of people with conservative views who call those that disagree with the agenda and foreign policy of the Bush administration unpatriotic and unamerican.
... by the way who thinks florian mayer is a good spoiler at the french? |
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Ziggy (no login) 195.244.164.242 | Re: Kevin Kim IS AN AMERICAN!!!! | May 24 2004, 1:31 AM |
Moore is probably the most patriotic american. His all life is turned against Bush because, as an american citizen, he refuses to see his country kill for the only benefit of Mr Bush and his friends.
Moore still think America should be view as the biggest democracy and not as the biggest fear of the third-world. |
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Anonymous (no login) 68.102.199.82 | Award!!!!!! | May 23 2004, 10:32 PM |
"We do not distinguish on degrees of Americanization. "
Award to best joke of the decade |
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Anonymous (no login) 12.158.106.231 | Re: Award!!! | May 29 2004, 9:18 AM |
Mock it if you like; but it is true!!! Unlike the French, we respect everyone in our Country and try to respect all other nationalities. You should try it sometime!!! | |
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Anonymous (no login) 198.81.26.44 | Re: OMG Kevin Kim Qualified!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fake a'merican | May 24 2004, 12:45 AM |
Kevin Kim was born in America, that makes him as American as Apple Pie, as American as Michael Chang...just not as good.
Word has it that Kevin Kim conversed in ENGLISH with born-again-American Alex "Kim" Kim when they were on the national team together...oh my f-ng God, NO WAY! ...way.
Hard to believe, huh?
Yes, it's true Kevin Kim is multi-talented. Qualifies for the French and speaks English in the foreign land of France. I hear he's gonna lay the smackdown down on Grosjean in English, and Grosjean won't know what hit him.
Kevin Kim is a proud American so lay off him you troll. |
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Anonymous (no login) 213.118.141.133 | Re: OMG Kevin Kim Qualified!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fake a'merican | May 24 2004, 6:22 AM |
do you americans realize that here in Europe we all think that Bush is an idiot. I just can not believe that in the polls Bush still has almost 50%. How in the name of god can you vote for him, after he started a war with false reasons. said the war was over, while it is still going on at this time. And what about the great pictures with the sweet dogs, and the very friendly US soldiers.
If something like that happened in Europe (for example : Chirac starts stupid war against Iraq, hundreds of soldiers get killed. With a great smile he says : war is over. and there are french soldiers humiliating iraqies) well in that case I'm 100% sure that Chirac was finished, he wouldn't get many votes and everyone would hate him.
But oh no, not with bush, he's our hero, he does everything for the US, he is so great...
when will you americans realize this?
Long live Michael Moore!
greetz from Belgium
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Anonymous (no login) 213.118.141.133 | Bush is an idiot | May 24 2004, 6:22 AM |
do you americans realize that here in Europe we all think that Bush is an idiot. I just can not believe that in the polls Bush still has almost 50%. How in the name of god can you vote for him, after he started a war with false reasons. said the war was over, while it is still going on at this time. And what about the great pictures with the sweet dogs, and the very friendly US soldiers.
If something like that happened in Europe (for example : Chirac starts stupid war against Iraq, hundreds of soldiers get killed. With a great smile he says : war is over. and there are french soldiers humiliating iraqies) well in that case I'm 100% sure that Chirac was finished, he wouldn't get many votes and everyone would hate him.
But oh no, not with bush, he's our hero, he does everything for the US, he is so great...
when will you americans realize this?
Long live Michael Moore!
greetz from Belgium
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Anonymous (no login) 62.202.83.73 | I won't talk about Belgium & King Baudoin | May 24 2004, 7:11 AM |
Yeah, well what about the gross human right abuses that Belgium did when it had Congo as its colony? Millions of congolese died because of the terrible admin. of King Baudoin. Lets also include Rwanda & Burindi where the Belgians encouraged tribalism amongst Hutus & Tutsis. What an idiot your king was. I can't belive the Belgians are stupid enough to still support a monarchist system. Bush may be an idiot but so are your Belgian rulers. Thank ylou for letting us know where you came from. |
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Sébastien (no login) 130.115.113.100 | Re: I won't talk about Belgium & King Baudoin | May 24 2004, 7:50 AM |
While not Belgian myself, you seem to miss the point. Monarchies in Europe are mostly ceremonial, and monarchs have (hardly) any political power left.
