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I find it odd that mr mcalister

March 22 2002 at 11:08 AM
non-concerned member 
from IP address

that you're so involved at RHCC that your name or picture isnt even in the directory. hhmm, interesting.....

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Kevin Hamm

Is his name?

March 22 2002, 12:25 PM 

Is his name in the directory?

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No, it's not

March 22 2002, 12:40 PM 


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Rich from Richland Hills COC

Non Concerned...That is an unfair assumption

March 22 2002, 4:17 PM 

How many members do we have at Richland Hills...approximately 4 to 5 Thousand? Look at the church directory, do you really think that there are a third of that many in that directory? My wife and I have attended Richland Hills for 6 years since we were married and we are not listed in the new directory. As a matter of fact, there are many different people we see each and every Sunday that some of them think we are visitors and we think the same of them because we have never met.

By the way, if you look at the 1998 directory, Mac and his wife are pictured.

I respect Mac for the post card that he sent in the mail to encourage them to come and hear Rick's sermon on deaconesses. People, whether they are for or against the deaconess decision, should hear what Rick has to say and go home and study for themselves to see if what he says is true (Acts 17:11). That is true not only for deaconess sermons, but also any other sermon that comes out of any pulpit.

The only people I question are those who do not verify what the elders and Rick say with scripture and blindly follow their decisions and thoughts as if they are gospel. Being the Christian that Rick is, I doubt that Rick would even want someone to take his word on everything without verifying it with scripture. Every preacher, whether he has been preaching for 1 day or 50 years should always have their sermons verified by the members of the congregation.


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Weldon McKinney

Indeed, it is.

March 22 2002, 6:08 PM 

Non-concerned member, look there, right between the Maynors and the McBrides. This is the last directory we completed--three-ring binder and all.

But, my dear friend, I looked under "non" and "nonconcered" and "member" and did not see you listing in the directory? I even looked under "anonymous," and could not find you?

It is not fun to be attacked. I know that you do not appreciate it and neither would anyone else.

Earlier, I spoke very highly of one of our elders who was mentioned by name. He is a good and honorable man. But so are Mac and Barb--honorable and faithful Christians. Romans 14:27 is clear: whatever does not proceed form faith is sin.

For some of us, the matter of church organization is a matter of faith. To not uphold this teaching and practice would be sinful for me. To just "leave" a congregation and not speak of a doctrinal difficulty would show both a lack of love and courage. Peter, told his listeners to be ready to give a defense for the hope within. That is all we are doing.

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I stand corrected

March 25 2002, 3:23 PM 

Yes, I made a mistake. In my haste, I overlooked them and jumped to an incorrect conclusion. But I find it odd that They can not sign something they sent to all of the members but I cant not sign my name to this???

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Kenneth Sublett

I Found it Odd, Also

March 22 2002, 7:12 PM 

If the odd finder will back up to the founding statement and originators of the forum you will find, oddly enough the Macs crying:

"We are members at Richland Hills Church of Christ. Last Wednesday night "special servants" were recognized during our assembly and a list of these people, both men and women, were provided to the congregation....

The odd claim is that these sincere people are liars!

So, Odd, let's assume that they are hallucinating, did not attend, did not have copies of the "proof" which proved nothing. Let's assume that they live in, say Nashville. Now, does this suddenly make the PROFESSIONAL DEACONS (ministers) replacing the VOCATIONAL ministers (deacons) suddenly fly off the "record written in heaven?"

Or, have you bought into the Staff Infected idea that "you should not question God's Anointeds"? Or, was I hallucinating when I watched Jubilee 98 on my computer screen when, If I was not hallucinating, the designated change agent introduced something like: "Jubilee 98 - Left-Brain (male) Preacher Learns From Right-Brain (female) Worship"? Was that rider from the plains Rick Atchley or was I hallucinating?

How, then, did you as SENDER get your POST MODERN, post Biblical views then pushed another 90 miles to "my little dead church in the high woods"? Why has that influence from afar helped discord old people and make a great leap forward from 350 members to 250 members still aching from the whip lash all of the way from Fort Worth?

