The christian chuch has an agenda for 5,000 new congregations: DON'T let them take yours. If music isn't sinful, lying and stealing and DELIBERATELY SOWIING DISCORD will get you a ticket to hell.

Yes: using MUSIC to affect RELIGIOUS INCULCATION is a MORTAL SIN: the Bible tells ME so.
Satan was a Musical Enchanter who wholly seduced Eve and caused the Fall. Sin ENTERED the world using MUSIC.
The Book of Enoc quoted by Jude and others claim that God comes to judge musical seducers and the seduced.
Music or PLAY was the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai: the result was law, captivity, death: loss of Grace.
Music is used over and over as the MARK of telling God: "Shut your face." It can have NO OTHER MEANING.
Music was OUTLAWED for the qahal, synagogue or church in the wilderness: ask a Jewish sixth grader.
Music was VALID only in connection with the Sacrificial System imposed to DESTROY THE NATION after the elders fired God and hired a "Senior Pastor."
Music stopped when the Sacrificial system stopped..
Jesus CAST OUT the musical minstrels like Dung.
Many acted parables outlawed the Babylon Feasts in Jerusalem and its music.
God permissively destroyed the temple for the third and last time along with its musicians and tens of thousands of instruments.
Jesus exampled the synagogue "which had no praise service" based on minimal common sense and the Law.
Before each SPEAKING command Paul SETS UP (not for preachers apparently) the PAGAN practices which used music.
Revelation 17 identifies the Mother of Harlots and Revelation 18 identifies "speakers, singers and musicians" as SORCERERS.
The MILLSTONE in the old testament identifies a PIPING SOUND and the PROSTITUTES who did double duty.
The church did not SING (metrical) for almost 400 years.
All church fathers identify music as a SORCERY type activity even in the secular world.
They all repudiated music because you CANNOT do ekklesia with ENTERTAINMENT.
All of the Greek, Hebrew and Latin musical words and names of instruments point DIRECTLY to Satan (the source), prostitues or sodomites. The Temple guys DID NOT MAKE MUSIC but NOISE: "Of one sound" does not mean congregational singing at the SACRIFICES but a single NOTE from Priest-tuned shofars to make a loud moaning or rushing SOUND not called MUSIC.
Even today MOST religionists know that you cannot GIVE HEED to God and GIVE HEED to the effeminate musicians which--the Disciples proof writers--prove were HIDING ANOTHER AGENDA.
YES: making MUSIC in the face of a Holy God IS A MORTAL SIN. The word TABER as on a tambourine also translates SPIT IN THE FACE. Hand Clapping also defines VOMITING. Raising "unholy" arms instead of PALMS was an open INVITATION.
Let your hireling-changeling PROVE just ONE of the raw, hostile assertions which I ASSERT have another agenda:

NOW then:

The musical HERETICS and ditto heads pick some of the isolated proof texts from things like temple dedicatory and temple "plague stopping animal sacrifices" which might be separated in time almost 300 years to prove that God not only approves of what he calls INSTRUMENTAL PRAISE but, NAY, absolutely COMMANDS instrumental PRAISE. This temple was a national state shrine because that is what God abandoned them to. The common people were "quarantined" many first and all SABBATH or REST days to READ or REHEARSE the word.
Perhaps that is why such truly harsh voice and langue PASSING JUDGMENT on people simply because they REFUSE to be FORCED to listen to the effeminate whining they call PRAISE SINGING. The language of the Bible is not metrical in our sense and even POETRY was not metrical. All "notes" were of emphasis using the "normal inflections of the human voice." The move to using TUNES and INSTRUMENTS is attributed to Orpheus and the Lesbian women.

History and all scholarship demands that when you go from SPEAK and SAY to metrical you are MARKED as EFFEMINATE and the CAUSE of rampant effeminance. I think that is why so many people set in the back pews of YOUR church and don't bother to sing at all.