National policies are determined by elected governments, and are only attributed to a monarch in name. |
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Anonymous (no login) 24.49.253.108 | Re: I won't talk about Belgium & King Baudoin | May 24 2004, 11:10 AM |
i was born in europe and have lived in the US since i was 4. i go to europe every summer and i must say i enjoy my time there. i also must say that the US is the best country i have ever been to in my opinion. the thing i love about the US is that we are very open to all cultures and ideas here. i for one don't agree with bush but i still love this country. i also must say i cannot stand the french because they are so closed minded and are a bunch of pussies. here in the US we might not like bush but when people **** with us we aren't gonna run away we stand up for ourselves. so bash the US all you want but we could care less cause you pricks are just jealous. i say we cause i am a US citizen myself and here i am seen that way. if it was reverse in europe i would get the bad looks like you all do to nauralized africans, muslims, indians, etc. basically what i'm saying is europe is a beautiful and fun place but the people are ****s especially the french. |
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Anonymous (no login) 193.247.39.42 | Re: I won't talk about Belgium & King Baudoin | May 24 2004, 11:13 AM |
Yes you are right. Royal family or not, the Belgians are responsible for the mismanagement of their colonies up to the point when they became independant. I'm not just saying this becaause that guy was being provocative but it's a fact. Mobutu sese seko N zanga and his cronies are not the only ones responsible for the misery inflicted on the Congolese. Unlike the British with their colonies such as India, the Belgians fostered ethnic division & could care less how the countries were governed once they left. There was no smooth transition & King Baudoin did not have the wisdom of King Juan Carlos. So I laugh when the Belgian criticizes (rightfully or not) Bush & then tells us where he comes from. |
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Anonymous (no login) 193.247.39.42 | Re: I won't talk about Belgium & King Baudoin | May 24 2004, 11:14 AM |
Yes you are right. Royal family or not, the Belgians are responsible for the mismanagement of their colonies up to the point when they became independant. I'm not just saying this becaause that guy was being provocative but it's a fact. Mobutu sese seko N zanga and his cronies are not the only ones responsible for the misery inflicted on the Congolese. Unlike the British with their colonies such as India, the Belgians fostered ethnic division & could care less how the countries were governed once they left. There was no smooth transition & King Baudoin did not have the wisdom of King Juan Carlos. So I laugh when the Belgian criticizes (rightfully or not) Bush & then tells us where he comes from. Last but not least i'm Swiss so one can't accuse me of being an american right-winger. |
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Anonymous (no login) 65.207.100.4 | Re: I won't talk about Belgium & King Baudoin | May 24 2004, 1:42 PM |
Message to the rest of the world from the US: You have been warned, your either with us or against us! |
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Anonymous (no login) 205.217.105.2 |
what the hell does this mean? " with us or against us"... Get a life. |
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Anonymous (no login) 65.207.100.4 | IMPORTANT MESSAGE | May 24 2004, 1:51 PM |
Message to the rest of the world from the US: You have been warned, your either with us or against us! |
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Anonymous (no login) 205.217.105.2 | This is an idiotic comment at best | May 24 2004, 2:07 PM |
just because we are against the policy of the u.s. around the world does not mean we are against America, read a book or two, learn something, then reply with an intelligent response. |
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Anonymous (no login) 65.207.100.4 | Re: IMPORTANT MESSAGE | May 24 2004, 3:03 PM |
Well, I don't think its right to call that inappropriate or anything. The United States was attacked by Middle Eastern terrorists on 9/11, and the country rallied around President Bush to end this sort of thing. Most of the people posting here hate the US and would like to see another 9/11 attack on US soil. So I agree, your either with us or against us. Or should the US roll over like dogs just like the French did during WWII. |
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Anonymous (no login) 205.217.105.2 | Im a proud American, but here is my response... | May 24 2004, 4:32 PM |
I am actually a muslim american tennis player. I was born and raised here in the states. I was just as disgusted as the next person at the events that took place on september 11th by cowards who wanted to kill thousands of innocent men, women and children. It is my opinion that the appropriate response was to attack the root of the problem, which originated in Afghanistan under the Taliban, the breeding ground for radical and hateful thinking. However, the war in Iraq was completely different. What many people do not realize is that Osama Bin Ladin actually hated Saddam Hussein and offered the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to kill him with the help of 5000 of his own soldiers. The Kingdom rejected the offer.
