Lucifer [Zoe] brought the INSTRUMENTS into the GARDEN: you figure.
Posted Sep 28, 2007 10:16 AM
Jesus identified the SONS OF THE DEVIL as those who "spoke on their own." The Crooked generation Jesus and Paul warned about were the "skolion singers" who engaged in musicl competiton -- just like racing to "do my part best and loudest." The Generation (Race) of Vipers John refused to baptized hung on as the Abomination of Desolation when the Kenites or Cainites replaced the faithful Israelites to engage in the musical, sexual and perverted "worship" in the temple where any Levite would be executed. This is well defined in Maccabees and many other ancient contemporaneous writings: Jesus refused to preach the gospel to them. All known history notes that they are uniquely THE DEVIL'S INSTRUMENTS.
Here you will see the NEW STYLE WORSHIP "theaters for holy entertainment" defined in detail. I agree with Jesus, John, Peter and Jude.
QUESTION Tell me where it says definitively not to use instruments when worshiping God. Tell me where it says definitively that you can only worship God ONE way and there is NO other way. I know what you will tell me, and it is all opinion or your interpretation, which is not definitive.
God is not worshipped in houses or by the works of human hands. A musical instrument is defined as a "machine for doing hard work" and the in connection with warfare and the same shock and awe used by pagan religions to fool the simple." A carnal weapon and a lifeless instrument have some of the same meaning.
Jesus said that the only PLACE God will accept you is in the NEW place of the human spirit in contrast to the PLACES of the temples.
Paul said that the converts now worshipped IN THE SPIRIT in contrast to IN THE FLESH. The provision of Jesus Christ observed by Paul and the historic church warned that OUTSIDE the DOGS lurked around any group of worshippers. The dogs were Cynics and others IDENTIFIED by their howling style of "praise singing." This was like the coyotes down the hill or the wolves looking for a nesting partner for the night.
The DOGS and SORCERERS are lumped together as "burnable" and John in Revelation 18 identifies the lusted after FRUITS and slick speakers, singers and instrument players as SORCERERS who had deceived the whole world.
Therefore when you JUDGE a child as worshipping as lifting his hands you may see a child already MARKED gender wise or being "sorcerized" by the "beat" and the expectation. You will never be an insider as opposed to "Assimilated" or the "intellectual leaders" noted by Hitler as opposed to the HUMAN MATERIAL if you do not GOOSE CLAP to affirm the leader of the PACK. That is historical Cave of the Bear Clan from the most ancient knowledge. The child is suffering Child Abuse and probably being mollested because music intends to stroke all of your pleasure centers--all of them!
The Spirit OF Christ spoke only through the Prophets and Apostles. Unless you deliberately lie for your own profit, you cannot miss the radical association between Satan, warriors, sacrificial exorcists, prostitutes and Sodomites who plagued ALL sacrificial temples. Here is a bit of Romans 15 which is one of the NOT MUSICAL passages none of the "scholars" ever read. If it is long be happy that I will not hold out my hand as a robber.
I want to expand on just a few ideas from the Romans 14-15 passage: In Romans 14 Paul outlawed letting the Roman SECTS dialog in the assembly. They would be Market-Place religions marked by DIET. However, like a church sign, that identified them all as addicted to music to "make the spirits come." Without dipping his pen, in Romans 15 Paul defined the assembly to EXCLUDE self-pleasure meaning all of the performing arts; and he INCLUDED the very definition of synagogue or ekklesia as "a school of the Bible" only.
Similar passages from Genesis to Revelation and in all known literature MARK the perverted pagans as using music to create AROUSAL and no scholar doubts the Religion-means-Sexuality connection. Impure religion or Threskia, which is EXCLUDED by INCLUDING right living and social justice, was invented by Orhpheus and the Lesbian singers-musicians. They were MARKED as having taken Homer's EPIC poetry and perverted it to LYRIC and then performed musically. As in the Vineyard, just before "giving of substance" the last ACT was using music to bring on a SEXUAL-LIKE CLIMACTIC EXPERIENCE with the Spirit. That is aka New Wineskins.
I am not sure anyone would need a LAW to keep from doing that which is disruptive, divisive and prevents the role of being "a school of the Bible." If even singing added about 373 in a few places was divisive why would you want to add instruments which are "premeditated" to sow discord and the "we think the losses are worth the effort"?
Rom 15:1 WE then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
Music HURTS or causes PANIC which the vipers sell as the SPIRIT inside. That is why you don't ABUSE or mollest people who do not hear "churchy" (voodoo derived) singing as pleasant but as ABRADING which is the very root meaning of PSALLO "to grind into a fine powder."
"Please self" is a concept which includes the "laded burden" Jesus died to remove meaning "creation of spiritual anxiety through religious rituals."
G700 aresky ar-es'-ko Probably from G142 (through the idea of exciting emotion); to be agreeable (or by implication to seek to be so: please.
