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“When I saw RHCOC as one of the highlighted congregations”

July 9 2005 at 1:56 PM
 
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Don –

I recently stumbled on to the Letter to Elders Madison Church of Christ, Nashville & was quite interested in what was written. I can't say I am surprised by what I read. I followed the links & located the concernedmembers.com site. When I saw RHCOC as one of the highlighted congregations, I thought 'that figures'.

I am from the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex & have lived in Tarrant County (where Richland Hills is) for nearly 27 years. The reputation of RHCOC is infamous. Liberal, of course. I have heard of many things that go on there.

I was concerned when I read that the Madison situation basically started with the "Purpose Driven Life". My congregation had the 40 days of purpose last summer. Luckily this was not met with enthusiasm & in fact many members were disgusted by the whole thing. I don't know who or how many may have left.

For years the leadership & "minister" at my congregation has failed to do their job IMO. Our congregation use to have in attendance each week about 400 members each Sunday morning. Now we are lucky to get about 130 or so. I am very frustrated by the situation.

Anyway, just thought I'd drop you a note from someone else who feels much like you do.

Your brother in Christ



Signed

Matt 6:25-34


    
This message has been edited by Donnie.Cruz from IP address 68.19.237.210 on Jul 11, 2005 9:02 PM


 
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October 2 2005, 9:30 PM 

It's always interesting to hear people talk 2nd and 3rd hand about things that you have witnessed with your eyes and heard with your ears (first hand). The congregation where you are attending could be struggling with numbers, etc if the church continues to be "disgusted" by new ideas (we are talking method not message). The church in the first century was growing and thriving. I think we are trying to do that, but it doesn't seem to be happening yet. Until we learn the best way to reach today's people in their given culture, we will have to keep "trying and testing" new ideas. You said "that figures" about Richland Hills (without, to my knowledge, a first hand experience) and then said numbers are dropping, I thought "that figures". Godly leadership is vital to a church, but without good followers leadership won't be the cure all. I think it's important we embrace the good God is doing and not look for everything Satan is doing. I don't know of a perfect church...without the blood of Christ! shawn

 
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