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David Faust Richland Hills

March 30 2007 at 9:13 PM
 
from IP address 69.19.14.33

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I have begun a review of David Faust's spectacle at Freed Hardeman which seems bent on letting false teachers lecture and then promote their false teachings without any rebuttal.

David Faust simply ditto heads all of the books of false teaching such as Tom Burgess. He tries to prove that PSALLO commands the use of musical instruments. However, Psallo was always a warfare word and used only metaphorically of SHOOTING out hymns such as those of Apollo (Apollyon) who tuned his bow to his lyre. All of the proof texts--in context--speak of men who pluck the harp (unmanly) in order too seduce young boys whose hairs had been plucked. Apollo, too, points to a homosexual persona.

David Faust intentionally or ignorantly lied about all of the Bible just as everyone HAS to do to seduce people into the religion of the MOTHER OF HARLOTS who used music and musicians (Rev 18) as SORCERERS to deceive the whole world.

Rick can stack as many scholars as he wishes but they ALL are ignorant of the CONTEXT and STORY line. We have rbegun a reviiew of David Faust and I have lots more to feed out:

http://www.piney.com/David.Faust.Temple.html

David Faust has the temple dedication with loud instruments (really noise playing one note) as seducing God into having a charismatic fit of joy: sounds like an orgy which defines all pagan musical rituals Paul called WRATH.

The fact is that God promised David a TABERNACLE
But Solomon built Him a HOUSE
But, God doesn't DWELL in man-made HOUSES says Stepen and got murdered.

So, GUESS, it wasn't GOD in the house OR box.

In fact, this GLORY or heaviness was the MUSIC-CAUSED MARK that God had SHUT OFF access both to His WORD and His GRACE under the Mercy Seat. Only ONE high priest could come into the presence of GRACE AND MERCY and that ONCE A YEAR and that had no SPIRITUAL cleansing power. How can people be so wretched that they would try to FORCE people back under the Law of Moses where INSTRUMENTS were permitted only in and around Jerusalem (called Sodom) and for ANIMAL SACRIFICES for a Civil state ABANDONED TO STAR WORSHIP.

The church is the RESTORED Fallen Tabernacle of David which had NO MUSIC: the singing would have been cantillation.

For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. Heb 4:8

This is the same REST which outlawed loud music of any form

Heb 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.


Any singer or musician or slick preacher who came BEFORE the Throne of Grace would be EXECUTED which in Hezekiah's Plague Stopping sacrifice even to CLEAN OUT THE GARBAGE. That, too, is Atchley and David Faust etal AUTHORITY that God COMMANDED INSTRUMENTAL PRAISE and WE SHOULD NOT BE DISOBEDIENT.

This fits the PATTERNISM of The Book of Enoch which defines MUSICAL DECEIVERS as those "for whom God comes with ten thousands of his angels to execute judgment." When the Cainites (sons of vipers, crooked generation (skolion singers), sons of the Devil) discovered that they had FALLEN into musical idolatry they just became MORE and more vile and COLLECTED MORE PEOPLE TO AFFIRM THEM because they knew that burning time (Isaiah 30) would eventially come.

Paul gave you the MARK of demon worship by pointing to the PLAY at Mount Sinai which was the musical idolatry of the trinity for which God TURNED THEM OVER to worship the starry host. Once you have fallen: no turning back, no turning back.

 
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69.19.14.18

Worship the SUN God today?

April 1 2007, 1:20 PM 

Easter derives from Ishtar. In Ezekiel the women lamented for Tammuz upon the flute to cause him to RESURRECT and come smell incense and play the Lapis Lazuli flute with them. In early feminist or matriarchal theology she is TRUMPED by Jesus Christ being declared as the SON of the FATHER. She (Eve, Inanna, Zoe etal) is the Mother of Harlots in Revelation 17 and she uses singers and musicians to TRUMP the Living and written word. John in Rev 18 called them SORCERERS who had deceived the whole world. All of the MUSICAL examples is an invitation for God to shut up and sit down. Ezekiel will also speak of the women prophesiers (musicians) who steal words to steal souls.

Ezek 8:13 He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.

Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the Lords house which was toward the north;
and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz. Ezek 8:14

Ezek 8:15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man?
turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.
Ezek 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the Lords house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch
    and the altar, were about five and twenty men,
    with their backs toward the temple of the Lord,
    and their faces toward the east;
    and they worshipped the SUN toward the east.
This is very similar to Rubel Shelly's four Asherah Poles which were used at Jubilee and spread to other churches. They are really Phallic symbols even when devoted to the goddessess (only goddesses were worshiped with music). Don't be surprised, God abandoned Israel to Sun or Astrial deity worship BECAUSE of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai.