G142 airo ah'ee-ro A primary verb; to lift; by implication to take up or away; figuratively to raise (the voice), keep in suspense (the mind); specifically to sail away (that is, weigh anchor); by Hebraism (compare [ H5375 ]) to expiate sin: away with, bear (up), carry, lift up, loose, make to doubt, put away, remove, take (AWAY, up).
This connects to the word AEIDO and HERESY: no one imposes music on a peaceable church who does NOT intend to "lift you up (mentally) in order to CARRY YOU AWAY for his / her / its OWN USES. A Demagogue "appeases the masses by using the popular arts." Both the Greek and Latin word outlaws ALL performing arts because that MARKS the meaning of Hypocrite. All of the arousal singing and instrumental words are defined as enchantment or sorcery as did John in Revelation 18. We don't need a law to command us not to be a heretic or sorcery. Jesus pointed to Isaiah and Ezekiel 33 to identify the Scribes and Hypocrites (professionals only) by identifying rhetoricians, singers and instrument players. You don't NEED a law to keep from joining yourself to a church turned into a "theater for holy entertainment" meaning the Hypocritic or Histrionic arts.
There are several PSALLO words: the two most important ones are rooted in warfare and perverted seduction. One includes he idea of "hedonistic" men.
The word "psallo" used to justify deliberately sowing discord is NEVER a musical term: it means to pluck or tear or pull away. It is primarily a warfare word as in PLUCKING the bow to send a singing arrow into a literal heart. Secondly, it is a woud SPECIFICIALLY dedicated to the polluted rope they used to MARK people who dallied around the marketplace--where Jesus consigned the "pipers, singers and dancers"--and FORCE them into the EKKLESIA which permitted SPEAKING only and no entertainment. Thirdly, because Apollo (Abaddon) used his lyre to enable shooting LOVE ARROWS as the "father of homosexuality." The word NEVER speaks of playing an instrument but of plucking. Of ALL of the literature to justify IMPOSING instruments MARK older males plucking the harp strings to seduce a "youth minister" whose hairs had been PLUCKED.
As the SELF PLEASURE outlaws all of the performing arts--rhetoric, singing, playing, dancing and drama as the HYPOCRITIC arts--the word PSALLO is never DEFINED but it is used of the PLUCKING and always deadly or perverted:
Psallo I. In gen., to play upon a stringed instrument; esp., to play upon the cithara, to sing to the cithara: psallere elegantius, [carry AWAY] 1. to convey away (from the family) by bequest, to bequeath away
That is why those CEREMONIAL LEGALISTS who impose instruments--for their own profit--INTENTIONALLY drive away any of those who question "God's annointeds" thinking they can pick up REPLACEMENTS using entertainment. That is what happened at the first Abomination of Desolation.
The ekklesia is a synagogue or SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE: it has no other collective purpose where the Lord's Supper is a teaching or preaching activity.
Ro.15:2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.
Aedificatio, III. Figurative, building up, instructing, edification. Absolute: [A] loquitur ad [B] Aedificationem [C] Ecclesiae [church], Vulg. 1 Cor. 14, 12 ; ib. Eph. 4, 12.
The Latin phrase loquitur ad Aedificationem Ecclesiae defines THE meaning of the ekklesia or church and the same METHOD excludes music of any kind. Singing would be the ODE which defines "Hebrew cantillation" which means SPEAK as in the word SPEAK.
A. Loquor a. [Sanscr. lap-, to talk, whisper; Gr. lak-, elakon, laskô], to speak, talk, say (in the language of common life, in the tone of CONVERSATION.
b Act. 1. To speak out, to say, tell, talk about, mention, utter, name, declare, show, indicate or express clearly
The PLACE is the ekklesia which we call church.
B. Ecclesia ekklęsia, an assembly of the (Greek) people
This is how you SPEAK for EDUCATION in the ECCLESIAE. In Greek the word:
logik-os , ę, on, ( [logos] )
A. of or for speaking or speech, merę l. logikę, hę, speech, opposite to mousikę and phantasia expressed in speech,
C. Ecclesiae similar to synagogue or church for VOCAL instruction only. Anyone who dallied around the marketplace would be MARKED by the polluted rope defined under the word PSALLO and unfit for "church attendance.
The Muses are the dirty, adulterous "musical worship team" of Apollo or Apollyon in Revelation. In Revelation 17 John identifies the Mother of Harlots. In Revelation 18 he says that the "lusted after FRUITS" will be removed along with the rhetoricians, singers and instrument players." John said that they were SORCERERS who HAD deceived the whole world. Originally these had been agents of "Lucifer the singing and harp playing prostitute" in the garden of Eden. Amos in the "musical worship" passages warns about the "baskets of summer FRUITSs." Thes were the same musical deviates.