The literature of the world knows that MUSIC of any form is ENCHANTING. Because music exercises the same externally-stimulated power as a drug, those who use music in a religious sense intend to manipulate the way you feel and think. Nimrod knew and modern science now knows that music forces your body to manufacture endorphins and other 'thingies' in response to a HURT or THREAT. Pagans knew that religious rituals presented a THREAT which only the clergy could CONFRONT and defeat. The almost instant response is that endorphins produce the impulses of FIGHT, FLIGHT and SEXUALITY which produces more endorphins to HEAL the hurt. Like all MAIN LINING of drugs those hooked on music need larger and louder DOSES and the result is permanent damage.

You should note that music, dance and gymnastics was used to train the youth many of whom would go to war. Only the lower classes, they noted, performed music.

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1342a it is clear that we should employ all the harmonies, yet not employ them all in the same way, but

use the most ethical ones for education, and
the active and passionate kinds for listening to when others are performing

(for any experience that occurs violently in some souls is found in all,
though with different degrees of intensity--for example pity and fear, and also religious excitement;

for some persons are very liable to this form of emotion, and under the influence of sacred music we see these people,
when they use tunes that violently arouse the soul
being thrown into a state as if they had received medicinal treatment and taken a purge

Apollyon using the muses was the healer or WASHER because Satan preaches that the charismatic feeling induced by music is PURGING.

Shouldn't we put musical RELIGIONISTS in prison breaking up ROCKS? I say, Yes but their treatment will be worse.

WHAT IS THE CLEAR STATEMENT OF SCRIPTURE AGREEING WITH ALL KNOWN EVIDENCE?

Rev 18:14 And the fruits (ruits is fruits, says Amos about music) that thy soul LUSTED after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

Rev 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
Rev 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying,
Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

Cast or thrown down is the word which defines Jesus casting out the MUSICAL MINSTRELS using a word meaning LIKE DUNG. It is the same as the Hebrew which defines "Lucifer CAST AS PROFANE out of heaven." It can mean "play the flute, pollute or prostitute."

Rev 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians [Apollyon's muses or locusts] and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, [theater builders and stage managers] of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone [called a pipe, made a wistling sound to attract] shall be heard no more at all in thee;

Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

No one in church history could misunderstand that fact.

Because the church fathers--the Sectarians repudiate with all history--could read Revelation 18, the rest of the Bible and the universal understanding that MUSIC was a way to fondly people's private parts and cause them to react in a certain way, we hear one testimony which--with all of the rest--proves that the church did not reject instruments because they were "ignorant, southern red-necks" as the false teachers love to claim:

Aphrahat 4th centuryhttp://www.piney.com/FathAphrahatDemon.html#Now

19. Now thus is faith; when a man believes in God the Lord of all, Who made the heavens and the earth and the seas and all that is in them; and He made Adam in His image; and He gave the Law to Moses; He sent of His Spirit upon the prophets; He sent moreover His Christ into the world.

Furthermore that a man should believe in the resurrection of the dead; and should furthermore also believe in the sacrament of baptism.
This is the faith of the Church of God. And (it is necessary) that a man should separate himself
from the observance of hours and Sabbaths and moons and seasons,
and divinations and SORCERIES and Chaldaean arts and magic,

Musica and Magica and Exegetice are related words: that is why Peter outlawed private interpretation or further expounding which is the MARK of a false teacher. That seem to fit?

from fornication and from festive music, from vain doctrines,
which are instruments of the Evil One,
from the blandishment of honeyed words, from blasphemy and from adultery.

And that a man should not bear false witness, and that a man should not speak with double tongue. These then are the works of the faith which is based on the true Stone which is Christ, on Whom the whole building is reared up.

You will notice that he understood what EVERYONE understood: arousal music is associated with blasphemy and fornication. In the same way, Paul associated "URGED" giving--even for the destitute--with fornication.
Aphrahat arees with the Bible and will also tell you that religious music comes from Satan. Of course, most music is used to seduce people out of theri money with no lasting benefit. That is why musicians were called parasites.

Tom Burgess and ALL of the musicators appeal to Plutarch on Pericles for authority.

Plutarch, Lives Pericles

IV. His teacher in music, most writers state, was Damon (whose name, they say, should be pronounced with the first syllable short); but Aristotle says he had a thorough MUSICAL training at the hands of Pythocleides.