Rubel Shelly promotes the S.U.N god to think of the SON God in "baptizing Santa" and Max Lucado in Cosmic Christmas points to the same thing. Again, don't be surprised that Apollo or the Apollyon who unleashed the LOCUSTS as musical performers, is the SUN god.

Ezek 8:17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man?
    Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that
    they commit the abominations which they commit here?
    for they have filled the land with violence,
    and have returned to provoke me to anger:
    and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.
The "nose flute" was used to connotate sexuality. And in Isaiah 24 and 25 the SONGS and the BRANCH are connected as "the branch of the terrible one." That means a song set to instrumental music which is the ultimate MARK of insult invented by Satan as proof of having SEDUCED worship away from God.
Ezek 8:18 Therefore will I also deal in fury:
    mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity:
    and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice,
    yet will I not hear them.
EASTER worships Ishtar is the Mother of Harlots in Revelation 17. She uses singers and musicians to TRUMP OVER the Lion of the Tribe of Judah with SORCERERS. Because CAPELLA is the constellation of a SHE GOAT, and sad songs were called goat songs, I think those Lamenting on the left are the worship team. Ishtar is also EVE Paul knew all about and in Greek she is ZOE.




Jesus refused to go to the Feast of Tabernacles on the opening ceremonies because this was when even the elders went musical and danced publically as a contest. However, MUSIC as in false teachers THEY DID NOT MAKE.

Two priests, with trumpets in their hands, were at the upper gate (that of Nicanor), which led from the Court of Israel to that of the Women.
    At cock-crowing they drew a threefold blast.
    As they reached the tenth step, they drew another threefold blast;
    as they entered the court itself, they drew yet another threefold blast;
    and so they blew as they advanced, till they reached the gate which opens upon the east (the Beautiful Gate).
As they came to the eastern gate, they turned round towards the west (to face the Holy Place), and said:
    'Our fathers who were in this place, they turned their back upon the Sanctuary of Jehovah,
    and their faces toward the east, and they worshipped towards the rising sun;
    but as for us, our eyes are towards the Lord.'

Remembering that the POURED OUT the wine and never drank it:
<>As soon as the wine and the water were being poured out, the Temple music began,
and the 'Hallel' (Psa 113-118) was sung in the manner previously prescribed,
    and to the accompaniment of flutes,
    except on the Sabbath and on the first day of the feast,
    when flute-playing was not allowed, on account of the sanctity of the days.
Of course, instruments were never played on the Sabbath because that would be WORK. No one misunderstood that until the year 1815 when a German synagogue had to hire a Gentile ORGANIST. All apostate synagogues used Gentiles.

I hope you didn't try to TRIUMPH OVER the Lion of the Tribe of Judah playing Holy Whore?

 
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66.82.9.75

FALSE CLAIM: Jesus did not address musical instruments.

April 11 2007, 9:07 PM 

Here is another MISSED THE TEXT claim by David Faust and by all of those promoting instrumental music. It is hard to place the blame because the church once known for its scholarship by being a New Testament church MISSED the First chapter and therefore cannot grasp the plot. As Rubel Shelly etal would say of the old stray "fragments" you are at liberty to WRITE your own narrative theology. But, really people, if you get a degree in Bible and sell you body as a GOSPEL PREACHER shouldn't you be able to hear Jesus condemn the HYPOCRITES--yea, trumpets in the synagogue yet--and look BACK to the prophets? After all, we have lots of Governmental Chronicles but it was the Spirit OF Christ in the writing prophets who utterly condemned the musical hypocrites. So, look at statement 4 by David Faust which Rick Atchley must subscribe to:

FIRST: THE STATEMENT OF THE MISSING LINKS
    David Faust: 4. In the Gospels, Jesus never directly addressed the instrumental / non-instrumental question one way or the other.

    He had a lot to say about the heart of true worship. In the Sermon on the Mount, He unmasked the hypocritical practices of the Pharisees who dishonored God with their outward acts of righteousness. In Mark 7:6-8, He condemned emptyheartless, ritualistic worship

What I read was that He said that worship was IN THE PLACE of the human spirit or heart: quite invisible to the watching world. After all, He said the kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU.