Mousikos II. of persons, skilled in music, musical, III. of things, elegan, delicate [fruits], brômata Diox.1 ; professional musicians, mousikos kai melôn poętęs, hędion ouden, oude -ôteron Philem.23 ; harmonious [in tune], fitting, trophę
For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written,
The reproaches [making Him naked] of them that reproached thee fell on me. Romans 15:3
When Jesus identified the generation (race) of children the word is PLAY: Play was the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. They wanted to PIPE hoping that Jesus would SING (lament) and Dance the Dionysus shuffle. That was the perverted "initiation" which was prophesied as the TRIUMPH OVER in Psalm 41. That is the meaning of a RACE of vipers or a CROOKED GENERATION used by Jesus and Peter: they were the perverted skolion singers and players in the usual perverted men's assemblies.
For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning (teaching), that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. Romans 15:4
Paul commanded the Elders to "teach that which had been taught." He commanded Timothy how to conduct "ekklesia" by "giving attention to the (public) reading of the Word." Then identical to the synagogue and the APPROVED EXAMPLE of Jesus, He would sit down and discuss any univerals doctrine and exhort people to obey that read portion. People would say AMEN as in the historic church.
Now the God of patience and consolation [the Comfort of God comes directly from Scripture]
grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: Romans 15:5
If you Walk in the steps of Christ Jesus you will CAST OUTthe musical minstrels meaning "Like Dung" and consign the pipers, singers and dancers to the same Agora where they made music and one another. The second meaning of PSALLO in fact MARKS the musical children to the AGORA or MARKETPLACE where you MARKED peoplle by their diet (Rom 14) but all of the sects were highly vocal and instrumental.
Here is the DIRECT COMMAND for the only PRAISE or GLORIFYING permitted in the church where you "sing that which written" and "teach that which has been taught."
That ye may with ONE MIND and one MOUTH glorify (tell of His works) God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 15:6
This identifies UNISION which creates UNITY. It OUTLAWS speak performance singers as well as increasingly--distressing forms of complex harmony. Harmony is NEVER melody.
There is NO SILENCE or INFERENCES required to obey: Scripture and all literary and ethical scholars OUTLAW you from infering that yu can VIOLATE the direct command to SPEAK one to another.
The EKKLESIA has the same meaning as the Synagogue or church in the wilderness where instrumental and vocal rejoicing was outlawed during "school of the Bible," we should understand that as the Spirit OF Christ the Qahal or synagogue had been established for EDUCATION ONLY and it quarantined the people from the Kingly-Priestly Complex which was idental to all national kingdoms TO WHIGH God had abandoned them at Mount Sinai. The INSTRUMENTAL sacrifices, says Stephen, was "God having abandoned them to worship the STARRY HOST." Now, why would people twist THAT CURSE as a command to deliberately sow discord? This is the APPROVED EXAMPLE of Jesus.
"Hallel, in Jewish ritual, selection from the Psalms, chanted as part of the liturgy during certain festivals.
The more frequently used selection includes Psalms 113-118 and is known as the Egyptian Hallel, presumably because Psalm 114 begins.......
It is sung in synagogues on the first two days of Passover, on Shabuoth, on Sukkot, on each morning of the eight days of Hanukkah, and at the close of the Seder.
"The Hallel through the generations, on specific occasions: Pesachim 117a
"Hallel requires a full stomach and a satisfied spirit: Taanis 25b-26a The reading is beloved to the people, and so they listen closely: Megillah 21b
"The Hallel as an Institution of the Prophets, to use to pray for salvation from danger: Pesachim 117a [2x] Saying the Hallel daily is blasphemous: Shabbos 118b
The Spirit OF Christ spoke only through the Prophets and later the Apostles. ALL of the Prophetic people of God radically condemned the musical, sacrificial system of the CIVIL State as God's curse and REMOVING GRACE. Why would we need a LAW to keep from falling into that always-musical FALL FROM GRACE?
This OUTLAWS the same LADED BURDEN put down by Jesus which is "creating mental excitement through religious rituals." A repeating type song is CALLED a burden. This EXCLUDES all of the performing arts. The new SABBATH or REST (Pauo) is highly dedicated to saying, "Stop the speaking, stop the singing, stop the instruments meaning STOP the Panic.
The only way you can say that God DID NOT outlaw instruments AND associate them with Satan as source, warriors, temple exorcists, prostitutes and sodomites, is to utterly fail to DEFINE WORDS which is the meaning of being a DISCIPLE. I can prove that ALL of those imposing instruments and deliberaly sowing discord DELIBERATELY lie about all of the supposed-musical passages in the Bible and all known literature. Jesus says that the "sons of the Devil" are liars because the SPEAK on their own and Enoch to which Jude and others points identifies the PERFORMERS ignoring the Word as those FOR WHOM God prepared Hell. Isaiah 30 confirms.
If you want to do CEREMONIAL LEAGALISM and mock Jesus and His Word and identify yourself with the UNIVERSAL mark of perverted (crooked generation) of homosexuality, there is no law which says: "Thou shat NOT mark thyself as a musical pervert" whom Paul called DOGS to be left OUTSIDE of spiritual worship. THAT is why about half of the OWNERS of any such perverted institute give both their coat and cloke and flee like Joseph.
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