Now Damon seems to have been a consummate SOPHIST,

DAMON
"Rise, Lucifer, and, heralding the light,
bring in the genial day, while I make moan
fooled by vain passion for a faithless bride,
for Nysa, and with this my dying breath
call on the gods, though little it bestead--
the gods who heard her vows and heeded not.
'Begin, my flute, with me Maenalian lays.'

Lucifer or Phosphorus "the bringer of light"). The name of the planet Venus, when seen in the morning before sunrise. The same planet was called Hesperus, Vesperugo, Vesper, Noctifer, or Nocturnus, when it appeared in the heavens after sunset. Lucifer as a personification is called a son of Astraeus and Aurora or Eos, of Cephalus and Eos, or of Atlas By Philonis he is said to have been the father of Ceyx. He is also called the father of Daedalion and of the Hesperides. Lucifer is also a surname of several goddesses of light, as Artemis, Aurora, and Hecaté.

but to have taken REFUGE behind the name of MUSIC
in order to CONCEAL from the multitude his REAL power,
and he associated with Pericles, that political athlete,
as it were, in the capacity of RUBBER and TRAINER.

[2] However, Damon was not left unmolested in this use of his LYRE as a SCREEN,
but was ostracized for being a great SCHEMER and a friend of TYRANNY,
and became a BUTT of the comic poets.
Why would those using RACA words against those who repudiate EFFEMINATE so-called worship CHOOSE all of those "fellas" and their ACTIVITY to prove THEIR authority to USE music and musicians? Are they hiding?

That is why the DEMAGOUGE "appeases people using the popular arts" and is identified with the word HERESY and KLEPTOMA.

THAT IS THE MARK OF EVERY SINGLE PROOF TEXT THE STONEITES USE FOR AUTHORITY TO DELIBERATELY SOW DISCORD AMONG BELIEVERS.

MARK IT: ONLY THOSE WHO ADDED PAGAN MUSIC ARE THE SECTARIAN HYPOCRITES. SECTARIAN BECAUSE THEY ARE SCHISMATIC AND HYPOCRITES BECAUSE THE GREEK WORD AND JESUS IDENTIFY THE HYPOCRITES AS 'SLICK SPEAKERS, SINGERS AND MUSICIANS.'
ANYONE WHO DISPUTES THAT IS A LIAR AND THAT IS WHY THEY WON'T GIVE AN ANSWER TO ANYONE WHEN THEY CAN RUN OVER THOSE WHOM THEY HAVE TAKEN CAPTIVE.

You must not be timid when you have ALL of the truth and minimal human ethics on your side: if you enable a spiritual terrorist you ARE a spiritual terrorist.

All of the false teachers about MUSIC in the worship of a Holy God when the COMMAND is like in the wilderness: to REST from the clergy buden lalders, to READ as exampled by Jesus and to REHEARSE or dialog the Word to fix it in our hearts. They have an AGENDA where truth has been removed from them. Indeed the book of Enoch and all of the contemporaneous literature along with the Bible proves that when you commect the FLESH and music to SPIRITUAL worship, you have fallen and you will never get up. God sent the YOUTH in the Book of Enoch STRONG DELUSIONS so they ate, drank and made merry. This means that this quote taken as GOSPEL by all of the sowers of discord is a flat lie:

Tom Burgess:When we add to this the fact that some early Christians began to compare musical accompaniment with pagan singing and "worldliness" we have the answer as to why some early Christians stopped using the instrument.

The church in the wilderness had music OUTLAWED. The synagogue "had no praise service." Jesus stood up to READ the Word and decently SAT DOWN. And Paul defined the SYNAGOGUE using words which MARKED anyone doing spiritual arousal as perverted: dogs or wolves.

That is about as much a MARK to avoid as Rick Atchley SHOUTING that God COMMANDS INSTRUMENTAL PRAISE. Perhaps if you are fulfilling an agreement to have a "plague stopping ceremony" and want to play and burn animals in the parking lot you might not get burned by STRANGE FIRE.

This is not the truth. When singing non-Biblical songs or instruments were once introduced the Book of Enoch, Jubilees, Adam and Eve and other ancient writings prove that you can NEVER remove them. The Reformers were confessed RESTORERS and tossed images and organs out of the churches inherited from the Catholics.

