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How easy it is to blaspheme and be applauded!

January 5 2011 at 3:28 PM
Ken Sublett 
from IP address 67.142.130.49

People are forced to blaspheme the Spirit of Christ in all of the prophets: Christ repudiates all of the PATTERNISM people use to COMMAND people to participate in what they call instrumental worship of GET OUT. Planning to lose up to half of the owners in order to make the bait and switch falls easily within the postmodern ethics. They say "we gonna take your church house and turn it into a theater for holy entertainment 'cause we gonna save more souls." All recorded history connects religious music to sorcery as did John in Revelation 18. People can easily ignore that and the REST of the Bible because they HEAR spirits and I don't doubt it a bit. However, John identifies sorcerers with dogs (catamites) for whom the lake of fire was created.

1. David Faust from the NACC has convinced a few dupes:

http://www.piney.com/David.Faust.Temple.html

A . In the Old Testament the Lord didn't merely "permit" the use of musical instruments as aids to worship.
He commanded their use.
B. In the old Testament the Lord didn't merely "permit' the use of musical instruments as aids to worship.
He blessed their use.


One example 300 years after the last plague stopping exorcism is THEIR patternism: their patternists had been ABANDONED to worship the starry host (at the temple) and there was NO REDEMPTION.

2. However, They say the LORD SAID when Christ in the prophets said the LORD HAS NOT SAID.

They follow the Lying Pen of the Scribes and blaspheme CENI.

Jer. 8:7 Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times;
and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming;
but my people know not the judgment of the LORD.
Jer. 8:8 How do ye say, We are WISE,
and the law of the LORD is WITH US?
LO, CERTAINLY IN VAIN MADE HE IT;
THE PEN OF THE SCRIBES IS in vain.

Who are the WISE Jesus said the Father HIDES HIMSELF?

WISE IS: Sophos A. skilled in any handicraft or art, clever, mostly of poets and musicians, Pi.O.1.9, P.1.42, 3.113; en kithara s. E.IT1238 (lyr.), cf. Ar.Ra.896

Sophis-teia , h(, A. sophistry, D.S.12.53, Plu.2.78f, D.L.2.113, etc.; opp. sophia, Ph.1.10; s. mantik, of Balaam
Sophis-tês , ou, ho, master of one's craft, adept panu thaumaston legeis s (lying wonderful speaker)
with modal words added, hoi s. tn hiern meln (Melody in a holy place)
That would get the Levite PATTERNISTS executed.
II. from late v B.C., a Sophist, i.e. one who gave lessons in grammar, rhetoric, politics, mathematics, for money,

That is CORRUPTING THE WORD: selling learning at retail. How can they sell the FREE Word (Isa 55) when Christ outlawed speaking THEIR OWN WORDS (Isa 58)?: Paul said of the Corinthians that "fools love to be fooled."

The Lying Pen of the Scribes do not speak to the Godly people

Mendax II. Transf., of inanim, and abstr. things, lying, false, deceptive; feigned, fictitious, counterfeit, not real, etc. a liar should have a good memory,

Recorded history ranks "poetry and music" with lying: outlawed by the command to SPEAK.

Scrba , ae, m. scribo, I. a public or official writer, a clerk, secretary, scribe (whereas librarius or scriba librarius denotes a private secretary or amanuensis;

2. (Eccl. Lat.) A doctor of the Jewish law, one whose duty it was to guard and expound the sacred text, Vulg. 2 Reg. 8, 17; id. Matt. 23, 2 et saep
.

Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers!
for ye have taken away the key of knowledge:
ye entered not in yourselves,
and them that were entering in ye hindered.
Music from mystery MEANS to "make the lambs dumb before the slaugher." It certainly works, doesn't it? ::clappingoverhead::

Jesus called the Scribes (doctors) and Pharisees, Hypocrites: in the Ezekiel 33 version Christ listed slick preachers, singers and instrument players.

How can they get away repeating the Lying Pen of the Scribes? In the words of Paul "Fools love to be fooled: the more they pay the better the fooled."

