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My Roseville connections

December 5 2004 at 8:53 PM
 
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Hello everyone. I was so happy to have met John Crowley at the Newark Library a few days ago and to find this site. I have a lot of past connections with the Roseville area in Newark. First of all, my mother was raised by her Aunt Agnes (Aggie) Carlin at #6 North 9th Street back in the early/mid 1900's. Her other aunt, Mary (Maggie) Carlin lived at #105 Rooseville Ave till she died in 1939. I can remember my father telling me that he used to wait on the corner of Roseville Ave and Orange Street back in 1940/41 for my mother to come home and when she didn't he would go and play cards with her aunts. I was born on November 29, 1941 and was Baptised in St. Rose Of Lima's. Almost all of my father's family were also Baptised in St. Rose's. They all lived over on South 13th Street back in the 1920's to 1950's. The doctor who delived me, Dr. Paul "Bucky" O'Connor had his offices on Roseville Ave back in the 30's and 40's. I think that he was also the doctor for the Newark Police Dept. He was also one of the "Four Horseman" for Notre Dame Football team.


    
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John C.

63.28.145.23

Re: My Roseville connections

December 6 2004, 8:54 AM 

Welcome, Julius. I have enjoyed reading your historical articles over at oldnewark.com, and am glad to welcome a real Newarker to the site. It was great running into you over at the NPL the other day. Don't be a stranger!

 
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209.84.70.28

Re: My Roseville connections

December 6 2004, 5:54 PM 

Actually Julius, Bucky O'Connor played for Notre Dame from 1928 to 1930. The Four Horsemen (Miller, Layden, Stuhldreher, and Crowley) played in the 1924 season and were so named by Grantland Rice after a game against Army in the Polo Grounds ( I think it was the Polo Graounds but it may have been Yankee Stadium)

 
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Frank

68.45.4.106

Bucky O'connor

December 6 2004, 6:59 PM 

Didn't he have a son, Bucky O'Connor, who played football for Saint Benedict's Prep under Joe Kasberger? It was around 1957-58. My parents were friends with the Morans of N. 5th Street and went to see their son Rich Moran play for Saint Benedicts in 1957-1958.

 
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68.193.8.168

Bucky O'Connor

December 6 2004, 9:14 PM 

Perhaps I have jumped the gun and I'll see that several others have picked up on this. The Four Horsemen were named Crowley, Layden, Stuhldreyer and Miller. Most or maybe all of them went on to becom college coaches. He had a son who became an orthopedic surgeon. He was faous at Notre Dame, because he had been on the sidelines and was inserted later in the game where because of his speed, he scored a winning touchdown.

 
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152.163.100.132

Crowley

December 6 2004, 9:55 PM 

Hello John and everyone. Thanks for the kind words. John, are you related to the Crowley that Dennis is speaking of?

 
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209.84.70.28

Bucky O'Connor

December 7 2004, 2:30 PM 

Jule - I'm not sure that we are talking about the same O'Connor. The first name of the O'Connor who starred on Knute Rockne's last national championship team was Paul. By the way that backfield was probably more talented than the Four Horsemen backfield of 1924. Quarterback Frank Carideo and running backs Marty Brill, Marchie Schwartz, Moon Mullins, and Joe Savoldi (along with the aforementioned O'Connor) all had All-American moments if not All-American mention but several had both. All they needed was a Grantland Rice to pose and immortalize them. Ah, those were the good old days. Now N D can't even find someone willing to accept two million dollars to coach them.

 
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205.188.116.132

Re: Bucky O'Connor

December 8 2004, 1:38 AM 

Hello Dennis. Good catch. I stand corrected. Dr. O'Connor's first name was Paul - not John - Dr. Paul "Bucky" O'Connor.

 
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152.163.100.132

Dr. Paul O'Connor-Newark Police Surgeon

December 10 2004, 12:23 AM 

Hello Jul. I also have read some of your writings on the Oldenewark site and the chat room that goes with it. I haven't been on there in awhile. Anyway. Dr. O'Connor wasthe Newark Police Surgeon for about 40 years. I know because I was a Newark Police Officer for 31 years and spoke with him many times. He often spoke about his football days at ND.

 
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John C.

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The Four Horsemen

December 10 2004, 8:33 AM 

The Crowley that played for Notre Dame wasn't a relative, but Aleister Crowley, who owned a little wickiup on Loch Ness, was related to us.

 
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Barbara Dedman

69.0.53.243

Re: The Four Horsemen

December 11 2004, 7:25 PM 

Whatsa "wickiup?"

 
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DL

152.163.100.132

Re: The Four Horsemen

December 11 2004, 10:21 PM 

Opposite of a 'wickidoon'.

 
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64.12.116.132

Re: The Four Horsemen

December 12 2004, 12:21 AM 

Hello Barbara. It's almost like a henway.

 
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Joe Bilby

152.163.100.132

Wickiups

December 12 2004, 7:46 AM 

A wickiup is a sort of hut made out of brush and branches used as a residence by members of certain Native American tribes, most notably the Apaches in the Southwest, and apparently some early 20th century occult eccentrics.

 
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John C.

65.146.214.167

Uncle Al's wickiup

December 12 2004, 8:21 AM 

I was being modest describing the place. It's actually a castle, now owned by Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page.

 
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Rico

68.45.43.227

Re: Uncle Al's wickiup

December 12 2004, 7:03 PM 

according to Fambulla's Eccentric Dictionary
a "wickiup" is when the wick on a candel is in an upright
position

 
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