Tom Burgess:Tom Burgess p. 33: Chrysostom strongly opposed instruments because they were "lifeless, demons, unnecessary, and used in heathen entertainments--cf. Hom. Ps. 149:2; Hom. Ps 150. Clement said that such instruments as the pipe and flute were "more suitable to beasts than to men. " He calls such music "licentious and mischievous. " Cf. Instructor. These interesting comparisons are

full of impressive emotional prejudice but demonstrate no scriptural backing and therefore would appeal only to one who is searching for a cause and not the truth.

That is where Rick Atchley got the idea that NO ONE reading the Bible would refuse to do "instrumental praise" when EVERYONE who read Scripture HONESTLY reached the conclusion that it was OUTLAWED because it was spirit damaging and soul destroying. Burgess just FABRICATES and Atchley DUPLICATES.

Self-protection and preservation caused the instrument to be used sparingly;
some abused its use causing it to be compared to pagan music;

hence, some have concluded that conviction based on scripture had stopped the music!

Why would that make sense? All of the pagan cults including those discussed in Romans 14 used music and everyone LOVED it.

Well, that that SOME some quick mental help. ALL history knows that they did START instruments because not even under the LAW did the civilians ever "sing with instrumental accompaniment." The TEMPLE for we grads to the fast group was a PAGAN or GOYIM temple AFTER God had turned them over to worship the STARRY HOST.

FACTS: Chrysostom on Colossians:

"Let the word of Christ dwell in you"; that is,
the teaching, the doctrines, the exhortation, wherein He says, that the present life is nothing, nor yet its good things.
If we know this, we shall yield to no hardships whatever. (Matt. vi. 25, &c) "Let it dwell in you," he saith, "richly," not simply dwell, but with great abundance. Hearken ye, as many as are worldly, and have the charge of wife and children;
how to you too he commits especially the reading of the Scriptures and that not to be done lightly, nor in any sort of way, but with much earnestness.

Now THAT is what Jesus EXAMPLED and Paul commanded in the "synagogue" in Rom 15, what Paul did out on mission, what he commanded Timothy and what the church did until about the year 400 when SINGING WAS ADDED TO THE ASSEMBLY. WHY would you have instruments when the were literate and READ the word as commanded.

FACTS: From 1 Cor 10 which warns of the PLAY or musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. Homily XII, Col 4

I dare say you consider me offensive. For this too is a property of extreme pervertedness, that even one that rebuketh you incurs your ridicule as one that is austere. Hear ye not Paul, saying, "Whatsoever ye do, whether ye eat or drink or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God"? (1 Cor. x. 31)

But ye do all to ill report and dishonor. Hear ye not the Prophet, saying, "Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice unto Him with trembling?" (Ps. ii. 11) But ye are wholly without restraint. Is it not possible both to enjoy pleasure, and to do so with safety?
Art thou desirous of hearing beautiful songs? Best of all indeed, thou oughtest not; nevertheless,
I condescend if thou wilt have it so: do not hear those Satanic ones, but the spiritual.

Art thou desirous of seeing choirs of dancers? Behold the choir of Angels. And how is it possible, saith one, to see them?
If thou drive away all these things, even Christ will come to such a marriage, and Christ being present, the choir of Angels is present also. If thou wilt, He will even now work miracles as He did then; He will make even now the water, wine (John ii.); and what is much more wonderful,
He will convert this unstable and dissolving pleasure, this cold desire, and change it into the spiritual. This is to make of water, wine.
Where pipers are, by no means there is Christ; but even if He should have entered,
He first casts these forth, and then He works His wonders.
What can be more disagreeable than this Satanic pomp?
where everything is everything without significancy; and if there be anything articulate,
again all is shameful, all is noisome

FACTS: Terminal mistake: In Pegagogue III

Going to Church.

Woman and man are to go to church decently attired, with natural step, embracing silence, possessing unfeigned love, pure in body, pure in heart, fit to pray to God. Let the woman observe this, further. Let her be entirely covered, unless she happen to be at home.
For that style of dress is grave, and protects from being gazed at. And she will never fall, who puts before her eyes modesty, and her shawl;
nor will she invite another to fall into sin by uncovering her face. For this is the wish of the Word, since it is becoming for her to pray veiled.

