Let's talk Pike County! A friendly place to discuss Pike County, KY. If you live in, have visited or if you are a former resident of Pike County....let's reminisce, discuss issues or whatever is on your mind.
the reason nothing gets done in Pike County is because voters look at the political party instead of looking at their candidates. You voters say, "I have voted ________ party all my life and I guess that I always will".
Folks, that is PLAIN STUPID.
Look at their qualifications. Look at their character. Look at their lives. Are they honest? Are they parents? Do they go to church? What do they really believe? What are they willing to do for us?
hopefully this time in Pike County the voters will send a message "loud and clear" that it is time for a change, and let to them know we are tired of what has gone on for the past. We need to elect people who are qualified for the job, who don't care to take a stand, and who will include the citizens in the decision making process. This forum is great for voicing your opinion, but there are a lot of people who don't have access to a computer. We need to send letters to the editor of the Appalachian News Express encouraging people to go and vote for the person who is qualified and to emphasis that we definitely need a change.
For the sake of me I can't understand why everyone is so concerned over the up coming election. It will not be any different than any of the others,One wants this the other wants that one when it comes down to it they are all in the same boat, crooks, cheats, and making money off our tax dollars for nothing and I do mean nothing.Just look at the Judge for the last 3 years what have we accomplished? If you're an honest person then stay out of the politics. If you guys really and I mean really knew how the election was done you would never cast another vote. I know the real truth behind it all and I don't cast a vote since. So wake up you guys will never have anyone that will be a working person judge. Hope I don't step on too many toes.
So, tell us the real truth behind the election that you are privy to and noone else, and what Judge are you talking about, surely not the Judge Executive who fought most magistrates to make water for everyone first priorty. I didn't notice Her being invited to meet with a Gov. who didn't believe that Black Lung was a real disease and who thought a convention center was more important than the water his hometown neighbors are drinking. But oh guess what, now the Gov. believes that Black Lung is real after all, so I guess you do have a point about dishonesty.
I know how some of them operate. The deals under the table, the way the election is won the night before and all the moonshine they have hauled and given away. But, I still vote.
Since you have been close to some politicians, maybe
by Gaye Harris
you can shed some light on what you mean by "deals under the table". I have often heard people say that this takes place, but know one ever tells what goes on.
Only a small number of people vote in elections. Yes, I agree that many are probably bought the night before with promises of gravel and liquor. However, if the majority of people voted then the politicians would have to be responsible to the majority. This would clean up a lot of wrong doing in itself. If you really want Pike County to change, then you should be encouraging people to vote, instead of discouraging it. Maybe you are a politican yourself and are trying to keep the number of jugs of liquor you will need to buy to a minimum.
NO MS BRANDON I'M NOT A POLITICIAN, JUST A TAX PAYING PERSON LIKE YOU THAT IS TIRED OF THE SAME OLD SAME OLD. I THINK YOU ARE LIVING IN A DREAM WORLD IF YOU EVER THINK THERE WILL BE FAIR POLITICS. YES THERE ARE HARD WORKING HONEST PEOPLE BUT ONE PERSON ALONE CANNOT CHANGE THE SYSTEM. LOOK AT MRS GIBSON NOW SHE TRIED AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED THERE. AS FOR YOUR GOV. NOW WELL I THINK HE SEES HE MADE MISTAKES AND HE'S TRYING TO CORRECT THEM ALITTLE TOO LATE. IT SEEMS TO ME US WORKING PEOPLE HAVE NO CHANCE OF WINNING ANYTHING. JUST ANSWER THIS QUESTION FOR ME. IF EVERYTHING IS FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE. WHY DO ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT HAS NEVER WORKED A DAY IN THEIR LIFE AND ARE IN JAIL AND HOOKED ON DRUGS DOING DRAWING SSI WITH THE GOLD CARD AND THE POOR MINERS AND SENIOR CITIZENS HAVE MEDICARE AND STILL HAVE TO PAY. COULD SOMEONE TELL ME THE ANSWER TO THAT. I GUESS THAT'S GOOD GOVERNMENT HUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think the Gov. saw the error of his ways, I think he just decided to be Senator instead of a coal operator. Everyone needs to vote even if they write someone in..at least do that in protest if theres no candidates that measure up.I agree about the medicare, not everyone has a pension to help them survive and an insurance card to cover medicine, the poor old people sometimes has to decide between medicine and food.
