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Norman "Jackie' Schultz

August 19 2008 at 6:55 AM
Frank 
from IP address 68.45.59.70

Does anyone remember Norman Schultz of fourth Street? I believe he was in the class of 61 or 62. He was a very quiet young man. We lived at 102 fouryjh Street and he was about five or six houses toward orange Street. I have seen him hanging around the Dunkin donuts on Main Street in Orange for years. Today I introduced myself to him. He was smoking a cigar. He seemed to remember our family name and that of the Crowley family. he told me he was 60 years old and used to go to Saint Roses. he works in a dress store on Main Street. I told him about first Fridays and he said her would try and come to say hello to John.

 
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John C.

166.214.89.79

Re: Norman "Jackie' Schultz

August 19 2008, 10:12 AM 

Ha! He may or may not want to see me. Last time he did, I was upside down, for I was holding him by his ankles off Pete Winklbauer's balcony on N. 4th Street, in lieu of an apology for messing with me. It was a cathartic moment.

 
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Jim Egan

66.92.228.210

I've Moved on from 4th Street

August 19 2008, 10:36 AM 

Dear John, This is Norman saying Hi. I want
to thank you for hanging me by my ankles. It
seems it helped me grow. I'm 6'8" now and I have
an eating disorder as you will notice on my
305 lb frame. I can't wait to see you !!
Norman "The Storming" Schultz.

 
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166.214.89.79

Re: I've Moved on from 4th Street

August 19 2008, 10:57 AM 

Good for you. Bring some donuts.

 
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Frank

68.45.59.70

Norman "Jackie' Schultz

August 19 2008, 11:35 AM 

Sad to say, Norman is painfully thin.

 
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Frank

68.45.59.70

Like

August 19 2008, 12:40 PM 

Six feet two inches tall 125 pounds. He did not look well.

 
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Anthony Lorenzo

68.39.129.253

Jackie Shultz

August 19 2008, 8:13 PM 

April 26th 1960, my brother Brians 6th B-day. I was 8 hanging on the front porch while they were blowing out candles inside. Jackie, you come by smoking a cigarette and offer me one. I took it. My dad catches me and makes me smoke and inhale his cigar. 3 years later i'm smoking a pack a day , 25 years later I quit. True story... I loved smoking . I just dont anymore !!!
122 - 4th st. Across from Bobby Bumps

 
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Frank

68.45.59.70

still smoking after all those years

August 20 2008, 3:54 PM 

It appears Norman aka Jackie Shultz is still smoking. See him outside of Dunkin donuts on Maint Street, near West orange border, in orange most mornings between 6 and 6 :30 am. He is usually smoking a cigar. i beleive he was an only child. His dad was named Norman sr.

 
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Frank

68.45.59.70

Once and for all Norman Shultz

August 24 2008, 9:41 AM 

I met Norman today and spoke with him for a few minutes. In the better light of mid morning he looked the picture of health and in great shape. He fondly remembers all of the fourth Street people and his old classmates at SRL '61 and Barringer '65. He wants to come to first Friday and thanked me for the information. he told me back in the day he went to Bodholts without fail every day. I took a nice picture with my phone camera, but do not know how to forward it to a computer. If you want it and have a camera phone, just email me and I will shoot it out to you.

 
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Frank

68.45.59.70

After all these years.

August 24 2008, 9:53 AM 

Still a great guy. I just emailed his picture to Sara McCree summa and Tony Parisi. Hope we have a big FOURTH STREET contingent there September 5th. Speaking of Fourth Street, whatever happened to the Rosser Family?

 
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166.214.28.150

Re: After all these years.

August 24 2008, 10:31 AM 

Frank, you have a strange fascination with Jackie Shultz. I hope he hasn't talked you into joining a cult or something.

 
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Frank

68.45.59.70

Neighbors stick together.

August 24 2008, 10:57 AM 

No Fourth Streeter left behind. I can text you his picture.

 
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Frank

68.45.59.70

Neighbors stick together.

August 24 2008, 10:57 AM 

No Fourth Streeter left behind. I can text you his picture.

 
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John C.

166.214.52.167

Re: Neighbors stick together.