However, the rhetoric of the Bush Administration links them together as if they were in cohorts...granted they are both evil people. This is my problem with the U.S. response. I firmly believe that we should defend ourselves when necessary, but in my humble opinion this was an unessecary war based on false pretenses that will cause an influx of terrorists who want September 11th to happen all over again, God forbid. So although we are trying to eliminate terrorists, we may have just created a whole new generation of them as a result of our decision to go to Iraq... Secondly and i will make this short, how can we claim to be mediators of the situation in Israel and Palestine when we clearly favor Israel and are extremely biased. This is another point of issue between the rest of the world and the U.S. |
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Anonymous (no login) 62.203.227.157 | Re: Im a proud American, but here is my response... | May 24 2004, 6:11 PM |
To the Muslim person- You explain your point of view very well. Your remarks are far more intelligent than that idiot Belgian & the person who is saying if people are for the U.S. or against it. I do realize that some people are just being provacative. Yes, Bush tried to link Iraq with Afghanistan. Most nations, including Islamic ones did support the U.S. against its fight against the Taliban. Bush and co. brought about wrong arguments when they said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruct & that's why Iraq had to be attacked. But remember, the Clinton admin. ensured that the embargo against Iraq was still in effect despite Iraq saying that they had no more of these weapons. What I find amusing is that absolutely no blame is shouldered upon the Clinton admin for that & how many Iraqis died as result of sanctions? I on my part support Bush's actions in Iraq because the whole Middle East is unstable. How many terrorist attacks have originated from that area? One would say that its is because of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and I will respond by saying bull***. Are non Muslims and non-minorities treated well in these regions, Israel conflict or not. This conflict is an excuse for all the ill-wills that are happening in the region. I on my part wants to see an independant palestinian state next to an Israeli one but the area needs regime change and start with the most dsyfunctional one, Iraq.
I would love to get your response on the conflict in Darfur, Sudan where non-arab muslims are being killed and chased out by arab-muslims. I have a muslim friend who tells me that muslims in general are not concerned about this conflict because it is 'a disagreement amongst brothers' So Muslims are concerned about Bosnia, Iraq, Kashmir & Chechnya but not Kurdistan, Darfur, Aceh and other conflicts that involve only muslims.
See my remarks on the trashier SteveG message board on that clown Moore who claims to be non-partizan and even quotes repulican President. Its titled 'Moore wins at Cannes' |
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Anonymous (no login) 68.230.186.81 | Thoughts on last post, sudan, and terrorism. | May 24 2004, 7:08 PM |
Thanks for your response to my message. It is a known fact that significant terrorist activities have originated from locales in the Middle East/Arab World. As a muslim it is not something that i am particularly proud of. However, i also feel that what falls under the classification of terrorism is very subjective. While bombing a cafe with innocent people is terrorism, it is my opinion that bulldozing houses with people inside, tearing down hundred year old olive trees i.e. sustenance for many many Palestinians, and firing missiles into crowds and ignoring civilian casualties is also terrorism.
Consider if you will a common American response to terrorism, especially by the Bush Administration, I am not talking about a military response but more of a theoretical one. It is said repeatedly that Iraq is ready for a Democracy and so are many other countries in the Arab World. This is a weak argument because our closest allies in the middle east are not democracies, they are kingdoms. Saudi Arabia is a prime example...17 of the hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia. Why haven't Geoge Bush, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld pressed with the same fever pitch for democracy in Saudi Arabia? Its because if a democracy were pushed for, let alone established in Saudi Arabia, our relations with the Saudi Kingdom would be severely injured, thus jeapordizing the largest oil reserves in the world and exacerbating our energy crisis. This is hypocracy for sake of national gain.
Lastly in Sudan the fighting between muslims and non muslims extends beyond religion and to class, as southerners who are typically less priveledged and Christian have been revolting against the power wielding northerners who also happen to be Muslim for two decades. In any case Muslim fanatics in any country have little tolerance for non-Muslims....However, the same is said for some Jews in Israel and certain Christian denominations in Ireland. Intolerance is not uniquely a Muslim problem or an inter- Muslim problem, its a human problem. However the more recent events have made it seem as such.
Anyways, sorry for this admittedly long and perhaps tedious response, hope it gave my opinion clearly and potentially informed some people. I realize this is a tennis website, with that being said, i feel pretty good because in my first post i said Florian Mayer was my spoiler for the tourney and he just upset Gonzalez...