Yes, He said that worship is NOT in houses built by human hands. Worship is NOT done by human hands. The Christian worship is in the PLACE of the HUMAN SPIRIT devoted to the WORD. Paul said that we worship IN THE SPIRIT as opposed to IN THE FLESH. The REASON was that outside there were DOGS which identifies they CYNICS or perverted males identified by their SINGING STYLE.

We might fill in some of the blanks such as the Musical Idolatry at Mount Sinai. For that transgression God turned them over to worship the starry hosts according to Stephen in Acts 7 and numerous Psalms and prophetic repeats. As well, ALL of the church theologians I have read understand what happened when Israel FELL FROM GRACE just as INSTRUMENTS are involved in all of the FALLS FROM GRACE. First, let Jesus RANT at the Jewish clergy as He defines WHAT IS A HYPOCRITE.

Here is how Jesus defined ALL of the religionists who were NOT PERMITTED to understand His word, nor would John baptize them:

Matt 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
Matt 15:8 This people
    draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and
    honoreth me with their lips;
    but their heart is far from me.
Matt 15:9 But in vain they do worship me,
    teaching for doctrines the commandments of men
Jesus mentioned Isaiah but Ezekiel also identifies the HYPOCRITES. Therefore, if you see people TEACHING or DOING these things then know that Jesus does NOT want you to get involved whatever the name of the church--almost none of which are EKKLESIAS or schools of the Bible which Jesus founded.

WERE YOU ABLE TO READ THAT? NOW YOU KNOW THAT JESUS DEFINED A HYPOCRITE: IF YOU CARE TO HEAR ISAIAH AND EZEKIEL RANT ABOUT HYPOCRITES READ ON.

The Isaiah Version Jesus POINTS to those who get VISIONS or have God tell them to SOW DISCORD in order to be PERFORMING HYPOCRITES:

And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed,
which men deliver to one that is learned, saying,
Read this, I pray thee:and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: Isaiah 29:11

And the BOOK is delivered to him that is not learned, saying,
Read this, I pray thee:and he saith, I am not learned. Isaiah 29:12


PAUSE: Jesus warned that the Doctors of the Law TAKE AWAY the Key to Knowledge.

Paul commanded Timothy to READ the WORD, exhort the keeping of that read portion and explaing any eternal doctrine of that read portion. In the NOT singing passaged he commanded that we SPEAK "that which is written" in SCRIPTURE or THE BOOK

WHEN YOU HAVE FALLEN FROM GRACE YOU HIRE HYPOCRITES WHO CLAIM "SPIRITUAL SUPERIORITY" AND ARE THEREFORE PHARISEES.

Wherefore the Lord said, [AS A RESULT]
    Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth,
    and with their lips do honour me,
    but have removed their heart far from me,
    and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men Isaiah 29:13
Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder:
    for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish,
    and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. Isaiah 29:14
Paul always begins a thought pattern by defining the PAGANS who were blinded by music so that they could not understand God's Word BEFORE He begins to show that the CHURCH is to be a place without Scribes or Pharisees who are always hypocrites BY DEFINITION so that we can speak THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN one to another. You may want to look at First Corinthians to see how Paul, like Jesus, points to the prophets to define the HYPOCRITES who by definion are PERFORMERS.

http://www.piney.com/1.Corinthians.1.html

If I do a bit or RANTING I at least won't be a CORRUPTER of the Word which means SELL LEARNING AT RETAIL. And You will never even catch a glimps of this while being sermonized, versiified or classified (some ranting!)

I KNOW THAT LONG POSTS ARE CONFUSING; MAYBE IF I MAKE A BREAK BEFORE QUOTING EZEKIEL.

The EZEKIEL example will define HYPOCRITES and David Faust etal will TRY to convince you that you MUST BE A HYPOCRITE.

 
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69.19.14.25

Did Jesus NOT speak of instruments? PROOF 2

April 13 2007, 9:55 AM 

Praise the Lord I am a NON-PROFIT ranter. When the hireling RANTERS try to seduce your children to go play in the freeway I take the liberty of screaming to warn they tiny tykes who have lost their EARS because they lost the Love of the Word proven by trying to do EKKLESIA with thousands of other people RANTING to a TUNE and a Rock and Roll beat. I MAY be the only witness to prove that what you are doing is ANTI-thetical to that which Jesus died to give us free FROM charge and free FROM "burden laders" which means "spiritual anxiety created by YOUR religious rituals." My nephew got wealthy selling WATER: I told him the next thing he will try is to sell AIR.