August 24 2008, 8:34 PM 

No thanks, Frank. I prefer to remember him upside-down and hysterical.

 
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Frank

209.212.28.62

Upon review

September 4 2008, 9:20 AM 

I have not reminded Norman about First Friday. He deserves his place in our memory.

 
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Anthony Lorenzo

68.39.129.253

Jackie SHultz

August 24 2008, 8:22 PM 

You mention Tony Parisi. He was in my class as well as his mom being my teacher somewhere along the way. Wonder how he is and that brings me to Billy O'Connor. I remember high school when he got hurt then little more than that. How is he ??
T

 
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69.141.243.229

Hi Norman

September 22 2008, 10:13 AM 

I don't know if you remember me. We went to school together and graduated in 1961. Just wishing you the best. Jean Doyle

 
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Frank

68.45.59.70

Norman's picture

September 22 2008, 1:30 PM 

I took a nice picture of norman on my cell camera phone. I guess there is no way to get it on this website?

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

Invitation

January 8 2009, 11:18 AM 

I invited Norman to attend tomorrow's First Friday. I told him he could take the train from orange three stops to the South Orange Station. He never got his license. He siad "no", he was going to try and get a ride. We'll see. He does not remember the hanging off the porch day. He has a shaggy beard now.

 
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166.217.235.71

Re: Invitation

January 8 2009, 5:54 PM 

Doesn't remember, eh? I have three living witnesses. Still, I would get a bang out of seeing him and his chin spinach.

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

I believe you.

January 8 2009, 6:16 PM 

Norman is a little worse for wear. There is much he has forgotten. This site has reincarnated his legend for a new generation to enjoy.

 
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BD

24.187.156.45

Re: I believe you.

January 8 2009, 6:31 PM 

I'm thinking of buying a ^&%$^*= Dunkin Donuts franchise and putting in Norman's house! Either that or I'll buy him a house in Egan's neighborhood and we'll never see him again. BD

 
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John C.

166.217.211.61

Re: I believe you.

January 26 2009, 12:57 PM 

Hey Frank, seen Jackie lately?

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

No

January 26 2009, 2:29 PM 

I changed the place I stop in the morning to Primeras(sic?) in Essex Green. Too far a walk about a mile up a mountain for Norman to go.

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

Panera's

January 26 2009, 5:30 PM 

Panera's may be a little too high brow for Jackie. There are customers sitting at tables playing chess, working on their lap tops and reading the New York Times in the mornings. Jackie is more a salt of the Earth and is more comfortable with the fine citizens or Orange, New Jersey. Hopefully some of the class of 61 will visit him one morning and perhaps even invite him for Thanksgiving and/or Christmas.

 
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John C.

166.217.42.11

Re: Panera's

January 26 2009, 5:43 PM 

Frank, I just might visit him at that Dunkin' Donuts he frequents. Does it have a balcony?

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

Drove past at 6:20 am today.

January 27 2009, 8:56 AM 

Sure enough Dutch was sitting alone at "his"table staring out the window as thraffic passed by. I bet he'd enjoy seeing you again.

 
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John C.

166.217.215.23

Re: Drove past at 6:20 am today.

January 27 2009, 10:43 AM 

You know, one day next week I'm going to drop by and see my ol' pal. Doubtless he won't recognize me, so I'll have the element of surprise.

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

I won't spoil the surprise

January 27 2009, 11:28 AM 

Bring a camera to document. Stanley meets Livingston. he sits in the table immediately to the left of the entrance. He wears a wool cap and A full beard and resembles a homeless man. Usually there around 6:30 am.

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

10:50 am

February 7 2009, 11:11 AM 

Was sitting alone at his table by the widow. Noticed he was wearing the same dirty light blue hat with the stain on the back that he had on two weeks ago. It dawned on me he may be homeless. Maybe he hangs out at Dunkin Donuts to keep warm. Weekdays at 6am, weekends, even Thanksgiving and Chistmas. I wonder.

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

Sitting alone at 10 30 am on a Monday

February 9 2009, 11:15 AM 

Perhaps he lost his job at the dress store due to the economic turndown. He is always just sitting there. No coffee, no doughnut.

