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Re: There is NO silence: Paul commanded you NOT to do what you WANT to do.

May 23 2012, 6:49 PM 

More lunacy. Your desperation is showing, Ken. You're losing this argument and your audience.

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Re: What god was worshipped by the Jews and Progressives? Part ONE

May 24 2012, 10:02 AM 

All of the "progressives" build on the foundation of the Law of Moses. Even though Christ said that God DID NOT command sacrifices or burnt offerings, they say that the accompanying instrumental "noise" is "a" spirit telling them that God commands "instrumental praise" in MY congregation.

When the Israelites refused to hear The Book of The Covenant of Grace, they fell into musical idolatry.
As a result God gave them The Book of The Law and sentenced them to captivity and death in Assyria and Babylon
He gave the Levites to EXECUTE 3,000 instrumental idolaters: The COMMAND was to use instruments to warn people that they would be executed if they came near the Jacob-Cursed Levites or had ANYTHING to do with their assemblies. Moses proves that Israel (Jews) had been abandoned to Sabazianism or the OLD New Wineskins gods. Leaders of small groups as small as ten persons were to be gathered (Church of Christ) for instruction only: vocal or instrumental rejoicing was outlawed because this would be a MARK of people who had despised the Word and had been consigned to the Babylon mother of Harlots (Rev 17) who used "lusted after fruits" as rhetoricians, singers, instrument players, religious teknokrats and the Brides-Bridegroom-Grinders would identify the MUSES and GRACES as sacred prostitutes.

Deuteronomy 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee
..... a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee,
.....and will put my words in his mouth;
.....and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Deuteronomy 34:10 And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,

Acts 3:17 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers.
Acts 3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out,
.....when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Acts 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ,
.....which before was preached unto you:
Acts 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things,
.....which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers,
..... A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
Acts 3:23 And it shall come to pass,
.....that every soul, which will not hear that prophet,
.....shall be destroyed from among the people.

.....Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
.....and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

Acts 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.
Acts 3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets,
.....and of the covenant which God made with our fathers,
.....saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

.........Galatians 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant,
.............that was confirmed before of God in Christ,
.............the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after,
.............cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
.........Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
.........Galatians 3:27 For [what I mean is] many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
.........Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free,
.............there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
.........Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christs, then are ye Abrahams seed,
.............and heirs according to the promise.

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God,
.....having raised up his Son Jesus,
.....sent him to bless you, in turning [Converting] away every one of you from his iniquities.

Christ prophesied and Jesus repeated that the ONLY way He will remit sins or save is by baptism as obedience to a direct command.

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Acts 7:37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel,
.....A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, unto me; him shall ye hear.

Acts 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness
.....with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina,
.....and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Acts 7:39 To whom our fathers would not obey,
.....but thrust him from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt,

Acts 7:40 Saying unto Aaron, Make us gods to go before us:
.....for as for this Moses, which brought us out of the land of Egypt,
.....we wot not what is become of him.
Acts 7:41 And they made a calf in those days,
.....and offered sacrifice unto the idol,
.....and rejoiced in the works of their own hands.

Euphrain , Ep. euphr-, fut. Att.155.12, Pi.I.7(6).3
Pind. I. 6 Just as we mix the second bowl of wine when the men's symposium is flourishing, here is the second song of the Muses for Lampon's children and their athletic victories: first in Nemea, Zeus, in your honor they received the choicest of garlands,

Christ in all of the prophets DENY those who claim that the Law of the Monarchy gives THEM the power to impose THEIR OPINION on other people:

> For I spake NOT unto your fathers, nor commanded them
..... in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt,
..... concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: Jeremiah 7:22

> But this thing commanded I them, saying,
.....Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people:
.....and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you,
.....that it may be well unto you. Jeremiah 7:23
> But they HEARKENED NOT, nor inclined their ear,
..... but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart,
.....and went backward,

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Re: What god was worshipped by the Jews and Progressives? Part ONE

May 24 2012, 3:21 PM 

You're becoming predictable and boring.

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ken sublett

Proof that God condemned and rejected Israel

May 24 2012, 7:06 PM 

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