I never said that one person could change the system. I said that the majority could make those changes. Voter apathy is destroying our country. No, I don't like very many of the people who run for office, however, I research the candidates the best I can and then select a candidate. I believe that in order to have the right to criticize the government, you have to participate in the selection of it. I hope you change you mind and decide to participate.
Take a stroll to your local public library and check-out "The Law," by Fredrick Bastiat. [French Economist]
Below are some quotes from page 10:
"Man can live and satisfy his wants only by ceaseless labor; by the ceaseless applications of his faculties to natural resources. This process is the origin of property"
"But it is also true that a man may live and satisfy his wants by seizing and consuming the products of the labor of others. This process is the orgin of plunder."
"Now since man is naturally inclined to avoid pain- and since labor is pain in itself- it follows that men will resort to plunder whenever plunder is easier than work. History show this quite clearly. And under these these conditions, neither religion nor morality can stop it."
"When then, does plunder stop? It stops when it becomes more painful and more dangerous than labor."
"It is evident, then, that that the proper purpose of law is to use the power of its collective force to stop this fatal tendency to plunder instead of to work. All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder."
Now, "Dear Anonymous, I trust you will see and conclude that the law has been "perverted." Guess what?
We voted it in! We howled for give-aways! Therefore, in essence, we've embraced MARXISM-COMMUNISM whose main tenet is; "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Profound, huh?
There you have it... through the eyes of Hillbilly Hal nestled in the Tennessee hills near 'Good Old Rocky Top.'
Oh yeah, someone [author-teacher] once told me a long tome ago, "That those that do not read, do not think, and those that do not think, get their thinking done for them." Sounds "Orwellian," doesn't it?
Gee! I wish I had read more.
Kudos, and don't ever give-up by not speaking out.
I like what you are reading. However, I guess that I think of plunder as the big man taking advantage of his power and position and profiting from the little man's work unjustly. From what I understand, you view it as the opposite, those persons living on government assistance plundering from the wealthy. Did I understand you correctly?
What Author Bastiat is saying is; 'the law' has been perverted by legislators that cater and respond favorably to voters that demand payment / sustenance from the government by inflicting "PAIN" [labor] on their fellow citizens. NOT JUST THE WEALTHY!
By PAIN, the author correctly describes labor as being painful.
This process, when abused is immoral, IMHO.
There are instances whereby, we as taxpayers should permit, or vote for candidates that vote for responsible benevolent programs that assist the less fortunate or disabled.
We as individuals should practice this also toward our neighbors. After all, God commands us; "to love our neighbors," Doesn't He?
I trust my comments clarify the author's thesis, and my personal sentiments on the subject to your satisfaction.
KUDOS & PLUMES from Rocky Top, TN for being duly concerned and interested in the affairs of our REPUBLIC. (: [A NATIONS OF LAWS]
thank you for clarifying it for me. I believe it is our Christian duty to care for those who are truly unable to care for themselves, but I despise those who manipulate the system, both rich and poor, to profit personally. I intend to look for the book and read it.
You are right, one person alone can't change things, but
by Gaye Harris
if we were to elect several who were willing to do right, then maybe, just maybe, things will change. But, we can't give up voting, we have to keep trying. Despite all it's flaws,I would much rather have an opportunity to vote then have none and wake up one day under dictatorship. As for those people who have never worked and are on drugs and in jail, maybe you should let the Social Security Administration know. Under social security law now you CANNOT receive SSI benefits if you are found to be addicted to drugs and alcohol.
isn't going to change the system. But I am a strong believer in voting.
What about the millions the Taliban gave to the top US officials for their campaigns? (Check it out.) We complain about about a pint of liquor or $10.00 for a vote? We had better be worrying about the country as a whole and do the best we can by voting "for the lesser of two evils" instead of one or two local politicians.
