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> Seems Nehemiah used musical instruments in the dedication of the rebuilding of the wall in Nehemiah 12? He did this the bible says according to the instruments used by David. This then would be one example of an Old Testament use of music not used to worship idols. And, it appears to me that the whole sum total of the Old Testament was a progressive revelation of God and his dealing with man leading up to the coming of the Messiah.

I will cover the Nehemiah event on the Richland Hills Forum and I will link fuller studies.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/177121/

Nehemiah had to reach back many centuries (not to last sabbath) to find authority for dedicating an earthly temple. However, the king, kingdom and temple was a NATIONAL or CIVIL institution which was IMPOSED primarily because of the musical idoaltry at Mount Sinai. Secondarily, the elders fired God and wanted a king like the NATION and that would be like Canaanite or Babylonian Baalism. God warned the elders that the kings would put them under hard bondage and the captivity and death sentence conditionally imposed at Mount Sinai would be carried.

The music was not used as WORSHIP but as service (hard bondage) it was to serve the priests as they slaughtered and burned tens of thousands of TYPES of Jesus Christ. Because Stephen says that God TURNED THEM OVER TO WORSHIP THE HEAVENLY HOST all scholarship is aware that they were abandoned to Sabazianism or Astrial Deity worship including 666 or the Chaldean Saturn (Saturday).

Even so, God QUARANTIED this sacrificial system to Jerusalem only and the "congregation" consisted of the civil-military-priestly complex which was no different from that in Tyre built by the same Hiram.

The PEOPLE were in fact BLOWN OUTSIDE the gates by the loud noise which was not MUSIC during the killing and burning. The Qahal or synagogue or "church in the wilderness" was ONLY for reading or rehearsing the Word of God and the ALARM or blowing of instruments and "making a joyful noise before the Lord" was outlawed because this was the WARRIOR'S PANIC MUSIC.

These dedicatory or purification animal sacrifices might be separated by almost 300 years but the "people" met many first days and all SABBATH (rest, not Saturday) to holdl a Holy Convocation which was exactly what Jesus exampled in the synagogue, Paul clearly defined as SPEAKING that which is written or Scripture and the historic church observed before SINGING in the collective assembly was introduced by pagan bishops who "converted" close to the year 400. Neither singing or music has any rationale when we accept Jesus' invitation to "come REST and learn of ME." There was no preacher, collection basked passer or song leader which McClintock and Strong identifies as "the first heresy largely pervading the church."


> I find nothing much in the New Testament about worship per se and very little or nothing definitive about the use of instruments in worship. If we are to use the first century example of true meeting for our expression of praise to God and his Son then we would still meet in homes as I see nothing in Acts to indicate that these folks met in any church setting other than someones home.Therefore,to do anything other than that would be "adding to" if we carry that term to its finite meaning.

You are correct, Jesus died to found HIS ekklesia which is a synagogue and the synagogue "never had a praise service." Neither did it permit preaching other than what Paul exampled and commanded Timothy to "give attendance to the (public) READING of the Word" and to exhorting the obedience to THAT READ PORTION just like the synagogue and Jesus' example, and defining any doctrinal or universal principle IN THAT READ PORTION. The Bible is NOT metrical in the singing sense but in te reading sense as I tend to emphasise with bold (too much).

The TASK is to READ with one MIND and one MOUTH using that which is written according to Paul who defines another of the NOT singing passages in Romans 15. Jesus did that on hills, in synagogues or in private homes. Paul preached in synagogues and in open forums where we see him "dialoging" on his mission trips. When the ekklesia GATHERS or ASSEMBLES you have a SYNAGOGUE and there is no logical or Biblical definition of authorized places.

Most churches are built as THEATERS for PERFORMERS and Jesus points to Isaiah and Ezekiel to define HYPOCRITES as speakers, singers and musicians: so does the Greek literature. Therefore, I doubt that you can hold SERVICE (hard bondage) and let a preacher (not on the authorized list and unfunded) SERMONIZE which by definition intends to add to or subtract from or FURTHER EXPOUND which is outlawed by Peter as "private interpretation." So, the fact that we do lots of things NOT authorized can never be authority to do MUSIC which defact intends to scramble and rewrite Scripture and thereby violate many direct commands.

Early evangelists were under the mandate to use the WORD ONLY as resource and for centuries preaching was expository: Division occured when someone decided that he could attract more contributers if he told BIBLE STORIES in an entertaining way. We have 168 hours a week and church is identified by the Campbells as A SCHOOL OF CHRIST and worship is READING and MUSING the Word of God. Paul's ONLY worship words mean to GIVE HEED to Jesus christ by giving heed to HIS WORDS.


