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Mostly false teachers at Tulsa

March 26 2009 at 9:26 PM
 
from IP address 67.142.130.27

WATCH OUT FOR THE TULSA WORKSHOP

http://www.piney.com/TulsaWorkshop.html

The usual line up of FALSE TEACHINGS and SINGERS fill the program at the Tulsa Soulstealing Workout this year as usual.

Even those who have lied, cheated snd stolen the church houses of widows get return billing probably because the likes of Jeff Walling fills everyone with mirth by his buffoonery. Isn't it amazing that WRATH in Hebrew is marked by jesters and buffoons and wrath or ORGY in Greek identify the singers, clappers, instrument players and hand flangers as a MARK.

Ezekiel speaking by the Spirit of Christ warns about the prophesiers holding workshop and "stealing words from one another." They think that their lies can force people to remember Christ's NAME. Rots of ruck as we used to san in Japan.

 
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Stephen

64.149.165.2

Get up and Get out!

March 27 2009, 12:43 PM 

Ken, you and Donnie need to go to Tulsa and talk to these men in person. Go with an open heart and love and talk about why you feel they are in need of change. Because until you do this is just idol gossip. Which is no better than, in your heart, what these men do. Sin is sin it has no class rankings.

 
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Wake up and read this e-mail

March 30 2009, 10:52 PM 

QUOTED FROM AN E-MAIL:

"... I am troubled by the innovations, because they seem mostly to lean toward entertainment and behavior that I grew up associating with Pentecostal orgiastic 'worship services.' I quit going to Tulsa due to this. ..."

 
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Stephen

64.149.165.2

Email?

March 31 2009, 12:40 PM 

Email is the newest form of gossip in our time. What does that really tell you or show you. Want to know the best way to find out what is really going on? Want to see for yourself? Want to find out what is behind these mens heart? Go! Don't quote an email!

 
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Paul's word WRATH means ORGY by the MAD WOMEN.

April 1 2009, 3:28 PM 

Someone wrote a letter to CM after a visit and retreat from Tulsa where Keith Lancaster did his bit: it was so embarassing that she ran from the place. Capella was the goat constellation as part of the "starry host" the Jews worshipped whaterver they called their "god." The real a cappellas were the CASTRATED French opry singers the Pope brought to the Sistine Chapel where chapel is CAPER named after a goat-skin cloak as a general's chapel.

"The papacy also continued the practice of creating castratos (a cappella worship Leaders who were boys castrated before puberty to keep their singing voices high-pitched) for their own entertainment, long after it had fallen in disfavor throughout Italy."

"Into this artificial world came the castrati, who had first gained a place in Italian churches for their 'angelic' voices. Castratos are said to have been the

world's first superstars, because of the great sums paid to them for their singing,
and scheduled engagements that took them to cities across Europe, to please their enthusiastic followers.

"How can we hear their music today, since we have no more castratos to listen to? Well, during the current renaissance in Baroque music, some castrato roles have been carefully recreated by counter-tenors also known as male altos or sopranos. Other musical parts are sung by women who use a natural alto or soprano range,

but adopt a style which attempts to make the music sound
appropriately 'masculine',at least for male roles.

There is much debate as to which is better--but keeping in mind the fact that most early composers wrote 'trouser' roles for women to sing, and that castratos frequently presented women's roles, especially in their youth, it would seem that gender stretching is an original part of this music, and perhaps one reason for its continuing dramatic impact."


Paul warned about them were to RECRUCIFY Christ meant to AROUSE MENTAL EXCITEMENT thorugh music.

Brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished. Galatians 5:11

As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves! Galatians 5:12

The Goddess Cybele (The Sophia - Zoe Usurpation)

"Here, devote to me thy manhood and become one of my faithful dogs! (emasculated priests) I shall be quick, and the cut will be clean!!!" Catullus:

"Oh, Great Goddess, Goddess Cybele, Goddess and Lady of Dindymus! May all your fury be far from my house! Incite others, go! DRIVE OTHER MEN MAD!!!"


Cybel was a primary name of the Mother of Harlots (Rev 17) who used lusted after FRUTS (same fruits as in Amos) as speakers, singers and instrument players John called SORCERERS. These faithful dogs are worshippint the Mother goddess and they are "emasculated" spiritually or they could not perform their pole dance at a "christian" workshop.

It drives the MALES MAD but the effeminate LOVE to watch them cause what Carol Wimber (Vineyard, Wineskins) called reaching a SEXUAL LIKE CLIMAX with the spirit. Of course, when the "workshop of evil attenders" (Ezekiel) attend they are there as partners and to "steal words from one another." I can understand why being OUTED makes people so sensitive.

Here is how OTHERS see you!!!


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http://www.piney.com/CatullusMu.html

 
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Stephen

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ERRRR....

April 2 2009, 12:17 PM 

Wow and I thought Stretch Arm Strong was good at stretching things!

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Stephen,

When are you going to begin discussing or debating issues? So far, I haven't learned anything of substance from you.


    
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Stephen

64.149.165.2

Why?

April 2 2009, 3:58 PM 

There is no reason to debate you, because I was you! I know exactly where you come from and your theology behind it. I know your text for proof and I know how deeply imbedded it is in you. I know because I was I you. A fierce supporter of accapella only worship. I believed that it was a salvation issue. I approached others in the same fashion that you do. I could just as easily debate myself. I still believe in the gospel of Christ. I still believe that you can fall from God, I believe you must be baptized for the cleansing of your sins, but I also believe that we have incorrectly turned traditions into salvation issues.

