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Messianic Jews, Jewish Identity, Hebrew Roots

February 19 2012 at 7:22 PM
Ken Sublett 
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People who tell you that A spirit said that God commanded musical ministers in the PATTERNISM of the Levites have fallen for the Large effort to force churches of Christ into JUDAISM just as the first century always plagued the Churches to their own harm.

There is no preacher or scholar in the once-Church of Christ schools now confiscated who can tell you anything about the story line of the Old Testament.

This is first of several papers to quote scripture and define words to prove that it was because of Musical Idolatry or Demon worship at Mount Sinai that God gave them THE LAW OF MOSES in place of the Abrahamic Covenant made byh Christ.

They will tell you that God commanded "instrumental praise" but God commanded SOOTHSAYERS with INSTRUMENTS to execute anyone who came near their holy place: that means PODIUMS as Christ in Isaiah and Paul in 1 Corinthians 1 made clear. There WILL BE NO high places or PODIUMS in a Church of Christ nor TAKER OF SHEKALS.

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Brian Cade

Re: Messianic Jews, Jewish Identity, Hebrew Roots

February 19 2012, 8:43 PM 

Problem is, none of the passages thrown after the argument mention anything about music, instrumental or otherwise. You're scripture-twisting, i.e. trying to fit the scripture to the argument rather than the other way round as is proper. Again, you fail miserably.

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Ken Sublett

Re: Messianic Jews, Jewish Identity, Hebrew Roots

February 20 2012, 2:08 PM 

The subject is not instrumental music. Look again and see whether you think God gave the Jews theland of Canaan without obedience? Do you believe they rejected the Christ covenant with Abraham and were abandoned by God.

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Re: Messianic Jews, Jewish Identity, Hebrew Roots

February 20 2012, 3:46 PM 

I remember being taught that the most normal Christian in the world was a converted Jew. The rest of us are mutts.
Seems to me also you don't know what you're talking about. Time and again the Jew turned away from God and time and again He restored them.

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