3. Claiming that God has said, When God has NOT said Is defined by Christ as blasphemy.

 
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Ken Sublett

67.142.130.11

PREACH the Word by READING the Word--only

January 8 2011, 2:11 PM 

In another forum on the word INFALLIBLE, the problem with Missionaries in strange places seems to justify violating the direct command to READ the word and the direct command against Private interpretation of further expounding. It is a fact that with the Bible many groups have read themselves into the truth without someone to ENHANCE the Word of God in song and sermon.

The only way to be INFALLIBLE is that everyone SPEAK THE SAME THINGS which means SPEAK THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN (Rom 15 and the NOT-musical passages.)

Rom. 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak,
......and not to please ourselves.

Areskos or Placeo outlaws rhetoric, singing, acting or playing instruments.

Rom. 15:2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.

Edification here means ONLY education: no human can supply a jot or tittle..

Rom. 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning,

This is the only resource both inclusive and exclusive.

......that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
Rom. 15:5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
Rom. 15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2Cor. 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit:
......and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

No: all you are authorized to do is to READ it and let the words stand. The NAME of Father, Son, and Spirit (thought, breath, word) is Jesus Christ.

The NAME of the another COMFORTER (parakltos)

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, (parakltos)
......that he may abide with you for ever;

John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: [size=12pt][color=red]I[/color][/size] will come to you

1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin,
......we have an advocate (parakltos) with the Father,
......Jesus Christ the righteous:

The only person guided by The Holy Spirit is guided by Christ the Spirit who claimed that "My words are Spirit and Life." The Spirit OF Christ is the Mind of Christ (1 Cor 2). The Spirit of Christ rides along with the Words of Christ.

In Romans 15 where SELF-pleasure outlaws all of the performing arts, and commands using "one mind and one mouth" to deliver "that which is written." Paul calls that "Scripture." If you are in the jungle you MUST have a valid translation: you cannot invent doctrine.

Eph. 4:21 If so be that ye have heard him,
......and have been taught by him,
......as the truth is in Jesus: [color=blue] that's the Spirit OF truth[/color]
Col. 2:7 Rooted and built up in him,
......and stablished in the faith,
......as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
2Th. 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast,
......and hold the traditions which ye have been taught,
......whether by word, or our epistle.

1Tim. 4:13 Till I come, give attendance to (public) reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.

Titus 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught,
......that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Titus 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers,
......specially they of the circumcision

IF YOU ARE IN FELLOWSHIP WITH THOSE WHO TEACH ERROR THEN RE-READ THE BLASPHEMY THREAD

Convince Elegkho cross-examine, question, disgrace, put to shame, muthon e. treat a speech with contempt, Il.9.522; e. tina put one to shame, Od. 21.424
2. test, bring to the proof, bring convincing proof, refute, confute, bring convincing proof, b. put right, correct, prove by a reductio ad impossibile, 5. get the better of,
6. expose, tina lrounta Pl.Tht.171d, cf. X.Mem.1.7.2, M.Ant.1.17; betray a weakness, Democr.222. Plat. Theaet. 171d Xen. Mem. 1.7.2


http://www.piney.com/Titus.1.Ordain.Elders.html

The word CONVINCE does not mean to sermonize and counsel endlessly but to REFUTE HIM and DISQUALIFY him. Claiming to fellowship all kinds of error is really arrogance.

In the Qahal or Synagogue or Ekklesia words which define the ASSEMBLY no one was permitted to make up the subject material to be presented: that came from a higher authority. If anyone tries to sing with our without instruments in either they would be hurt really bad. Rhetoricians occassionaly got loose in the Greek ekklesia to present their own veiws but were all frepudiated.

The Campbells defined:

Church is A School of Christ (that's what disciples of Christ do--ONLY)
Worship is reading and musing the Word: (that's what diciples of Christ do)

The pattern for the Church in the Wilderness and exampled by Jesus was:

Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Luke 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,


 
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Ken Sublett

67.142.130.11

PREACH the Word by READING the Word--only

January 8 2011, 2:11 PM 

In another forum on the word INFALLIBLE, the problem with Missionaries in strange places seems to justify violating the direct command to READ the word and the direct command against Private interpretation of further expounding. It is a fact that with the Bible many groups have read themselves into the truth without someone to ENHANCE the Word of God in song and sermon.