They say that the wife of Aenuas, through excess of propriety, did not, even in her terror at the capture of Troy, uncover herself; but, though fleeing from the conflagration, remained veiled.

Out of Church.

Such ought those who are consecrated to Christ appear, and frame themselves in their whole life, as they fashion themselves in the church for the sake of gravity; and to be, not to seem such-so meek, so pious, so loving.
But now I know not how people change their fashions and manners with the place. As they say that polypi, assimilated to the rocks to which they adhere, are in colour such as they; so, laying aside the inspiration of the assembly, after their departure from it, they become like others with whom they associate. Nay, in laying aside the artificial mask of solemnity, they are proved to be what they secretly were.

After having paid reverence to the discourse about God, they leave within [the church] what they have heard.
And outside they foolishly amuse themselves with impious playing, and amatory quavering, occupied with flute-playing, and dancing, and intoxication, and all kinds of trash.
They who sing thus, and sing in response, are those who before hymned immortality,-found at last wicked and wickedly singing this most pernicious palinode,

"Let us eat and drink, for to-morrow we die." But not to-morrow in truth, but already, are these dead to God; burying their dead, that is, sinking themselves down to death. The apostle very firmly assails them. "Be not deceived; neither adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor railers," and whatever else he adds to these, "shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Chrysostom had at least READ Paul:

For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. Phil 3:3

That is the ONLY place god LOOKS for our worship. The reason for not OPENING the process to the musical group is too:

Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. Phil 3:2

kuôn I. a dog or bitch, Hom., etc.; most commonly of hounds, id=Hom., etc.; the Laconian breed was famous, Soph.;-- nê or ma ton kuna was the favourite oath of Socrates, Plat.: cf. trapezeus. II. as a word of reproach, to denote shamelessness or audacity in women, rashness, recklessness in men 2. at Athens a nickname of the Cynics, Arist., Anth.III. the Trag. apply the term to the ministers of the gods; the eagle is Dios ptênos kuôn Aesch.; the griffins Zênos akrageis kunes id=Aesch.; the Bacchantes Lussês k. Eur., etc.

For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a LIE. Re.22:15

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John identified the MOTHER OF HARLOTS (ZOE, LUCIFER) in Revelation 17 and identified the speakers, singers and musicians as SORCERERS who HAD deceived the whole world. The candles had been removed and the music was the MARK. Jude and Enoch identify these as the wandering stars or FALLEN ANGELS who seduced mankind for the first FALL. That is why they LOOK like "angels of light" but if you understand the word they smell like wolves with a still-bleeding sheep skin.

But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, Thedog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. 2Pe.2:22

Caphaq (h5606) saw-fak'; or saphaq (1 Kings 20:10; Job 27:23; Isa. 2:6), saw-fak'; a prim. root; to clap the hands (in token of compact, derision, grief, indignation or punishment); by impl. of satisfaction, to be enough; by impl. of excess, to vomit: - clap, smite, strike, suffice, wallow

These are the DOGS and the spotted thing on right is a flute case and the little attachment is the Judas Bag. The TRIUMPH OVER was outlawed for the Qahal, synagogue or church in the wilderness. A common practice of the TRIUMPH was the threat of sodomy. Psalm 41 says that JUDAS would not TRIUMPH OVER Jesus. However, the Levitical Warriors did as prophesied in the Dead Sea translation.



Don't forget this picture: Paul warns about those who do not worship with "reverence and Godly fear that GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE and many are PRAYING for the fires to fall.

Why do people go to so much trouble to lie? Is there a possibility that those who created MUSICAL SECTARIAN cannot look at ANY fact in the Bible or history and SEE it? Jesus says that clergy lose their eyes and ears when they REJECT the Word. Hebrews 6 makes THIS the unforgivable sin. Isaiah 30 still says that this is the SOUND of wind, string and percussion instruments of HIM beating them into HELL itself which was specificially PREPARED, says Isaiah, for Lucifer the 'singing and harp playing prostitute' and all SHE can seduce with the same instruments she / he /it brought into the garden of eden to WHOLLY SEDUCE Eve. Of course MUSIC or any of the HYPOCRITIC arts IS lying.