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Anonymous (no login) 62.203.227.157 | Re: Thoughts on last post, sudan, and terrorism. | May 24 2004, 7:18 PM |
hi again. I'm a little sleepy ( I live in Europe) and have to go to sleep. But Bush should have acted multilaterally. I believe that Israeli-Plastenian should forcabily be solved. U.S. should stop being so pro-Israeli and ensure that all of West Bank & Gaza becomes an independant state. There are of course many Muslim nations in the world that are doing great like Malaysia, Turkey, U.A.E and perhaps even Iran. I can't add more I really have to sleep
I responded to Wizard saying that his dark horses should be Mayer, Monaco and Almagro. looks like that is going to be the case. |
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steve (no login) 192.31.88.164 | Re: Thoughts on last post, sudan, and terrorism. | May 24 2004, 11:48 PM |
The US has a very strong and powerful group of Jewish citizens who have both financial and political strength to influence our foreign policy decisions. I highly doubt our stance towards Israel is changing any in the near future unless Israel really steps over the bounds. |
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Rico (no login) 205.188.116.135 | Paint the White House Black! | May 25 2004, 12:52 AM |
Cheers to a president who spends a billion dollars on his campaign. |
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Ziggy (no login) 195.244.164.242 | Re: Im a proud American, but here is my response... | May 25 2004, 1:28 AM |
"I on my part support Bush's actions in Iraq because the whole Middle East is unstable. "
That's what you say and that's a complete contradiction because Bush's actions cause more unstability in the era and will provoke a growth of american hate in the muslims people so it's an open door to another 9/11. Exactly the opposit of what Bush said he wants (but we all know what are is exact reasons, isn't it ?)
So if you really want to help the era to be more stable and if you don't want to see another 9/11 on us soil, vote for kerry in november. |
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Anonymous (no login) 213.118.142.2 | answer from belgium | May 25 2004, 4:10 AM |
ok,here's "the loser" from belgium again.
Well the thing you said about King Baudoin, it indeed is partially true. And I'm not proud of it. But indeed, like somebody else mentionned, it's a different story, cause Belgium is a monarchy, which the US are not. And I hope you know that there was much protest here in Belgium on some of the actions of the king.
But back to the US. I'm not saying I hate the US, I'm not saying I think you're losers or idiots.
It's just that I can not understand how somebody could vote again for Bush? (in the polls he gets almost 50%). Could you try and explain this to me?
Just read the newspaper today, and it was about the marriage the americans bombed. They denied everything, but unfortunally it was filmed. Always the same lies and playing games... over and over again.
And I'm sorry to say it. But everybody who will vote for Bush in October/Novermber, I will see him/her as an idiot. I'm just 19, but I have the feeling that I'm a lot smarter than many americans. Can't you see what kind of man Bush is? It is pretty obvous though...
Just think about some of these things
- Do you think Bush had the right to start the war?
- Did he use false reasons on purpose?
- Do you consider the war as being finished?
- The humiliations of the Iraqies?!?
- Is Iraq = Taliban?
well,my answers are.
NO
YES
NO (Although acoording to bush it is long finished)
DISGUSTING REALLY (hellow it is the 21st century)
NO
now you understand why I think Bush-voters are idiots?
And again, I don't dislike the US, I would love to go there one day, but not as long as you guys have a donkey as president.
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Mikola (no login) 62.203.227.157 | apology to the Belgian fellow | May 25 2004, 7:16 AM |
hi. I did not call you a loser. What I don't appreciate is so many people are crushing Bush for what he is doing. I live in Europe & have Swiss citizenship, although I have origins throughout the world. I guess I can be labelled pro-U.S. But I support women's right to abortion and disapprove of U.S.'s policy towards Cuba, Israel and even N. Korea where they are not even making an effort to dialogue with the regime. Iraq was a highly unstable area. Sanctions were imposed before W was in power beacuse it was thought that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Since this is a tennis site I don't want to write too much on the subject. But I agree with one of the readers who says that it may be better for americans to elect kerry.