SECOND POST: THE STATEMENT OF THE MISSING LINKS
    David Faust: 4. In the Gospels, Jesus never directly addressed the instrumental / non-instrumental question one way or the other.
MANY of the spoken and acted parables of Jesus were to REPUDIATE the "religionism" of the Jews who were NOT faithful Israelites. Rather, because of the Abomination of Desolation in Jerusalem most had fled. The Greeks and Romans imported Cainites or Kenites who were Arabs. All of the sacrificial system including sacrifices and the priestly tribe to replace the PATRIARCHS was a CURSE added because of the Musical Idolatry at Mount Sinai. Moses had participted in a Midianite festival without authority and the rising up to PLAY was a PRECURSOR to what God would abandon them to.

I will fill in some blanks later: for now try to grasp that the MONARCHY and PRIESTLY people were LIKE THE NATIONS because that is what they PRAYED for and what God ABANDONED them to (Acts 7 and all of the PROPHETS). Not only have the musical body snatchers lied about the GENTILE or GOYIM rituals to have God COMMAND INSTRUMENTAL PRAISE so clearly that WE WOULD BE DISOBEDIENT if we did not DO IT, they have gone BEYOND what the Sabazianizing Jews and Israelites would do: a singer or instrument player who STUMBLED into the Holy Places--even to clean out garbage--would be EXECUTED by the "church members."

On the very large OTHER HAND, we hear over and over that God spoke THROUGH THE PROPHETS with the Spirit OF Christ. Anyone who has missed Prophets 101aaa is terminally ignorant or terminally evli when they say OUT LOUD that The Spirit OF Christ and Jesus of Nazareth NEVER ADDRESSED the instrumental issue.

Taking just THE DEFINITION of HYPOCRITES we have Jesus pointing to Isaiah. People turn to PERFORMING HYPOCRITES when they have REJECTED Reading the Word. That is what was commanded in the wilderness, what the ALWAYS existing synagogue did, what Jesus exampled, what He commanded by building HIS ekklesia or synagogue, what Paul exampled, what Paul defined and commanded, what Paul commanded Timothy and what the historic church did for centuries. The singing and instruments are the ALWAYS MARKS of people who have--like the angels in heaven and Eve in the garden--been WHOLLY SEDUCED (sexually) by Lucifer INDWELLING a "singing and harp playing prostitute." Peter identifies an ADULTERER or PROSTITUTE as a CORRUPTER OF THE WORD. Like the Pharisees, they make their CHANGED words inspirited with "musical" or rhetoric SPEAK and SELL LEARNING AT RETAIL. Both non-textual preaching and all forms of music using that which is NOT commanded is a manifestation of the Mother of Harlots who was Lucifer or ZOE.

Now, we might RANT and title this GOING TO SCHOOL IN A MUSICAL KIRKE (circus) when Jesus died to give you rest specificially FROM the arousal of louding singing and instruments the HYPOCRITES used EVEN in the "church house" or synagogue to GIVE GLORY TO GIVING.

The same warning is repeated by The Spirit OF Christ (1 Pe 1:11) in the PROPHETS to repudiate the PRIESTLY PAGANS.

Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still
are talking against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses,
and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying,
Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the Lord. Eze 33:30
And they come unto thee AS the people cometh,
    and they sit before thee AS my people,
    and they hear thy words,
    but they will not do them:
for with their mouth they shew much love,
    [Lord, Lord as amorousness - inordinate love]
    but their heart goeth after their covetousness. Eze 33:31
Indeed, to them you are NOTHING more than
    one who sings love songs (minstrel as a prostitute)
    with a beautiful voice and
    plays (make melody on) an instrument well,
for they hear your words
    but do not put them into practice. Eze 33:32NIV
When all this comes true--and it surely will--
    then they will know that a prophet has been among them ." Eze 33:33
Now, David Faust and all of the CHANGELINGS trying to lift your property say that

JESUS DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING about instrument.

Rather, He warned about HYPOCRITES.


We have let Jesus and Isaiah and Ezekiel RANT to prove that slick speaking, singing and playing instruments DEFINES THE HYPOCRITES.

But, what if JESUS was just RANTING by quoting others RANTING

Are you saying that you need to DISCOUNT Jesus because the "sanging and clanging" has FORCED you to be deprived of reading the prophets who MADE A CAREER of ranting about the OLD Wineskins RELIGIOUS FESTIVALS?