 
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67.142.130.24

The MARK and SOUND of the VIPER RACE: Musical Enchanter(sess)

April 4 2009, 4:14 PM 

2 Cor 11:1 WOULD to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.

Paul speaks of Eve in the sense of a BRIDE espoused but BEGUILED. Now, Eve didn't EAT an apple. Ezekiel 31 says that the Assyrians were the Tallest Trees in the garden of Eden.

2 Cor 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

2 Cor 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ
.

Simplicity is hard to find in the days of performance religion which blinds you to the Words of God:

G572 haplots hap-lot'-ace From G573 ; singleness, that is, (subjectively) sincerity (without dissimulation or self seeking), or (objectively) generosity (copious bestowal):bountifulness, liberal (-ity), simplicity, singleness.

Deceiving usually produces a sexual influence through the performing arts replacing the true Bible Teacher.

Exapataô deceive or beguile, deceive thoroughly, surround yourself with compassion for your swindling tricks, [color=red]seduce a woman, Hdt.2.114

AS A RESULT OF THIS SEDUCTION:

1 John 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning,

Disciple of Christ: that we should love one another.

Disciple of the Devil:Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brothers righteous. 1 John 3:12

G3834 panourgia pan-oorg-ee'-ah From G3835 ; adroitness, that is, (in a bad sense) trickery or sophistry:(cunning) craftiness, subtilty.

The serpent was a Musical Enchanter or enchantress.

Here is an example of what Paul meant:

Heredotus 2.CXIV. As soon as he received the intelligence, Thonis sent a message to Proteus, who was at Memphis, to this effect: "A stranger is arrived from Greece; he is by race a Teucrian, and has done a wicked deed in the country from which he is come. Having beguiled the wife of the man whose guest he was, he carried her away with him, and much treasure also. Compelled by stress of weather, he has now put in here. Are we to let him depart as he came, or shall we seize what he has brought?" Proteus replied, "Seize the man, be he who he may, that has dealt thus wickedly with his friend, and bring him before me, that I may hear what he will say for himself."

This is what happens when the Viper Race try to STEAL THE BRIDE OF CHRIST!

"They "set their lies to melodies in order to deceive the simple minded" always the LOWEST CLASS in the Classics.

In the Garden, the serpent was the.

H5175 nâchâsh naw-khawsh' From H5172 ; a snake (from its hiss):serpent.

H5172 nâchash naw-khash' A primitive root; properly to hiss, that is, whisper a (magic) spell; generally to prognosticate: X certainly, divine, enchanter, (use) X enchantment, learn by experience, X indeed, diligently observe.

H5173 nachash nakh'-ash From H5172 ; an incantation or augury:enchantment.


1) snake, serpent

2) with the ancients, the serpent was an emblem of cunning and wisdom. The serpent who deceived Eve was regarded by the Jews as the devil.

The Ancient tribes absorbed NAGA worship from Persia and India and Moses is trying to warn a people already fallen under the spell:

http://www.piney.com/naga.html

In the Greek:.G2789 the serpent is

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In Fourth Maccabees 18, the Devil works on a sexual, seducing way and in the garden was a Musical Enchanter(ess).

4Macc 18:6 - The mother of seven sons expressed also these principles to her children:

4Macc 18:7 - "I was a pure virgin and did not go outside my father's house;
but I guarded the rib from which woman was made.

4Macc 18:8 - No seducer corrupted me on a desert plain, nor did the destroyer, the deceitful serpent, defile the purity of my virginity.


Jesus and John will call the Scribes and Pharisees Hypocrites they were called a RACE OF VIPERS. They would be baptized with a VIOLENT WIND and then OF FIRE as the chaff is burned up as worthless.

Matthew 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

They also called them a CROOKED RACE. The viper or serpent, like much of the whole Bible, points outside of itself to people who would know where to LOOK if they cared. Both the Jews and later Christians woudl be able to look to the "bible" of the pagan religions as assuredly John points to a well known series of "legends" or stories the "preachers" told them. Pointing to the beast from the sea;

Echidna (Greek: "Snake"), monster of Greek mythology, half-woman, half-serpent. Her parents were either the sea deities Phorcy. A child, Ladon (the dragon who protected the Golden Apples of the Hesperides), metaph., of a treacherous wife or friend.

Isn't that AMAZING that Eve ate of the FRUIT in the midst of the TALLEST TREE in Eden as the Assyrians were called.

This monster was involved as craftsmen of the sacrificial system: A viper came out of the blaze and "then the venom, like that of some deadly, cruel viper, began to devour him."

Remember that the TECHNE in Revelation 18 is connected to the religious speakers, singers and instrument players John called Sorcerers. The techne includes all of these religious arts and crafts including "theater building and stage managing." Sure: standing in the "holy place" claiming to lead you into the presence of God.

tektonos 3. master in any art, as in gymnastics, Pi.N.5.49; of poets, tektones sophoi (sc. epeôn) Id.P.3.113; tektones eupalamôn humnôn Cratin.70 (ap.Ar.Eq.530); tektones kômôn, i.e. the choreutai, Pi.N. 3.4; t. nôdunias, i.e. a physician, Id.P.3.6; dexias cheros ergon, dikaias tektonos a true workman, A.Ag.1406.

When the viper came out of the fire and bit Paul this is not just an event in history. Maybe we will speak of the CRAFTY HYPOCRITES which is the MARK of the Serpent.

 
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