Don't get me wrong.....I love politics. I know how dirty it is...first hand, but I still vote.
I also know that everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, just as I am entitled to have mine.
On the subject, did you know that VP Dick Cheney profited from the last attack on Iraq? It is true. One of the companies he owns sold the equipment, at a profit, to Iraq to get their oil business up and running again. It was done through the foreign division of his company, so that it was technically legal, however was it a moral thing to do? And I can't help but question the present administrations attacks of Iraq, Do they need to sell more equipment? If Iraq is the enemey of America, then Americans, especially VP's don't need to do business with them.
I agree with you on alot of your issues, but this issue with cheney is only a touch of what goes on. Remember when Bush campaigned for the working people, well low and behold the big credit card companies that he took campaign funds from are the ones he is helping like the new bankruptcy law to help cover them etc. It would be hard for any of them to do away with all the vp's that give money to them for their compaigns, I think we have Freedom Of Speech no matter if we vote or what, but I also think that if I pay taxes I have a voice in whatever topic I want.
Until the major press organizations begin reporting all of the news it is very hard for people to know what is really going on. I get a lot of my information from a publication called the "Progressive Populist". They report news that never makes news. Another good magazine I like to read is Mother Jones. And I agree, if you pay taxes then you have Freedom of speech. How many corporations pay zero in taxes each year? I bet the majority don't pay anything. This morning on Sunday with Charles Kuralt, the op ed piece was on the huge refunds that Enron Corporation got. It is disgusting.
YES IT IS AND I HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT FOR THE WORKING MAN OR WOMEN. WE ARE THE ONES THAT HAS TO PAY FOR ALL THIS HOG WASH IN WASHINGTON. I AGREE WITH YOU ON ALOT OF THINGS
The question is what to do to take back our government. I am not advocating a civil war or anything like that, but we have got to start holding people accountable for what they do in office, both locally and nationally. I was very involved with a campaign a few years back campaign finance reform. If we could get big money out of politics then the little person has a chance of making a difference. I guess we are getting some campaign finance reform as a result of the Enron disaster, but I'm afraid it is too little too late. It galls me to hear people like Mitch McConnell talk in favor of keeping corporate cash in elections, saying that to stop it would be to deny these corporations their freedom of speech. He has made this statement, seriously. I think it is ridiculous to state that a corporation has a right to freedom of speech. Only citizens should have that right.
If you really know what goes on before the election,
by Gaye Harris
let us in on the secret, or better yet, why don't you do something about it. That's the problem now. We need people to encourage voting instead of discouraging them. As for honest people staying out of politics, we need to encourage honest people to run for office. As the old saying goes, evil prevails when good people sit back and do nothing. I hope this time the veil is removed from the voters' eyes and that they see what has been going on, and that they go to the polls and send a message "LOUD AND CLEAR" we are tired of what has been going on.
I like the board real well, and I like to keep it as it is because I don't like giving my email out, there's alot of weird people in this world. I like everyone on the board because they seem to be like me down to earth and honest in their replies. So I thought I knew Big Man but I think I have him confused with someone else. I graduated in 1968 from VHS. I just like reading and responding to the board. Is that ok for now!!!!!
yes I know Big Man too. I could get back at him here for something, but you seem serious......so I won't say what I was going to. I will say Big Man is a fine upstanding man in the community and a good friend. He also went to school with my ex at Virgie.
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Pikeville High School will be preforming a play this weekend at 8. It is called "Hillbilly Wedding" and is very cute and VERY funny!
Get away from the everyday humdrum.. Support the arts!
I would love to! I have to go to Bluefield and pick up my grandson. Seems that other people have a way of planning what some other people are going to do, especially aroud here.
where the little boy splashes water on the soap and tell his mother that he took a bath. I always get two plays mixed up, "Hillbilly Wedding" and "Feudin' Over Yonder", both are nice plays.
I hope they have more plays in the Breaks this year. It won't be as far to go and I don't like being questioned in road checks about where I have been when I am late coming back toward VA.
I would love to have some of the candidates come visit this message board. We could get them into some of the issues then! Of course you never know who you are talking to and people could pretend to be someone they are not...okay NOT a good idea
I realize some crackpots might come on this forum and lie about who they are. The candidates could leave their email addresses so we would know who is really posting.