If Jesus permissively burned down their "church house" and burned all of their harps and harpists on a bed of maggots at Topheth (Tambourine), are you saying that Jesus WOULD NOT drive the money changers OUT of the house of prayer with the same PSALLO rope made into a scourge?

If Jesus CAST OUT as profane (like dung) the Musical Minstrels who came to do religious music, is there any way to TRUMP that and say "we have a good mental attitude" when WE do it?

If Jesus CONSIGNED the pipers, singers and dancers to the Agora or Marketplace SEPARATED from the ekklesia with the PSALLO ROPE are you saying that it is GODLY to move the EKKLESIA back into the Marketplace with all of the pagan temples, prostitutes and radish sellers?

Would SUMBUDDY try to prove that SELF-SPEAK twisting all Scripture DOES NOT defacto SILENCE the Words of Jesus Christ? Next, we will prove that HYPOCRITE is heavily loaded toward RHETORIC speakers who also CHARMED and used SORCERY to SOOTHE juries. Because hypocrites in the canto or singing or instrument sense ordinarily were NOT permitted in polite, decent society, the religious hypocrites were often "myhred and cottoned and riddden out of town." We would tar and feather them because they said: "Such people are not permitted in our society." Because they produced nothing they were called PARASITES. Lucian of Samosata wrote a wonderful play about how to "fleece the fatheads and simpletons by playing the flute."

Would just one person like to prove that singing "silly, erotic praise songs" is not violating the direct command and all examples to speak THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN one to another?

Because ALL arousal singing words and functions of instruments define ENCHANTMENT or SORCERY would someone like to explain why thousands of people FLOCK to hear it and reject the Word?

Because a musical instrument or ORGANON is defined as ERGON or "a machine for doing hard work or for producing shock and awe" as in all paganism is NOT rank LEGALISM and defacto SECTARIANIZING?

 
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69.19.14.23

Religious performers HYPOCRITES #3 defined by Jesus

April 16 2007, 4:48 PM 

We have no interest in what people do in repudiating the Ekklesia of Christ on Sunday morning. My task is to point out that people have been working together to MOVE peaceable churches of Christ into the INSTRUMENTAL SECT under the MASK (hypocrisy) of UNITY. My task is further to assert that all of the NACC apologists for instrumental music TWIST every passage of Scripture. There is NO concern for context or for the story line. They twist all known scholarly evidence. The PROOF TEXTS for reviving PSALLO as a COMMAND for instruments all identify older males PLUCKING the harp in order to seduce some young boy (youth minister) for pederasty. This was the MARK of most pagan religions and of the Jews when they tried to get Jesus to bow to Baal in the "abomination of desolation" which still plagued Jerusalem.

David Faust etal will CLAIM that Jesus didn't address the issue so WE can work our will when we KNOW that music has always sowed discord so hypocrites can get "a crust of bread" as a religious TECHNE calles SORCERER in Revelation 18 along with the singers and instrument players.

The implicaton is that their TASK is to unmask Hypocritical practices of the Pharisees. OUR task is to continue with the UNIVERSAL evidence that if you can SEE, hear or smell a religious operative he/she IS by definition a hypocrite. If they change the WORD and compose songs and sermons for pay then they are PHARISEES. If they write and sell false teachings in books, songs, CDs etal they are SCRIBES.

    4. In the Gospels, Jesus never directly addressed the instrumental / non-instrumental question one way or the other.

    He had a lot to say about the heart of true worship. In the Sermon on the Mount, He unmasked the hypocritical practices of the Pharisees who dishonored God with their outward acts of righteousness. In Mark 7:6-8, He condemned emptyheartless, ritualistic worship.

We have listed SOME of the direct WITNESSES against the use of musical instruments. There are many, many more BREATHED into the prophets as the Spirit OF Christ.

Several prophets PROMISE that there will be no Canaanite or TRADERS in the house of the Lord. This includes hypocrites and sophists. Jesus CAST OUT the traders whom we know to be Canaanites or Kenites and NOT faithful Jews. Most of them had fled rather than WEAR THE HAT which meant that they had been initiated into the Abomination of Desolation. By knowing that ZEUS was the "god of Jerusalem" as revealed in Maccabees we can understand that this meant letting the singers and instrument players into the Holy Places and sexuality and homosexuality to be a member in good standing.

NEXT, THE DEFINITIONS OF THE WORD HYPOCRITE AND A VAST BODY OF LITERATURE PROVES THAT ALL MUSICAL, RHETORICAL OR DRAMATIC PERFORMERS ARE THE HYPOCRITES.