The only way to be INFALLIBLE is that everyone SPEAK THE SAME THINGS which means SPEAK THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN (Rom 15 and the NOT-musical passages.)

Rom. 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak,
......and not to please ourselves.

Areskos or Placeo outlaws rhetoric, singing, acting or playing instruments.

Rom. 15:2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.

Edification here means ONLY education: no human can supply a jot or tittle..

Rom. 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning,

This is the only resource both inclusive and exclusive.

......that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
Rom. 15:5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
Rom. 15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2Cor. 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit:
......and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

No: all you are authorized to do is to READ it and let the words stand. The NAME of Father, Son, and Spirit (thought, breath, word) is Jesus Christ.

The NAME of the another COMFORTER (parakltos)

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, (parakltos)
......that he may abide with you for ever;

John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: [size=12pt][color=red]I[/color][/size] will come to you

1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin,
......we have an advocate (parakltos) with the Father,
......Jesus Christ the righteous:

The only person guided by The Holy Spirit is guided by Christ the Spirit who claimed that "My words are Spirit and Life." The Spirit OF Christ is the Mind of Christ (1 Cor 2). The Spirit of Christ rides along with the Words of Christ.

In Romans 15 where SELF-pleasure outlaws all of the performing arts, and commands using "one mind and one mouth" to deliver "that which is written." Paul calls that "Scripture." If you are in the jungle you MUST have a valid translation: you cannot invent doctrine.

Eph. 4:21 If so be that ye have heard him,
......and have been taught by him,
......as the truth is in Jesus: [color=blue] that's the Spirit OF truth[/color]
Col. 2:7 Rooted and built up in him,
......and stablished in the faith,
......as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
2Th. 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast,
......and hold the traditions which ye have been taught,
......whether by word, or our epistle.

1Tim. 4:13 Till I come, give attendance to (public) reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.

Titus 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught,
......that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Titus 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers,
......specially they of the circumcision

IF YOU ARE IN FELLOWSHIP WITH THOSE WHO TEACH ERROR THEN RE-READ THE BLASPHEMY THREAD

Convince Elegkho cross-examine, question, disgrace, put to shame, muthon e. treat a speech with contempt, Il.9.522; e. tina put one to shame, Od. 21.424
2. test, bring to the proof, bring convincing proof, refute, confute, bring convincing proof, b. put right, correct, prove by a reductio ad impossibile, 5. get the better of,
6. expose, tina lrounta Pl.Tht.171d, cf. X.Mem.1.7.2, M.Ant.1.17; betray a weakness, Democr.222. Plat. Theaet. 171d Xen. Mem. 1.7.2


http://www.piney.com/Titus.1.Ordain.Elders.html

The word CONVINCE does not mean to sermonize and counsel endlessly but to REFUTE HIM and DISQUALIFY him. Claiming to fellowship all kinds of error is really arrogance.

In the Qahal or Synagogue or Ekklesia words which define the ASSEMBLY no one was permitted to make up the subject material to be presented: that came from a higher authority. If anyone tries to sing with our without instruments in either they would be hurt really bad. Rhetoricians occassionaly got loose in the Greek ekklesia to present their own veiws but were all frepudiated.

The Campbells defined:

Church is A School of Christ (that's what disciples of Christ do--ONLY)
Worship is reading and musing the Word: (that's what diciples of Christ do)

The pattern for the Church in the Wilderness and exampled by Jesus was:

Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Luke 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,


 
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Ken Sublett

67.142.130.34

The SUBMISSIVE never PLAY harps in God's presence.

January 12 2011, 11:16 AM 

The Elders FIRED God and demanded a human king: the purpose was to silence God who had in fact abandoned them to worship the starry host BECAUSE of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai.

The HARPS were connected to the curse of the sacrificial system as they worshipped the STARRY HOST in the not-commanded temple during burnt offerings which God DID NOT COMMAND.