Jubilee 98 spent 1/4 of a million dollars to "facilitate change" where the original agenda was to introduce music and "a wider role for women." Didn't this group sow more discord in Nashville which led to the capture of Madison by the "right brained" (effeminate) chasing off the "left brained" or WORD faithful? Was that a right GIVEN or a wrong GRASPED? As "payee" are you guilty of sowing discord and driving off more than 2,000 members from one congregation? Did you help make the church a LAUGHINGSTOCK in Nashville or not? Where did you get that right? Was your name on a church roll in Nashville which gave you the right to call in the big guns?

Was that your AGENT OF RECORD PAID BY THE ODDS who said "Let's close with prayer. Bow your head, please ...Ask God to put on your heart right now something for your church ... The Spirit will bring something to mind if you are sincere in your asking. Let God right now PUT SOMETHING on your heart and it may be weeks and it may be months and it MAY BE YEARS in coming but if it is from God don't stop asking." Well, it didn't take long at Madison.

This view of a direct operating "spirit" person, according to John Mark Hicks, one of the "crew," was facilitated by Max Lucado and Rubel Shelly in their "incarnational" view which, John hints, may deny that "Christ came fully in the flesh." If I am not mistaken, John Mark alludes to one of those preachers defending your deaconess as major proponent of a wholly new view of the Godhead: unique to 2,000 years of church history.

So, Odd, when you hear people showing sympathy from afar just grasp that much of the hurt among tens of thousands has been facilitated by you and yours. If you are slave to the collection plate or tithing "taxation without representation" then, Odd, you have many thousands of souls on your head who have been "discorded" right out of their churches "of birth." They ARE written in the BOOK and I hope it isn't written: "Charge to Odd." When it comes, and it will come, don't blame the Macs for it. They have scraped your blood off their hands.

Kenneth Sublett

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Kevin Hamm


March 22 2002, 11:44 PM 

Sounds like your church needs to appoint a new Church Directory Committee....

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How to read a directory

March 25 2002, 11:44 AM 

Maybe RHCC needs someone to teach the members how to read a directory. We have been members there for about 11 years and have always been in the directory. Look under McAlister.

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maybe we need a class

March 25 2002, 3:18 PM 

for people not to be judgemental. It funny, you send a msg out without signing it and it's ok, but I cant? isnt that a double standard?


Dear Non-Concerned;

Your anonymous post are welcome as long as they are adding knowledge of the subject, asking questions, or are generally polite.

However, when your anonymous post are personal attacks, on someone that has posted their name, and you are spinless enough to not leave your name, then you have crossed the line.

Please take this as a friendly Christian reminder. There will only be this one.

Thank You

The Moderator

This message has been edited by ConcernedMembers from IP address on Mar 25, 2002 3:55 PM

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I love how you censor those that question

March 26 2002, 7:14 AM 

I;ve looked through the postings and you only censor and drop comments of those that are questioning this sites intentions and as long as someone signs ther name they can preach what they believe the bible says and condemn people to hell.

Joe McKnight has attacked people - censor him


Dear NON-Concerned;

We love you, and we will miss you.

This message has been edited by ConcernedMembers from IP address on Mar 26, 2002 1:10 PM

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Joe McKnight

Censor Me?

March 27 2002, 2:28 PM 

They have, do, and will. I'd say about 3/4 of my post get through and some of them are edited. (there was that time that most of my posts on the Sunday School in exile got zapped, I don't count them in the 3/4) I guess I'm to deep sometimes, and the shoe leather is to hard to chew. With this limited forum (due to my writing skills) all I can do is plant the seeds of truth, and let the Holy Spirit make'm grow. Oh, ain't that what we are suppose to do anyway. And by the way I only attack HIRELINGS, because they are evil, and Jesus warned us about them, as noted in my other post: I think it made it to the board? It was one I responded to someone acusing me of attacking churches: how absurd. I believe they were just trying to make me look bad, or they were a Hireling that got their feelings hurt.
All I can tell you is keep posting, some, if not most, get through.

To God be the Glory
Joe McKnight

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