Hupokrinô reply, make answer 2. expound, interpret, explain [outlawed by Peter as private opposition] II. Att., speak in dialogue, hence play a part on the stage, be an actor, kômôidian, of orators and rhetoricians, represent dramatically, use histrionic arts, exaggerate,

Rhętor-ikos , ę, on, oratorical, hę rhętorikę (sc. technę). These are the craftsmen lumped with the singers, musicians and "grinder" doing merchandise in the house of prayer. Rev. 18:22

Latin canto to produce melodious sounds (by the voice or an instrument), to sound, sing, play (class. in prose and poetry; rare in Cic.). 2. Of an actor, to represent a part, to act, tragoedias [goat singers], to use enchantments, charms, incantations, to enchant, to charm,

Canorus adj. [canor] , of melody, melodious, harmonious: melody, charm (in speaking): sounding melodiously, musical, euphonious: orator: chorus, song and dance,


You DO know that MELODY does not authorize HARMONY and has no relationship. Even if Paul had NOT put the melody in the PLACE of the human heart, externally it would mean "A series of single tones." That would define the cantillation or SPEAKING whereas "melody as tunefulness belongs to the 19th century." That is how you can MARK people who twist Scriptures.

Hypocrita or -es = hupokritęs. I. A MIME who accompanied the delivery of an actor by gestures, Suet. Ner. 24; Quint. 2, 17, 12; 11, 3, 7.-- II. In eccl. Lat., a hypocrite, Vulg. Job, 8, 13; id. Matt. 6, 2; id. Luc. 12, 56 al.
    The local Zoe Group brought in a new teknokrat whose MINISTRY seems to be to minister to the Musical Worship Teams and assure them that Plato (etal, etal) was WRONG: They can rest asured that the MIME in any form is NOT marked as a homosexual. This is called the Platonic Fallacy. Now, we have people sowing discord trying to PROVE that music and other "histrionic arts" do NOT mark them as the end time Abomination of Desolation. Well, THAT is why about half of the people FLEE BABYLON unless you have used the Navigating the Winds of Change for at least a decade.
Chor citharista ae, m., = choro kitharistęs [Guitar], I. he who accompanied the chorus on the cithara, Suet. Dom. 4

So are the paths of all that forget God; and the hypocrites hope shall perish: Job 8:13

OOPS, there goes the COLLECTION PLATES as show and tell: so women are NOT authorized to STAND OVER the flock to give the "audience" something to THINK ABOUT.

Therefore when thou doest thine alms,
    do NOT sound a trumpet before thee,
    as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets,
    that they may have glory of men.
    Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. Matt 6:2
Why would one who serves the Lord's Supper, hum, sing or play instruments to PREVENT remembering the Death of Christ NOT be hypocrites? Why would someone want to SING empty-headed ditties or erotic praise songs with or without MACHINES like TRUMPETS when the DIRECT COMMAND is to READ or SPEAK "that which is written" NOT be hypocritical? Why would a preacher who needs to WARM UP the audience with complex harmony which ABRADES but deadens the perception of people NOT be classed as a hypocrite? If he uses this to ENHANCE the TAKE then why isn't Peter correct when he labels them spiritual adulterers.

OOPS, there goes the LEADER of prayers other than the presiding elder who reads some TEXT. Don't have to worry aobut wimmen doing that in an ekklesia.

In the synagogue the PRAY-ER was really the READ-ER of the Word of God. When you HYMN a HYMN as did Jesus at Passover you PRAY a prayer.
    Matt 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are:
    for they love to pray STANDING in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets,
    that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
    Matt 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet,
    and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret;
    and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

This is an EITHER / OR : Hypocrite or humble worshiper.
It is NOT a BOTH / AND thingy.

Wouldn't you say that special PRAYers, speakers, singers or musicians who CLAIM to replace that direct command and FOR A WAGE belongs to A SECT of the Hypocrites? They have rules, regulations, meetings and ways to enlist or dismiss those from their CRAFT which Alexander Campbell called the CRAFTIEST craft of all. Recorded history takes note of the professional PERFORMERS or hypocrites who would have infested the Feast of Tabernacles which was a giant fertiliity ritual TO WHICH Jesus refused to go up until the opening day was over.

OOPS, FOLLOWING IN THE STEPS OF JESUS AS ADVISED, no pulpit to pound.
Jesus STOOD UP to read the Scriptures: the pulpit held up the Bible and not the preacher.
Then, he had the uncommon decency to SIT DOWN.