The BEASTS are ZOON or ZOE: Sophia and Zoe connect to Eve in revelation: the truth being hidden in parables from the clergy from the foundation of the world. Sophia is the Mother Goddess of the prophesied end time religion. Sophia-zoe are documented in the classics as the promoting the LAWS (nomos) with music and this is the mark of pederasty (the dogs who burn with the sorcerers).

zon , to/, A. living being, animal, z. ponron, of women, contemptuously, be free from thes animals, BEGGARS Plat. Tim. 77b

Plat. Tim. 77b in fact, which partakes of life may justly and with perfect truth be termed a living creature. Certainly that creature which we are now describing partakes of the third kind of soul, which is seated, as we affirm, between the midriff and the navel,
.....and which shares not at all in opinion and reasoning and mind (spirit)
..... but in sensation, pleasant and painful, together with desires


They are in opposition to the LOGOS which is the religion of the Written Word of the Living Word. Zoe is identified in the ancient documents as the "Beast and Female instructing principle."

Both the ELDERS and BEAST fall down and CANNOT play harps. Those who are still skipping, singing, clapping and playing with or without instruments are the LOST. Only those who COLLAPSE before a Holy God have any hope.


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The "elders and beasts" cannot READ the Word which is FIGURATIVE: any elder or Levite who went before a Holy God in the temple would be EXECUTED.

HOLDING THE HARPS OF GOD IS NOT PLAYING THE HARPS OF DAVID.

Holding the harp OF GOD means to aprehened the Word of God.

1907. epecho, ep-ekh´-o; from 1909 and 2192; to hold upon, i.e. (by implication) to retain; (by extension) to detain; (with implication, of 3563) to pay attention to: -- give (take) heed unto, hold forth, mark, stay.

Echo STOP, Keep balanced, keep on guard 9. possess mentally, understand, taming, do you understand? attend! listen! know of a thing, damazo subdue, conquer, be subject to one another. Subdue epithumia passion, longing after, sexual appetite,.

hippn dmsin Il.17.476; tekhnn Hes.Th.770; pant' ekheis logon A. Ag.582, cf. E.Alc.51; ekhete to pragma S.Ph.789; ekheis ti; do you understand? Ar.Nu.733: imper.ekhe attend! listen!

e. phresi keep in one's mind, it kept still, 2. hold fast,


Col. 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility
and worshipping of angels,
intruding into those things which he hath not seen,
vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
Col. 2:19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands
having nourishment ministered, and knit together,
increaseth with the increase of God.

While Christ said that God DID NOT command sacrifices.

Jamison-Fausett-Brown Revelation 8 notes that:

"In the Jewish temple (court), musical instruments and singing resounded during the whole time of the offering of the sacrifices, which formed the first part of the service.

They also played during the offering of Jesus on the Cross: the Levites MOCKED Him. We now offer the fruit of the lips and our PRAISE is our incense. Woe to those who are CONTINUING to sacrifice Jesus: they even HIRE people to act as LEVITES, an old infant burning cult from Egypt. Jacob warned: "Do NOT attend the assemblies of the tribe of Levi."

But at the offering of incense, solemn silence was kept ("My soul waiteth upon God," Ps 62:1; "is silent," Margin; Ps 65:1, Margin), the people praying secretly all the time. The half-hour stillness implies, too, the earnest adoring expectation with which the blessed spirits and the angels await the succeeding unfolding of God's judgments. A short space is implied; for even an hour is so used (Re 17:12 18:10,19).

Duwmiyyah (h1747) doo-me-yaw'; from 1819; stillness; adv. silently; abstr. quiet, trust: - silence, silent, waiteth.

THOSE STILL STANDING AND PLAYING OR DEFENDING THE MUSICAL MOCKERS PLEASE MARCH OVER TO THE LAKE OF FIRE: That's where Christ in Isaiah 30 PREDESTINATED the false preachers, singers and instrument player. They serve under ZOE, the BEAST as the female teaching principle. MARKS are given as MARKS.


