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  • Re: Dear Judge Murray:

    • Posted Jun 27, 2005 7:12 AM

        The church of Christ has generally taught that once we become christians, we somehow magically become non-sinners with all truth. The mainline cofc has been so arrogant for so long, they seem to forget that it was the BLOOD of Jesus which saves us. Many act as though they are so self-righteous, that they really saved themselfs by their own goodness. After we have obeyed the five step plan then the burden to stay saved is placed on our ability to not sin anymore. It would have been better if they were to have drowned in the baptitstry, which is their best chance to stay saved.
      Well, Judge, I will say that is a very powerful lie on all counts. However, did someone say Pantego Bible Church? Just click on this and you will see the meaning of LEGALISTIC TRAFFICK:

      http://www.pantego.org/index_believe.cfm

      They will TAKE you and your money: online, credit card! No Church of Christ would do THAT. Most ministries do a disclaimer saying that non-members are NOT asked to give.

      They have a Prayer and Fasting thingy: Only a LEGALIST could traffic on the idea that FASTING is an act of worship or something you DO. Fasting is someting you DON'T DO when you are occupied with other things.

      They have a CONSTITUTION: Is that legal or what?

      http://www.pantego.org/about_pbc/pbc_constitution_doctrine.htm

      Sounds like a SECULAR INSTITUTION: the church HAS NONE of these functions except to be a SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE. Sounds highly FEMALE run.

      Church Membership

      I. Qualification

      The membership of the church shall consist of individuals who have confessed the Lord Jesus Christ as their personal Savior, accepted the doctrinal statement contained herein in its entirety, agreed to be governed by this Constitution, and approved for membership upon examination by the Board members.

      They have a picture of a GUITARIST as a worship minister? Wow! Words with endings like guitarIST are interchangeably in the Greek and Latin resources with PARASITE. The Apostolic Constitutions of the CHURCH OF CHRIST outlawed guitarISTS from membership.
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