Why lie by saying that "the church Fathers were not negative about instrumental music in the assembly?" In fact they all were. It is a fact that they associated religious music with prostitutes, Sodomites and hucksters knowing they could fleece the widows, fatheads and simpletons. But, why would a genuine Christian want to try to overcome that stigma? Neither did they have naked dancers but it was NOT just because the pagan religions USED them. Lucian spoke for all of those with frog spirits which were called QUACKS because only the most INSECURE seek out humans to give them aid and comfort:

Dostoyevsky wrote:
http://www.piney.com/PrDostoy.html

"I tell Thee that man is tormented by NO GREATER ANXIETY
than to find some one quickly to whom he can hand over that GIFT OF FREEDOM
with which the ill-fated creature is born.
But only one who can appease their conscience can take over their freedom."
But what happened? Instead of taking men's freedom from them,
Thou [Jesus] didst make it greater than ever! Didst Thou forget that

man prefers peace, and even death,
to freedom of choice in the knowledge of good and evil?

Nothing is more seductive for man than his freedom of conscience,
but nothing is a greater cause of suffering.

Freedom IN Christ is freedom FROM being mind manipulated by music and musicians
whom John called SORCERERS by which the WHOLE WORLD had been deceived. REST specificiall
OUTLAWS "spiritual anxiety through religious rituals" and PAUO in the Greek most often points to
STOPPING the SINGING and INSTRUMENTS!

I suppose that they will claim that John was just CULTURE-DEPRIVED and ignorant. I suppose that John was A FRAIDY CAT that his old "conservative" dogma would not surviive Circe (whose burial island he could see from Patmos) who used SURCERY which was music and drugs used to force fornication and then to turn them into SWINE where she fed them sermons of "hand patted dung patty cakes." SHE is the Mother of Harlots called "christianism" you know.

How can they lie and say that Clement permitted the harp IN CHURCH? Will the REAL Clement stand up? Being a Bible reader he understood the meaning of the PASTORAL people as opposed to the AGRICULTURAL society from whence came fertility cults and "musical prophesiers."

Cain is from "a musical note or mark." His grandson, Jubal taught peoplel to handle musical instruments meaning WITHOUT AUTHORITY. They introduced all of the Arts and Crafts into society in order to CAPTURE and CONTROL other people. The Babylonian Tablets define the same fall and GENUN (Genius, Geni) is the composite. Satan came into him in his YOUTH and taught him how to SEDUCE people away from the Living Word. Once they fell among the Cainites (Kenites who occupied Jerusalem, called Sodom) they repented but COULD NOT BE RESTORED

Clement of Alexandria: born AD 150, Athens, died , between 211 and 215, and three dozen other documents I have posted tell the story of The Book of Enoch, The Book of Jubilees, etc. defining FOR WHOM God will come with ten thousands of His saints to judge them. Isaiah 30 defines FOR WHOM Hell was prepared. No one is recorded history was so far gone that they did not understand the power of music to take control of your mind AND your private parts: those, like Jubal (Jubilee) used the arts and crafts to take people Captive. These same arts and crafts were used by the Mother of Harlots in Revelation 17-18 and a "Church near you."

See The Sons of God.
http://www.piney.com/BabSonsOfGod.html

See Alexander Hislop The Great Red Dragon
http://www.piney.com/His171.html

Recognitions of Clement
http://www.piney.com/FathRecClemBIV.html

You WILL grasp that there were TWO sons marking out the pastorals from the fertility cult agriculturists. There were two LAMECHS and the evil sons of Cain and the Jubal family HANDLED musical instruments WITHOUT AUTHORITY. They brought on the end of the world through the flood. However, we know that the CAINITE people survived the flood.

Chapter XIII.-Origin of Idolatry after the flood. The UNIVERSAL understanding of those with understanding

"But when all these things were done, men turned again to impiety;
and on this account a law was given by God to instruct them in the manner of living.
But in process of time, the worship of God and righteousness were corrupted
by the UNBELIEVING and the WICKED, as we shall show more fully by and by.
Moreover, perverse and erratic religions were introduced, to which the greater part of men gave themselves up,

by occasion of holidays and solemnities, instituting drinkings and banquets,
following pipes, and flutes, and harps, and diverse kinds of musical instruments,
and indulging themselves in all kinds of drunkenness and luxury.