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

Mission of Mercy

February 20 2009, 12:22 PM 

Tony Parisi, we should go down there and help the Dutchman. Huddled against the window at his table 12 noon wearing the same clothes he has been in for over a month. It is nice and warm in there and no one ever botheres Jack.

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

Hey there lonely boy...

February 22 2009, 1:31 PM 

Jack has been sitting alone at "his' table at Dunkin Donuts since 6:30 this morning, 7 hours. Same clothes. Same hat beginning to tear in the back. It is time some of his old neighbors drop by the pay him a visit and buy him a cup of coffee or bowl of soup. Some used clothing would be nice. He is very tall and very slender. 34 x 32 pants? 16 long shirt? his shoes have holes in them. John? Jimbo? Robert? Tony? John? and any class of 61ers interested in joining me?

Guess he wants to come out of the rain and cold today.

 
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John C.

166.217.241.231

Re: Hey there lonely boy...

February 22 2009, 4:11 PM 

Well, for one thing we don't know what his real situation is. He may be a wealthy eccentric. He may own that Dunkin' Donuts, for all we know. A fact-finding mission is indicated.

 
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173.3.37.118

where is this location

February 22 2009, 7:28 PM 

Hey Frank, good thoughts, I will step up...please send me location and is he there on weekends or afternoons...Jimbo Crowley

 
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Bob D.

24.187.156.45

Re: where is this location

February 22 2009, 8:28 PM 

Frank, Count me in.

 
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Marty K

64.12.116.140

Re: where is this location

February 23 2009, 12:19 AM 


I'm up for that, Frank. Let me know what's up, and when.

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

He still has his pride.

February 23 2009, 7:13 AM 

I drove down to the Dunkin Donuts in Orange this morning. Jackie was sitting at his table at 6:15 am. He had a different jacket, but same pants, shirt and hat. He admitted being out of work and pointed to an article on the front page of the Star ledger about the bad economy. He does not have a phone, but would love to see people from the old neighborhood. He told me that he is there at "his" table 7 days a week 6:30 am to 10 am. He wouldn't take clothes or money to tide him over. Stated he had a part time job down the street for money

Dunkin Donuts is on Main Street.one block from the West orange line. Two blocks East of Exit 10 on route 280. the old orange towers NOT white Castle.

 
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John C.

166.217.143.29

Re: He still has his pride.

February 23 2009, 7:17 AM 

Did he mention any injury to his ankles, or a fear of heights?

 
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Barbara Curran-Guarino

24.0.55.56

Re: He still has his pride.

February 23 2009, 5:13 PM 

John, I hope all you say about Jackie Schultz is in jest, because you know if you were in that same situation, and needed help, but was too proud to ask ,I sure some of your buddies would help you out. I realize you joke around alot, but at times, maybe a little compassion about his situation is what's called for instead of taking this so lightly. If you were living on the street or just barely making it , keeping warm wherever , whether it's at a Dunkin Donuts or anywhere for that matter, I think you wouldn't keep taking potshots at him.

 
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TONY PARISI

96.240.104.229

YOU'RE RIGHT

February 23 2009, 6:37 PM 

Barbara,although it pains me to admit it I'm in total agreement with you on this one. Our lofty webmaster is showing total insensitivity on this issue. I guess old grudges die hard, shame on you Johnny. A pox on you and all your ancestors!

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

6 hours later...

February 23 2009, 4:29 PM 

Still sitting at empty table l2:15 pm. I want to respect his privacy and his dignity. But I sense something is not right.

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

6:15 PM still there

February 23 2009, 6:33 PM 

I normally do not go into the store. I use the drive-in window. I have only spoken to Norman five or six times the past six months, when I parked and went into the store. I wnet back and he was still there sitting alone at his table looking at the traffic at North Jefferson Street and Main Stree in Orange. The lady at the drive-in window told me he has been here all day, 12 hours. They let him sit there, as he has been doing it from before any of them worked there. She told me "John" never bothers anyone. I left her a ten dollar bill and told her in ten minutes give him a sandwich. large coffee and two donuts and tell him it was from a friend. It is cold and windy out there.