"Although the sermon was not an essential part of the synagogue service, the translation and explanation of the Scripture lesson was a step in the direction of a preaching service.
    There is evidence that an exposition of the lesson formed a part of the Sabbath afternoon service.
    In earliest times the sermon seems to have been connected with the reading from the Prophets.
    Anyone able to instruct might be asked to preach (Acts 13:15).
    The preacher spoke from a SITTING position on an elevated place (Luke 4:20).
    (Feiffer, Charles F., Between the Testaments, p. 63 Baker Book House).
Why were the PROPHETS so important:

We know that God spoke through the Spirit OF Christ in the prophets.
The Chronicles and other STATE DOCUMENTS define a nation abandoned to paganism.
The modern SOWERS OF DISCORD preach from the National Chronicles.
Therefore, they are NOT speaking the message of the Spirit OF Christ in the PROPHETS who universally condemned and MARKED singing and music as EVIDENCE that they had rejected the Word and themselves had been rejected BY GOD.

In case you MISSED it, that is what Paul commanded Timothy the Evangelist to do.

A HYPOCRITE is a PERFORMER who uses human arts as speaker, singer, actor, dancer.
Jesus radically CAST OUT all PERFORMANCE;

Singers,
Prayers
Speakers
Giving as an act:

    ALMS must slip invisibly from OUR HAND to the hand of the DESTITUTE.
    Jesus CAST OUT those to manned the COLLECTION PLATES.
    Jesus CAST OUT the musical minstrels (hypocrites all)

    A Hypocrite STANDS UP to be seen.
    Jesus and others SIT DOWN and Dialog the read word.
    Paul never PREACHED until Midnight: he dialoged or communed.
Now, Atchley, Faust etal identify those who DO NOT use instruments or "machines for doing hard work" as HYPOCRITES. As one poster denies anyone the right to TEACH that which has been taught anywhere, and the autonomous congregations deny anyone to rock the boat, the claim of HYPOCRITES intends to silence everyone everywhere. One who DOES NOT use machines in an attempt to "enchant" the paying audiend is NOT a hypocrite because they make other blunders. We have shown that HYPOCRITES defined by Jesus in pointing to prophesy and identifying PERFORMANCE roles in the synagogue MARKS all of the PERFORMING ARTS as they are faithfully defined by the words for HYPOCRITES. You cannot be a "first century" Hypocrite unless you are a THEATRICAL PERFORMER. Getting paid for theatrics also marks people as adulterers who CORRUPT the word to "sell it at retail."

If we were REAL hypocrites we would procure a MEGA PREACHER, use SINGERS including females to STAND OVER the flock, use Musical Minstrels to perform WITCHCRAFT or SORCERY. Everyone would FLOCK to watch us perform as speakers, singers in instrument players which Jesus POINTED TO to define a HYPOCRITE.

 
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PROOF: That the 1906 date is a bad DIVERSION or Slight of Hand.

May 6 2007, 3:30 PM 

I have heard from two "musical" preachers who have bailed out of the general "watchtower slavery" along with the musical stance. Others probably fear to write and I can understand the danger of exercising the liberty Jesus died to give FROM the burden laders and laden burden. I don't see how honorable supporters of such wholesale spreading of false information can continue the NOT commanded "lay by and store" to support the MANY Paul called robbers. As I remember the trinity of sermons, even the memebers were warned not to challenge the elders who apparently had the "spirit" person backing their move.

The NACC has long CLAIMED that non-instrumental churches of Christ SECTED OUT of them and they INTEND to get them back. That would be as honest as Anglican - Methodists saying that the Christian Church SECTED out of them (O Kelly etc) and the METHODIST insist on recovering their stolen goods. Of course, the contemporary Christian Church sected out of the Disciples in 1926 and BROUGHT ALONG their instrumental ROOTS based on their (never confirmed) High Church authority of the Church of England. Those who have swiped and got clean away with churches of Christ CONFESS to being postmodern which rejects "strict construction" of the Bible or inspiration in general. Honorable members of the NACC denomination may not know that they believe what they believe because they DO NOT believe the Bible: especially the Old Testament. Perhaps that is why it comes so easy to even lie about the OLD MYTHS to get a "strict construction" to deliberately sow discord.

