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The meaning of Greece and greeks, historical error and the heart of Propaganda !

August 29 2002 at 7:07 PM
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The word greek has no good meaning in any langauge - In Roman "greek" means "farm hands", "Grk" in Ancient Macedonian means "one who suck blood of another".
In Latin, "Graeciano" means "thief!".
gre-ki is a turkish word meaning poor man, and in mordern macedonian grce or grche means noise ! What we must see here is that greeks or greece is no relation to Hellas which was never a united country or a kingdom or even a race of people, becuase the people never saw eachother as the same but atheanians, spartarian, thessalians etc.. meaning they cant claim somthing that never excisted becuase greece was only invented in 1830 by the United kingdom which showed these people how to live as a country, To show this the country needed a king or leading and the first king of Greece was king Otto 1 1832 - 36. He was realted to Queen Victoria and had no reletion to greeks

Greeks is simply a morden term for Christain turks proved by DNA test and with there dark complection and black hair you can tell that they are very different to Macedonians and other anceint peoples of the Balkans.

Greece is really (FTCOG) Former Turkish Colonie Of Greece

---There actually wasn't a people called "Greek," just a collection of little independent cities. "Greek" the label was theoretically placed on them by the Romans. They spoke of themselves as Atheans, Spartians, Etc.. and so on. The Translation of the word "greek" is farm hands, The Romans used them as Slaves for crops and looking after live stock. This was a mockery to these people that thought they had so much knowlage and democracy and in the end they turned out to be nothing more then Slaves.---

Anceint Maps show there was never a country called "greece" but only seprate cities.

Even in the holy bible there is no mention of Greece or FTCOG. That should tell you that Greeks or Greki never existed in the biblical times.

15:26 For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.

Greece is mentioned as Achaia which is actually Macedonian land !

Most history books are full of propaganda becuase they mention greece as anceint and mix these people up as Macedonians or Thracians, greeks have no history and dont deserve a place in history untill 1830 when there country was first put on map.

kral_aleksandar

 
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Prometheus
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Re: The meaning of Greece and greeks, historical error and the heart of Propaganda !

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September 26 2002, 1:15 PM 

Funny because we are called Ellines (Hellenese) and the only reason the latin GREKOI (GREKI) came into existance was because the old Greek tribe called the GREKI were the first to come into contact with the Romans, thus they named every Greek person as such.

Same reason why the Turks/Persians call us Yunani, because they met the IONIAN Greeks first.

Fyrom sheep f'uckers.

 
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Barbarian
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When have your people even been called elleni? show me proof of this word in archelohical

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March 18 2003, 8:36 AM 

finds one coin statue etc? other then in propaganda texts there is no mention of the word hellas this never exzisted as for macedonia there are plenty of coins etc found al over the balkans but never the word greece or hellas if aleksandar united the greeks and he was a hellen why didnt he have coins made with hallas and name his empire hellenic? easy propaganda to see through, and one more thing if greece was united why wasnt sparta united too? isnt sparta a greek city? well done kral aleksandar i like your artical show these greek fools the truth

 
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True

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November 19 2002, 6:08 AM 

Interesting article and I couldn't have said it better. The facts speak for themselves, regardless of what goes down in the history books. It's only print.

 
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vasilis
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propaganda=you

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June 3 2003, 11:50 PM 

regardless of what you think or say you cannot argue that you are a victim of Tito propaganda..you have no ties with macedonia or anything macedonian..truth is you dont know who you are or what you are..your only tie with a form of identity is denial..by the way wasnt your 'glorious' nation put on the map in 1992?

 
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August 24 2003, 1:56 PM 

If it wasn't for the communist regime, fyrom would still be good old southern Serbia.
Macedonia is just a region, there is no such thing as macedonian people/nation!
All you "macedonians" are Serbs! Well, at least you used to be. Now you have too much turkish blood.

SOUTHERN SERBIA, NEVER MACEDONIA!

 
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You make me laugh

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July 24 2004, 2:45 AM 

Are you crazy man?
Macedonians used to be Serbians....hahahaaa

And to ask you something:
If they were Serbs why they speak a Bulgarian dialect?
Those dialect received the status of a language but it doesnt matter..

Just look at your mother tongue -- Serbian.
It's not a language at all.
Serbian,Croatian,Bosnian and Montenegrin are just different dialect of one and the same language. (it's funny to claim that Montengrin exists but I feel the same way when I hear this for Macedonian )



Here's the source --http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_languages

Look the info.If you dont believe just look anywhere to find that Macedonian is closer to Bulgarian ..and even some linguists claim that this is one and the same language.

South Slavic languages:

Western Section
Slovenian - (SIL Code, SLV; ISO 639-1 code, sl; ISO 639-2 code, slv)
Serbo-Croatian - (SIL Code, SRC; ISO 639-1 codes, bs, hr and sr; ISO 639-2 codes, bos; ISO 639-2(B) codes, scr and scc; ISO 639-2(T) codes, hrv and srp)
After the break-up of Yugoslavia they became officially considered as three languages, Serbian, Croatian, and Bosnian, though the differences (apart from the choice of script) are more political than dialectal. For more information see Differences in official languages in Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia.
Romano-Serbian - (SIL Code, RSB; ISO 639-2 code, sla)
Eastern Section
Macedonian - (SIL Code, MKJ; ISO 639-1 code, mk; ISO 639-2(B) code, mac; ISO 639-2(T) code, mkd)
Bulgarian - (SIL Code, BLG; ISO 639-1 code, bg; ISO 639-2 code, bul)
Old Church Slavonic - extinct (SIL Code, SLN; ISO 639-1 code, cu; ISO 639-2 code, chu)

It is perfectly clear that the so called Macedonian and Serbian are each in different language subgroup.

and read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarian_language

"Bulgarian demonstrates several linguistic innovations that set it apart from other Slavic languages, such as the elimination of noun declension, the development of a suffix definite article (possibly inherited from the Bulgar language, or taken from Albanian), the lack of verb infinitive, and the retention and further development of the Proto-Slavic verb system. There are various verb forms to express non-witnessed, retold, and doubtful action."

Serbian and Bulgarian/Macedonian are close languages but very different in linguistic view.

Any Objections???






 
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