Hence every kind of error took rise; hence they invented groves and altars, fillets and victims,
and after drunkenness they were agitated as if with mad emotions.

By this means power was given to the demons to enter into minds of this sort, so that they seemed to lead insane dances and to rave like Bacchanalians; hence were invented the gnashing of teeth, and bellowing from the depth of their bowels; hence a terrible countenance and a fierce aspect in men, so that he whom drunkenness had subverted and a demon had instigated, was believed by the deceived and the erring to be filled with the Deity.

False teachers claim that it is the SPIRIT PERSON who is working inside. Nothing changes but the COSTS.

This is what Paul warned against so that you could SPEAK one to another using the Biblical Text--Only. This PATTERNISM is Paul's FOUNDATION in Romans chapter 1. Every bartender knows that MUSIC makes the wine go down: why would a "shepherd" do THAT to you?

http://www.piney.com/Romans.1.html

In Romans 10 and 1 Cor 10 Paul pointed to the PLAY at Mount Sinai which was Musical Idolatry. He and the Egyptian resources define that as DEMON worship. While they BELIEVED that they were looking BRIGHT as a newly-stolen church house, God said that the watching unbelievers saw them as a LAUGHINGSTOCK. And so, we must see the "new style worship from old style Babylon" as something to be LAUGHED AT because we are watching prophecy OF BIBLICAL PROPORTION taking place JUST AS PROPHESIED.

WHAT THE GREEK TEXT SAY ABOUT THESE ACTS OF WORSHIP AND WHY PAUL OUTLAWED THEM.

Banto I. Neutr., to produce melodious sounds (by the voice or an instrument), to sound, sing, play
2. Of the singing pronunciation of an orator, to declaim in a singing tone, to sing, drawl
C. Hence, because the oracles were of old uttered in verse, of any mysterious, prophetic, or warning utterance, to predict, warn, point out, indicate, make known, say: vera cantas?
III. In the lang. of religion, as v. n. or a., to use enchantments, charms, incantations, to enchant, to charm, cantata Luna, exorcised by magic, ignis,
B. To call forth, produce by charms: et chelydris cantare soporem,
Cantus With instruments, a playing, music: in nervorum vocumque cantibus, citharae, horribili stridebat tibia cantu,

John called it SORCERY: John Calvin agrees that Numbers 10 OUTLAWS this when the Qahal, synagogue or church in the wilderness assembled ONLY FOR INSTRUCTIONS. John Calvin was NOT a fraidy cat: he was simply Biblical and Ethical literate along with EVERYONE ELSE before these mighty AFFLICTIONS.

Of the IGNIS who are CALLING DOWN GOD'S FIRES with songs:
Incentor, one who sets the tune or begins to sing, a precentor, singer (post-class.). carminis, incentore canam Phoebo Musisque magistris. [Phoebe=fear=Apollo or Abaddon]
II. Trop., an inciter, exciter: igneus turbarum, rebellionis totius meaning "a renewal of war, revolt, rebellion"

Because SINGING as an ACT was not added until the pagans filled the church offices about the year 400, McClintock and Strong say that the PRECENTER or song leader was "THE FIRST HERESY LARGELY PERVADING THE CHURCH."

Igneus of fire, fiery, on fire, burning, burning-hot, acc. to Heraclitus, Chimaera, ardor,of fire, of color, fiery, flaming, resplendent, purpura. II. Trop., fiery, glowing, burning, fervid, ardent, vehement (poet.): furor, burning for the strife

Too bad that they will be consumed by their own BREATH (spirit)

Canto is Identical to:

Magicus, belonging to magic, magic, magical. superstitiones, vanitates, that were invoked by incantations: linguae= skilled in incantations, cantus, magicae resonant ubi Memnone chordae, mysterious, id. 15, 5 .

Eze.13:6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The Lord saith: and the Lord hath not sent them:
and they have made others to hope that they would CONFIRM the word.