To see that NO ONE but the Pope ever approved of the right to CHANGE the Word of God to "keep up with the culture." Not even the Catholics ever "sang congregationally with instrumental accompaniment."

http://www.piney.com/MuBrownInst.html

http://www.piney.com/HislopMusic.html

AN INTERESTING SUMMARY:


C. B. Arnette, Those East Main Street People and their Houses, Murfreesboro, TN, writes the history of buildings including the Church of Christ. Woodson-Choate in Blue

1. Sometime after the forming of the Church of Christ in Murfreesboro, TN a "house of worship was built" and they met in January, 1833 with Tolbert Fanning preaching the first sermon.

2. "Despite any claim to the contrary, it is unmistakably evident by 1848 that the introduction of the organ into the worship of the Restoration churches was becoming a point of contention.

3. A document was registered in Murfreesboro, TN on July 22, 1851 nothing that the East Main Street Church of Christ "has lately erected a house of worship."

4. James R. Garfield as part of the occupying army, participated in the worship of East Main Street Church of Christ in 1863. He led the communion and the singing was a capella.

5. In 1866 Alfred Blackman deeded to The Christian Church and also The Church of Christ.

6. That proves that the Christian Church after the war COULD HAVE met with an existing Church of Christ BUT had already SECTED OUT of the Restoration Movement as part of the Society and Organ FACTION. That was long before 1906.

7. J. E. Choate and Woodson, Clanging Brass, note: We suggest Restoration historians look elsewhere for causes leading to the division of the Restoration churches in 1906. As a matter of fact, churches did divide indiscriminately over the organ, North and South, and also East and West." (p. 39)

8. "As a matter of fact only one church in 1870 in Memphis had adopted an organ and there were only six churches [instrumental] in Tennessee at the turn of the century. The leading Southern writer, David Lipscomb, did not see it as important at the time.


9. The Taking Captive of churches of Christ didn't really get under way until about 1887: that was when PSALLO was first invented to try to force the organ into peaceable churches.

10. A convention was called and Myher was sent out to promote a denominational structure under the Missionary Society. As well, he intended to introduce the organ in EVERY church in Tennessee. Garrison said they could do that in 5 years.

11. Andres Ivarson Myher was brought from Missouri to Nashville as an evangelist of the Missionary Society. He began in 1890 at $1500 per annum plus expenses; Lipscomb noted that he was paid more than the state governor.


12. But some organists made over $5,000.oo to ATTRACT the crowds. Of course it was big money if you could sign up even the children in Tennessee as Life Members, sell the Bibles, "authorized" song books and Bible School literature.

13. It is noted that Myher had subscribed to the idea that the Old Testament was not inspired but was influenced by the myths and legends of the time. If Myher had remained in Norway or St. Louis there might still be no division.

"In 1905 the pro-organ sect made a surprise announcement. They had written Dr. J. H. Thayer of Harvard University for his scholarly opinion on the meaning of psallo. The letter was passed on to Dr. J. H. Ropes as Dr. Thayer had died.
    Dr Rope's decision was as clear and sweeping as that of Judge Cooper.
    The harp was not inherent in psallo even as far back as the Septuagint (250 B.C.).

    Dr. Ropes stated that psallo did not include the harp in the beginning of the Christian era if it ever had.
    Dr. Ropes, a liberal higher critic, favored the organ and deplored that Christians could seek a uniform method.

    Dr. Ropes, a liberal higher critic, favored the organ and deplored that Christians could seek a uniform method
    This was the old J. Carol Stark and George P. Slade contention that
    should have been long dead in the water, but it is still swimming today." (p. 116)
Of course NO scholar ever DEFINED Psallo as meaning to PLAY an instrument: the Lexicons simply show in WHAT CONNECTIONS the word PLUCK is used. While one PLUCKS a harp string you ALWAYS have to define WHAT is to be plucked.

There are no MUSIC words connected with the "ekklesia or synagogue or school of the Bible." In fact for those whose eyes God has not poked out and can still read black text on white paper and understand the meaning of SIMPLE WORDS, the word SPEAK was both inclusive and exclusive in the church in the wilderness, the approved example of Jesus, the practices of Paul, the command to Timothy, the definition of SPEAKING the Word and the universal practice for centuries. The word SPEAK excludes both POETRY and MUSIC. Not only do false teachers have to use the HIGH CHURCH authority of forcing the Word to fit their BUDGET but the are forced to DIRECTLY CONTRADICT the clear written Word of the Living Word.

Will SOMEONE defend the false teachers? Is there not a SINGLE scholar out there to defend Rick? Chris? No?

 
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