 
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Ken Sublett

67.142.130.19

Preacher said, God hath not said, preacher blaspheme.

January 13 2011, 1:41 PM 

ALL OF THOSE IMPOSING INSTRUMENTS REST ON THE LEVITES MAKING NOISE WHILE BURNING GOATS. Rick Atchley RESTS their souls on this patternism.

The first two reasons assert that under the Old Testament, God did not just allow instrumental music, He commanded and blessed it. Rick offered the following passages for these contentions: 2 Chronicles 5:13-14; 7:6; 29:25-26; Psalm 33:1- 3; 92:1-3; 150:1-6.

Never mind that the godly tribes were quarantined. No singer or player went INTO or NEAR a holy thing or place on the penalty of death. Some of these patterns are separated from the last by up to 300 years.

CHRIST IN THE PROPHETS WARNED ABOUT THE LYING PEN OF THE SCRIBES.

Stand in the gate of the Lords house [courts], and proclaim there this word,
......and say, Hear the word of the Lord, all ye of Judah,
......that enter in at these gates to worship the Lord. Jeremiah 7:2

Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel,
......Amend your ways and your doings,
......and I will cause you to dwell in this place. Jeremiah 7:3

Trust ye not in lying words, saying,
......The temple of the Lord, The temple of the Lord,
......The temple of the Lord, are these. Jeremiah 7:4


Jer. 8:8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is WITH US?
......LO, CERTAINLY IN VAIN MADE HE IT;
......THE PEN OF THE SCRIBES IS in vain.

For I spake NOT unto your fathers, nor commanded them
......in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt,
......concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: Jeremiah 7:22

THE PROPHECIES BY CHRIST WERE FULFILLED BY JESUS CHRIST: JESUS AND PETER MAKES THE APOSTLES AND PROPHETS THE ONLY TRUTH.

John 6:44 No man can come to me,
......except the Father which hath sent me draw him:
......and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:45 It is WRITTEN IN THE PROPHETS
......And they shall be all taught of God.
......Every man therefore that hath heard,
......and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

2Pet. 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words
......which were spoken before by the HOLY PROPHETS
......and of the commandment of us the APOSTLES of the Lord and Saviour:

By using the PATTERNISM based on ignorance of the Word of Christ in the prophets, they have FITTED you out to be cast alive in the Lake of Fire.

IT WAS THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WHO SPOKE THROUGH THE PROPHETS AND NOT LYING SCRIBES whom He called hypocrites by naming speakers, singers and instrument players in Ezekiel 33.

......1Pet. 1:10 Of which salvation the PROPHETS have inquired and searched diligently,
............who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
......1Pet. 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time
........................the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify,
when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ,
............and the glory that should follow.

CHRIST SPOKE ONLY THROUGH THE PROPHETS TO CONDEMN THE PATTERNISM OF THE MUSICAL IDOLATERS.

Heb. 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners
......spake in time past unto the fathers BY THE PROPHETS

God did NOT speak through the lying pen of the Scribes who recorded the Monarchy which God had NOT commanded.

Heb. 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us BY HIS SON
......whom he hath appointed heir of all things,
......by whom also he made the worlds;
Heb. 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory,
......and the express image of his person,
......and upholding all things by the WORD of his power,
......when he had by himself purged our sins,
......sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high

THOSE WHO DELIBERATELY SOW DISCORD BY QUOTING THE LYING PEN OF THE SCRIBES (hypocrites: speakers, singers, instrument players) are defined by the Spirit:

Jer. 23:16 Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
......Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you:
......they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart,
......and not out of the mouth of the LORD.

Jer 23:17 They say still unto them that despise me,
......The Lord hath said, Ye shall have peace;
......and they say unto every one that walketh
......after the imagination of his own heart,
......No evil shall come upon you.

Despise tthe Word of God of God and using your own words is:

Blasphm-e , pf. A. beblasphmka D.18.10:speak profanely of sacred things, eis theous Pl.R.381e; offer rash prayers,

1. When "A" spirit tells you that God COMMANDED the burning of the goats at which the MILITARY instrumentalists made a great noise means that He COMMANDED the preacher to impose instruments after already discording the flock and PROMISING that "he" would never allow instruments on Sunday.