As for Belgium its a great nation. A pity that there is friction between Wallons and Flamands. Actually Baudoin is not that bad. It is the U.S. who supported Mobutu coming to power and who wanted Lumumba to be deposed. Anway I feel that Congo is too big to be stable. |
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Anonymous (no login) 65.207.100.4 | Re: answer from belgium | May 25 2004, 8:11 AM |
To the belgian dip s-h-i-t, you don't know squat about america so why don't you shut your trap with the Bush bashing. At least we have a real leader, I have no idea who the leader of Belgium is - its probably Xavier Malisse after listening to you. Please, don't come to this country, we don't need any more Euro trash. I'm so sick of this left wing propaganda I've been reading on this site. Here is my response to the questions posed by the spineless belgian:
- Do you think Bush had the right to start the war?
Yes, and please stop referring to it like one guy started the war - Bush had the backing of the American people.
- Did he use false reasons on purpose?
Nope, Iraq violated all of the propositions of their UN agreement.
- Do you consider the war as being finished?
Yes the war is over, we won. But there is an element of terrorists who are trying to disturb the reconstruction. As most of you Europeans know, this takes time.
- The humiliations of the Iraqies?!?
Well, I'm outraged over the outrage. First off, these prisoners are the scum of the earth. And secondly, the abuse wasn't that bad, I've seen worst things at a college fraternity pledge party (most of foreigners don't know what this means).
- Is Iraq = Taliban?
yes, I don't make distinctions - the taliban are terrorists and Iraq harbored them.
Peace out, from the USA. |
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Anonymous (no login) 131.94.89.161 | Re: answer from belgium | May 25 2004, 9:05 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) 205.217.105.2 | My Response | May 25 2004, 9:55 AM |
Their is a significant difference between the Taliban and the people of Iraq. The taliban actually hates Saddam Hussein and so does Osama Bin Ladin. Bin Ladin offered to personally kill Hussein in 1990 but his offer was rejected by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. So their is a big difference between them. Secondly the War was started unilaterally and without the support of the United Nations. But... in last nights speech Bush stated that America has seeked U.N. approval every step of the way.This is false. Also, All prisoners in Iraq are not the scum of the earth, certainly some of them are. But most are simply opposed to having a U.S. occupation and have been taken into custody. And the treatment of them by U.S. soldiers is an embarressment to the United States of America and what we stand for. When weapons of mass destruction werent found that is precisely why we said the war was still worth it... So that there will be no more torture by Saddam and his thugs... Now pictures of our soldiers are shown doing the same things...Hypocracy. Dont come with that crap about how that stuff happens at frat parties. Does that justify any sort of humiliation? I am not bashing Bush for the sake of bashing him. There are many others who organized this war like Wolfowitz, Perle, Rumsfeld, and Cheney. I just see flaws with the shape that the war on terror has taken. That being said if our troops are over there, it is important to support them in their peace keeping mission. Hopefully they will get the job done, help rebuild a peaceful democratic Iraq and then get out. want to read my other thoughts? look at the first post that says thoughts on terrorism, sudan, etc...... |
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The Wizard (no login) 151.141.112.115 | Re: answer from belgium | May 25 2004, 9:12 AM |
"... not as long as you have a donkey for president."
Comparing Bush to a donkey is an insult to donkeys. They're FAR more intelligent and wholly capable of running this country than "Dub" is. I never thought anyone would top Reagan in the stupidity department, but "Dub" manages to do it on a daily basis.
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Anonymous (no login) 65.207.100.4 | Re: IMPORTANT MESSAGE | May 26 2004, 9:37 AM |
Yeah, I like it, "with us or against us." Also, who cares what the socialist United Nations thinks, America is bigger than the UN anyway. |
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Anonymous (no login) 62.203.104.139 | Amensty Int. a big hoax! | May 26 2004, 1:54 PM |
Amnesty int. makes me laugh. They said that presently the situation in Iraq is the worst in the world and labeled the U.S. as major abusers of human rights. What they failed to notice is that more people have died in darfur, Sudan (10,000 dead, 1 million displaced) than in Iraq where Iraq death toll is around 5'000. That slut, Irene Khan-head of Amenesty took the liberies to criticize U.S. and barely talked about the Sudanese gov. arming arab militias to kill and do ethnic cleansing. With this attitude people wonder why U.S. does not support Int. justice tribunal in Brussels. If that had occured there would have been an 'inquisition' against american troops and never mind the Iraqi thugs who kill italian and U.S. hostages. Look, Amrican military are not saints but violence breeds violence. Finally, I'm almost certain that those troops who committ those heidious acts did it volunteerily and were not obliged to do so by higher hierarchy. Historically, abuses happen with every war & americans are not holier than thou. |
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