> The over riding issue in the New Testament seems to be the issues outlined by Jesus in his sermon on the mount. Here Jesus is teaching that true Christianity is an issue from the heart and not one from an outward act or disposition. If the heart is not right it makes no difference what you manifest as conduct externally.

I certainly agree with that but too often we define worship as WITH the heart or a good mental attitude but Jesus told the woman at the well that worship must be IN the heart. Because the contrast is temples and hills or places, I think he meant that worship must be IN the heart or mind which is what happens when you SPEAK that which has been taught and the MUSE or sing AND make melody IN THE HEART. Paul said that the converted Jews now worshipped IN THE SPIRIT and he contrasts this to IN THE FLESH. His purpose was that when you do EXTERNAL rituals the dogs and concision will move in and take over as wolves. John was IN the spirit on the Lords day and that is where we HEAR the word of a "washed" or A holy spirit in the presence of God Who only SEEKS us in our thinking and does not judge by what he sees or hears. This is why I sincerely doubt that it is possible any longer to do WORSHIP in the presence of a group or INSTITUTE which has been organized to FACILITATE your worship. Jesus died to be the only mediator in song and sermon when we sing and preach that which is written or scripture. Paul in Romans 15 says that is the way to educate (what you do in ekklesia or synagogue), glorify God who WROTE the songs and sermons and KEEP THE UNITY. I think we did fairly well until the MUSICIANS invaded and people decided that the ONLY ROLE of the church is WORSHIP. That is true but worship is not an act but RESULTS when we pay attention to God and HIS words. I don't think you can see or hear Jesus when boys get up and sing, sway, clap their hands and in a FEW cases bring their "clangs and gongs."

> Also, I see a strong emphases on the neccessity to believe that Jesus was and is in fact the Son of God, born of a virgin, lived an earthly exemplary live, was crucified, buried and raised from the dead. Therefore, all who believe on this doctrine and obey his commands will be saved by grace through faith in Jesus.

That is true, but if we DISOBEY what the Spirit OF Christ taught about music even in the garden of Eden where the serpent was a "musical enchanter" or as the king of Tyre the "singing and harp-playing prostitute"; or the prophecy that Judas would attempt to TRIUMPH OVER Jesus which is that "blowing and rejoicing outlawed for the synagogue" and you see Jesus cast out the musical minstrels meaning "like dung" and his approved example of the synagogue which had no praise service and if we do anything to "take away the key to knowledge" I don't think grace covers that: Grace HATH APPEARED teaching us to DENY just those things.

> I see nothing in the scriptures that state if you use instruments when you come together on Sunday you will be cast into hell. In fact if I am correct worship is a 24/7 activity and not constrained to one day of the week. The use of intruments in worship pale in comparison to the type of heart one has.

I am pretty dogmatically certain that if you ADD instruments to a peaceable church and sow discord and upfront tell people they have to choose between "instruments and their family" the I am ready to pronoucne the judgement God pronounced.

As I read Isaiah 30, God through Isaiah is telling us that HELL was specificially prepared for Lucifer or Satan and all he / she can seduce away from the word using musical instruments.

http://www.piney.com/Isa30LXX.html

John in Revelation 17 identifies the MOTHER OF HARLOTS and then in Revelation 18 identifies the singers, musicians and craftsmen (teche including theater builders and stage managers) as HAVING DECEIVED the whole world as SORCERERS.

ALL of the singing and music words in the real Greek literature is identified as CHARMING or ENCHANTING or as SORCERY because it intends to use EXTERNAL MEANS to force you to think a certain way. I don't think that there is much singing which does not intend to SOOTHE or CHARM the group to make them THINK that they are spiritual. Furthermore, it is defacto proven that when Twila Paris' false teaching is being sung it is to SILENCE the songs of the Spirit OF Christ. I don't think we can escape that. And when we are singing about CHRIST CENTERED the performers know very well that THEY are at the center and you cannot look THROUGH them and their body worship and see or hear Jesus.

Yes, I believe that the early language-literate literature such as The Book of Enoch and three dozen other versions I have collected insist that Satan taught the youth to seduce people away from the Living Word using wine, women and song. Jude quotes Enoch to define the FOR WHOM God will come with ten thousands of His saints to execute judgment. That agrees with "my take" on Isaiah 30.

Paul insists that we must come before God with reverence and godly fear:
For God is a consuming fire (Heb 12)

Contrary to the perversion of church scholars, so far the ALL agree with what I have just written.

Thanks for the feedback.
Ken Sublett

 

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