 
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166.217.204.115

Re: 6:15 PM still there

February 23 2009, 7:32 PM 

For the record, despite our history, I hold no real grudge against Jackie. Obviously he is not living the high life, but by the same token he always was strange. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 
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71.224.16.176

Re: 6:15 PM still there

February 23 2009, 10:36 PM 

Dunkin Donuts sells a gift card. You can get them online, imprinted with the photo of your choice. If someone will pick up the ball, I'd kick in, and if just to read a post that finds something on his table.

 
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Frank

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This is my final post on the subject.

February 24 2009, 3:35 AM 

-30-

 
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67.83.154.182

Help

February 24 2009, 1:02 PM 

I don't know him, but if someone tells me where I can send a contribution to help him, I would be glad to do it, as I am sure other people would do.

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

Thank you.

March 19 2009, 11:04 AM 

Several anonymous readers of this forum have dropped by Dunkin Donuts to make doantions to Jack. Very easy to find, right on Main Street two lights from route 280 exit 10. Saw the Dutchman today and he asked me to apologize to everyone for missing FIRST FIRDAY. Said he had to work late. I gave him new train fare. He probably needs it to eat. He is very happy to see a new LITTLE CEASARS opening up next door to Dunkin Donuts. A new hangout. Keep up the good work and you know who you are.

I have really gotten into facebook after being invited to join by my niece and 68 year old aunt. Glad to see Mike Torluccio's son Mac, Sara McCree, Gene Hutmaker of the old Newark post office 1964 to 1980 and Joseph Grabowy have joined my freinds list. A lot of fun following friends round the world and at home. Not just for little kids.

 
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67.83.154.182

Help

March 19 2009, 1:10 PM 

As I don't live near there, if you give me your last name & address, I will buy a gift card at a dunkin donuts here and send it to you, and you could drop it off for him. Thank you,

 
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76.98.122.168

Thank you

March 19 2009, 2:33 PM 

You can e-mail me at Frankmccree@hotmail.com and I will send you my mailing address by return e-mail. From the looks of things, Jack had a rough winter.

 
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67.83.154.182

Re: Thank you

March 20 2009, 1:08 PM 

I will do that as soon as I can. Thank you, Judie

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

Several others have as well. THANKS

March 20 2009, 1:19 PM 

At Bodholt's, people care and do the right thing without fanfare or articles in the newspaper. The kid told me that he used to eat at Bodholt's everyday. A half century later and the diner is still taking care of him. Would never have been possible without John. One of these years we need to do a dinner or party to honor old JC! A catalyst for remembering the past and working together for the future.

 
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Dennis Stawarski

71.172.192.4

My 2 cents on the Jackie Schultz Mystery

March 31 2009, 7:21 PM 

I saw and talked with him about 2 years ago in the West
Orange diner. He looked ok.

 
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John C.

32.178.115.96

Re: My 2 cents on the Jackie Schultz Mystery

March 31 2009, 10:00 PM 

I dropped into his hangout this morning and we had a cup of coffee. He has seen better days. He assured me he has no memory of our balcony skirmish, but I'd try to forget that too. Says he's been living in the same apartment on Park Avenue for many years.

He mentioned Frank visits from time to time and that he hopes to attend a FF. We'll see.

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

You are a good man JC.

April 5 2009, 7:40 PM 

surprised he remembered me. I got so fat since the Fourth Street Days. Have dropped 18 pounds in five weeks, but have a long long way to look at trim as JC abd AP and JS.

 
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Frank

76.98.122.168

You made his day, John

April 7 2009, 6:42 PM 

When I picked up a cup of coffee from the drive-in window at 3:30 today, the Dutchman came hobbling out to my car. He was very excited and told me that you had come to see him. Apparently that has not happened too often in recent years. He said he gad been looking for me last Thursday and Friday to give him a ride to First Friday. I told him that I was out of town. Next month, Jack. John, you made his week. Thank you.

 
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John C.

166.203.94.131

Re: You made his day, John

April 7 2009, 7:41 PM 

You are welcome, Frank, and thanks to you for befriending the guy.

 
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