The false posters can be recognized if you look hard enough.
I would love to hear what the candidates have to say.
write up some issue questions for the candidates (similar to the newspaper interviews), e-mail them to them and give them a deadline for a response. Tell them you are going to post them on a local discussion board. See what they have to say.
Nemesis did that for some of the county races in Dickenson County. We could post the Q&A as a link so it could be read by all at any time and they wouldn't have to scroll through the messages.
Go for it......you know more about the issues there than I. Let me know what you decide.
I know Jeff Anderson, PA Helvey, Ricky Justice, Jerimiah Elswick, Roger May and Homer Skeens are the Democratic candidates. I was Very impressed with Jeff Anderson. He seems to be very qualified and concerned with the needs of the people of Pike County. He also came to my front door and answered all of my questions. In my opinion, he seems to be the best person for the job.
I think all candidates are all very good and outstanding people. Dist 1 needs someone that is interested in helping the people of Pike County and not just looking for a job or trying to use the office of Magistrate as a stepping stone for further political advantages. We need strong support for the people in Pike county.
I agree. Now I have to think about the motives of those who are running. Which of them is using this as a stepping stone..and who is interested in helping those in their district.
It would be nice to be a mind reader..might be scary too!
It would be very nice to be a mind reader, I agree. You just have to go with the candidates whom you have spoken too. The only candidate that has personally come to my door is Jeff Anderson. I feel he is very qualified and has won me over as someone who cares for the people of Pike County. No other candidates have approached me as of this time.
Anderson appears to be a sincere candidate. I have also spoken with him. Maybe we SHOULD look in this direction. He is the only one who has made contact with me!
if you saw me or not. I would have stopped to talk to you, if I had recognized you sooner. I thought that was your truck but I wasn't sure enough to stop.
Thanks, I have only had the van less than a year, I bought it used but it has really been taken care of.
Does anyone else hate DST? I don't mind it in the fall when we borrow an hour, but I hate to "pay it back" in the spring. Time is too tight for me as it is. I need as much as I can get...especially to rest. ha ha
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it was very nice to meet you yesterday (and now I have a face to put with the name/post). My hands were almost froze off but it was worth it - Female Ranger said they did really good.
it was nice meeting you. I know it was so cold! When we loaded everything in the "Ranger" truck, I went to my truck to call home and had intended to go back grocery shopping. My feet just would not carry me back up that parking lot. I came home!
I talked to her mother-in-law, which is not DCG. She was telling me that they did real well. Mom-in-law don't get into discussion boards much. She reads every once in a while, but that's about it.
At least now, we know we're both about half cracked!
I told Mom-in-law that it was nice to meet people who had more sense than I do (which don't take a lot as you can tell - I mean to have more sense than I do). You never did get to tell me if you live on a farm or just have a lot of animals. My family has a cabin that is not too far from where you live. We used to go there a lot but now that the girls are teen-agers we don't go a lot - they aren't into the "outdoor plumbing" thing.
about 20 head of cattle with 9 more little ones expected, 2 horses, 1 mule and about 20 (7 of them are babies ready to go to a good home)dogs all on about 200 acres. Oh, I forgot about the chickens. He doesn't have that many. The foxes, hawks and coyotes like them too good and hubby said he wasn't going to try to keep them anymore after these are gone.
Sometimes it's quite fun not to have the "indoor plumbing thing". There's plenty of room there around the mountain for lots of things!! I'm sure there are many couples and "others" that can attest to that. It's like NYC here on the weekends and the summer...especially plantin' and harvestin' time! Know what I mean?
somehow gotten into the cabin (even with the metal door) and that was the end of the "week-end adventures" - my oldest one refuses to use any bathroom that doesn't "flush". Other than mow I don't think we spent any time around there this summer. Oh yeah, tell Mom-in-law another person I REALLY enjoyed meeting was the Joe guy from the boat dock (I forgot exactly who she told me he was - but he was a sweetie (I guess I am old enough to get by with calling him that, right?????).