2. ALL of Scripture proves that God HATH NOT SAID.

3. They are being led by a "lying spirit" and are called BLASPHEMERS. There is no redemption as there was no redemption after the musical idolatry at Moung Sinai.

4. All who defend and promote blasphemers are blasphemers.

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

THAT WAS THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST IN THE PROPHETS REPUDIATING THE SCRIBES.

1Pet. 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time
......the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify,
......when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ,
......and the glory that should follow.

As far as I can determine all of the musical blasphemers trust in the "lying pen of the Scribes" and are ignorant of the Spirit ONLY in the writing prophets. If you follow a blind guide you will fall into a ditch (pit, hell) just as surely as the blind guide. If you have AFFIRMED that God approves of instrumentsl music and you FELLOWSHIP and endorse those who follow the lying pen of the Scribes, you too can be a blasphemer without redemption.

 
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Phil Starnes

192.223.163.6

Yeah, right.

May 9 2011, 1:01 PM 

"All recorded history connects religious music to sorcery as did John in Revelation 18"

Revelation 5:8:
And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.

Revelation 15:2:
And I saw what appeared to be a sea of glass mingled with fireand also those who had conquered the beast and its image and the number of its name, standing beside the sea of glass with harps of God in their hands.

I know, they just "hold," them, they don't really play them.

 
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Ken Sublet

67.142.130.17

You've got it: now lets work on the REST of the changelings

May 10 2011, 10:08 AM 

Church is an ekklesia or synagogue: Christ commanded it for the wilderness.
It was INCLUSIVE of Rest, Reading and Rehearsing the Word of God (only)
It was EXCLUSIVE of vocal or instrumental rejoicing. Godly people just don't even have the urge that when Jesus comes to be our only teacher when the elders (only) teach that which has been taught.

A disciple doesn't look for legalistic loopholes to procure musical performers known to speak only to the lust of the eyes and the lust of the ears. And knowing and planning to sow massive discord: you have an outbreak of prophesied demonism.

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Isn't it amazingly amazing at Therion does not speak of a quadraped other than the dogs Paul excluded from worship (Philippians 3) and PROPHESIED about the elders being WOLVES. Both of these speak of gender-bleed always marked by performing the "women's roles."

Jesus warned that the doctors of the law "take away the key to knowledge." Even fairly reputable "scholars" have turned to rend Christ.

http://www.piney.com/John.T.Willis.Instrumental.Melody.html

This is so embarassing I blush out loud but it IS IN THE BOOK.

 
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The Elders knew that the membership would never approve such a plan. Using the tools of the "Community Church Movement"(consultants, books, seminars, meetings,planters,seeders) they slowly started initiating change so it was never noticed by the members until it was too late.....

At the heart of the plan was the fact that old members were going to be driven off so new techniques could be used to go out and reach the unchurched through new "Contemporary Holy Entertainment" methods developed by the "Community Church Movement"

Old members had to be kept on board long enough to get their plans ready, or the funds would not be there to pay for the new building. So by the plans very nature, it had to be secret.

The church had no plan in effect to renew or approve elders. There was never any need. The elders had always been "as approved by God". 10 of the last 15 elders would begin to shed some doubt on that.

The Elders did not even need a majority at first, because some of the elders went along unwittingly.

This edition starts shortly after some of the members begin to smell something strange in January 2001. Later editions may go back and fill in some of the timeline.

To even start to understand whats happening here, you must read the background materials in the first of the book.

This is only the first edition, and not the end. New editions will be printed as needed. To keep abreast of current changes, please visit our web site; http://www.concernedmembers.com/madison

Here is the list of players;

5 Godly Elders
10 Not so Godly Elders
120 "Deacons" (allegiance unknown)
2,800 - 4,000 church "members"
2 "teners" (people who have publicly confessed to have broken all ten commandments)
Unknown number of "sinners" (This is what the 10 elders call us.)
Unknown number of "demons" (Flying everywhere, to many to count)
 

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