But they CANNOT and WILL NOT because they DON'T HAVE TOO as long as you feed their face and LOVE TO BE FOOLED.

See how Ken Cukrowski, Mark Hamilton, and James Thompson in God's Holy Fire strike the match:
http://www.piney.com/Gods.Holy.Fire.ACU.html

The MARK of the UNIVERSAL persona of religious musicians or as John says SORCERERS with an BAD motive. Bacchus or Dionysus is the NEW WINESKIN GOD.

Bakchebakchon aisai sing the song (to Bacchus) beginning with Bakche Bakche! Ar.Eq.408.
phallikos , of or for the phallos: the phallic song

That's what they TRIED when they PIPED hoping others including Jesus would SING and DANCE and be INITIATED.

Aulôid-ia , hê, song TO the flute
Superstitio, o-nis, f. [super-sto; orig a standing still over or by a thing; hence, amazement, wonder, dread, esp. of the divine or supernatural] .
magikos technê magic

That is the meaning of the SERPENT in the Garden as the Musical Enchanter/s or "the singing and harp-playing prostitute." That is also the meaning of the Serpent or OPHIS in Revelation and he / see / it are sOPHISts, singers, musicians and all religious craftsment performing SORCERY.

John lumped the speakers, singers, musicians and CRAFTSMEN or TECHNE as agents of the Mother of Harlots and therefore SORCERERS. The Techne in the theater or SPECTACLE OF WORSHIP was the "theater builders and stage managers." Got any of THOSE in Texas?

Paul said WITHOUT WRATH the message was ORGE or ORGYS which are brought on by music and "musicians" standing in the holy places CLAIMING to lead you into God's presence and THEREFORE claiming to BE gods. Clement Who gives Rick Atchley permission continues and it would be WISE if you understand what PERMISSION Rick has appropriated:

Chapter VII.-Sacrificial Orgies.

"But they did not cease to worship images [performance preachers, singers doing "the idolatry of talent,"]
by reason of the evil intelligence of the magicians, [Magica, Musica and Exegetice are similar. Sorcerers in Rev 18]
who FOUND excuses for them, which had power to CONSTRAIN them to the foolish worship
For, establishing this things by magical ceremonies, they assigned them feasts from sacrifices, libations, flutes, and shoutings,

by means of which senseless men, being deceived, and their KINGDOM being taken from them,
yet did not desist from the worship that they had taken up with.

To such an extent did they PREFER error, on account of its PLEASANTNESS, before truth.
[Paul outlawed SELF-pleasure in Rom 15 which points to "singing" and reproaches or exposing the pudenda.]

They also howl after their sacrificial surfeit, their soul from the depth, as it were by dreams,
forewarning them of the punishment that is to befall such deeds of theirs.

The Jewish Encyclopedia and those Muslims we should be spending our money on see our singing as "Screeching, screaming or howling." Any kind of squeeky, high pitched singing is "Howling for their lostness." That is why Jesus will remove HIS name from their building because the Sorcerers were MARKS that the CANDLES had already been removed and will never be lit again.

Nietzsche in Tragedy repudiating "religionism" uses the Lyre of Apollo and the Flute of Dionysus to show that the eternal battle for turf is defined by the MUSICAL INSTRUMENT they pick. He goes on to repeat what the Bible and lots of history including what we have just quoted from Clement, that the LUNGE into adding instruments while deliberately SOWING DISCORD is not spiritual superiority: in fact it is the well-recognized mental breakdown of those who have USED their old religion and then TURNED their coats. Joseph Campbell says that the LOSS causes them to CRACK AWAY TO THE ARCHAIC. With the American Indians it was the Peyote cult: with American religionism which disconnected from the head ages ago it is as new as the Towers of Babbling where Nimrod led around his "musical worship team" claiming to regenerate morals by external means--for a price, always for a price.

That is the meaning of God's Wrath meaning ORGE or ORGY worshiping EROS and also the STRONG DELUSIONS God sends. Orge or Wrath means that God sends you "Jesters, buffoons and actors." Paul outlawed the women's lifting ARMS and told the mature male to lift holy PALMS without WRATH. That is one of Paul's POINTERS to the charismatic (perverted) worship where some evil woman is the "shepherdess."