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March 17 2009 at 4:31 PM
Frank 
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I was in the new Barnes @ Noble Bookstore in Livingston Mall today and saw signs advertising BRAD R. TUTTLE would be there this friday at 7 pm to hold discussions and answer questions on his new book HOW NEWARK BECAME NEWARK. I thought of John right away and his historical research and knowledge of our fair city.

I picked up a copy of the book $23.00 with discount card. When I finish I will give to John for the diner library.

"For the first time in forty years , the story of one of America's most maligned cities is told in all its grit and glory."

The day will come when John's history of Roseville will hit the bookshelves.

I will get back to you with a report(s), as I read.

 
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Frank

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Re: For JC @ the other Newark Historians

March 18 2009, 4:53 AM 

"Not since John Cunningham's NEWARK has any other author contributed to our understanding of Newark's importance to american urban history". - Clement Alexander Price Professor of history, Rutgers University, Newark.


 
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166.217.178.117

Re: For JC @ the other Newark Historians

March 18 2009, 7:27 AM 

Thanks, Frank. I'll check that book out. Sounds interesting.

 
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Frank

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Very Interesting....

March 18 2009, 10:01 AM 

Contents

Prologue. Pride in Newark: a 300th anniversary and a City on the Brink

Part 1

Rise

1. Corporation: Sheltered Puritan Village to Teeming Industrial Hub

2. Politics to the dogs: Southern Sympathy during the Civil War.

3. Greater Newark: A Metropolis Blooms with the Dawn of the Twentieth
Century

Part 11

Fall

4. Dead Weight: Prohibition, Politics, and the Growth of Organized Crime

5. The Slums of Ten Years from Now: A city Transformed through Postwar Urban Renewal

6. Bound to Explode: Generations of Frustration Boil Over in the summer of 1967

7. The Worst American City: A Transfer of Power and the dire 1970s

Part 111

Rebirth

8. Sharpe Change: A New Mayor Charts the Meandering Road to Recovery

9. A Renaissance For the Rest of Us: Cory Booker Confronts the Power Structure.

10. Stand UP, A new Administration: a new Areana and some Age-Old Struggles

According to the author:

Best area for research google "THE NEWARK EXPERIENCE'

THE HISTORY OF NEWARK Josepeh Atkinson 1878

A HISTORY OF THE CITY OF NEWARK Frank Urquhart 1913 3 volumes

NEWARK John Cunningham 1966

NJ Information Center 3rd floor Newark Library

Rutgers-Newark Dana Library

New Jersey Historical Society


 
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Frank

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Brad Pitt

March 18 2009, 2:49 PM 

Brad Pitt was spotted on Halsey Street yesterday after a visit with Cory Booker at City Hall.
The Newark Bears marketing campaign calls them the "New Newark Bears" and boasts Yankee connection with new manager Tim ROCK Raines and pitching coach Mike Torres. We will pick a game to go to this year and just meet before the game and request tickets in the same section. Too many problems with the weather last year and many people have trouble making plans far in advance. Home opener is May 1, BUT that falls on First Friday. Another night.

This book is very good, but I was disappointed to see no mention of Roseville, the city subway, the four chaplains, Moe Berg, St. Rose of Lima, or Bodholts. I hope someone picks it up so we can discuss. Well, it is up to John to write the Roseville Story. Hopefully all the posts on this web may furnish some additional ancedotes besides your research.

This book is available to order from the Barnes and Noble website.

 
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Frank

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Google book search

March 20 2009, 10:20 AM 

I did not realize that the book is availalble "on-line". As Randy Jackson says" Check it out".

 
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Frank

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Reading books on-line

March 20 2009, 11:10 AM 

After you read the book on Newark, check out "Banned in the Bronx" by Gene Hutmaker. Gene is a Yankee- hater. He wrote a book about his suffering down through the years. I first met Gene on the night before the presidential election back in 1964 when Joe Sica, Chicky DiNardo and myself started work as substitute clerks on the 6 pm to 2:30 am shift at the downtown Newark Post office. There are many references to Newark and the Newark Post Office. Frank and Bobby Molinaro, Joe Sica,Rick Cerone and his dad are just a few. A very good read and on google book search, it is free. I think Bernie knows Gene.

 
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Re: Reading books on-line

March 20 2009, 12:11 PM 

"The Slums of Ten Years from Now: A city Transformed through Postwar Urban Renewal"

And what a wonderful place its become! In order for my sister to visit our Grandfather's grave, she had to make an appointment. It seems that in order to visit a grave, you must go on a certain day and be escorted by men with guns to protect you. Lets hear it for urban renewal!

 
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205.188.116.140

Newark Cemetaries

March 20 2009, 12:30 PM 

Craig...

Read this article:

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/07/15/nyregion/retired-police-chief-is-killed-in-a-cemetery-holdup.html

It's because of this event that the state legislature FINALLY made it a law for retired cops to carry guns.


    
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Newark Cemetaries

March 20 2009, 12:30 PM 

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Jim Egan

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Not all of them - unfortunately

March 20 2009, 12:43 PM 

I think its up to the towns or cities.
I know a lot of retired guys here in this area,
some of whom would volunteer to patrol even, but
they can't carry.

 
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Dan L.

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Re: Not all of them - unfortunately

March 20 2009, 1:00 PM 

Only those who retired in good standing since 1995(?), I think that was the year. I'm talking about NJ.

You do not HAVE to carry but if you don't apply, you can't legally.

Without going into too much detail....If you apply, it has to be approved by your department's chief; you must qualify twice per year and carry according to the rules as if you were still an active officer.

 
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Re: Newark Cemetaries

March 20 2009, 12:53 PM 

Thanks Dan! John would never allow what I would "like" to say, and rightly so.

 
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Frank

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Read the book.

March 20 2009, 1:08 PM 

You can read it on-line for free. So much in there about the Gibson-Sharpe days. I would be interested in hearing the thoughts of our policemen friends on the forum. A lot written about the job. I wish I could get up to Livingston Mall tonight to discuss the book with the author. The Newark book, that is, not the Yankee-hater book.

 
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Frank

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here we go.....

March 20 2009, 1:13 PM 



    
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Barbara Curran-Guarino

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Re: Reading books on-line

March 20 2009, 3:14 PM 

We also had to make an appointment to visit my brother Kevin's grave at St. Mary's cemetery in the Ampere section. The only escorts we had though, were the foreman and 2 gravediggers. I don't think any of them had a gun , unless of course it was concealed. Apparently on that particular Sat. there was going to be a funeral and there would be someone to open the gates. Only one way in, and one way out. We were rushed after about 10 mins. of getting there because, had we not left when we did, we would have had to stay for the funeral, because our car would have been blocked in. Not for nothing, but that cemetery still gives me the creeps!!

 
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Bob Davis, Jr.

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Re: Reading books on-line

March 20 2009, 6:21 PM 

Barb, The next time you want to go just give a little notice and I'm sure we can get enough people with arms to escort you. That goes for any Bodholt's people looking to visit gravesites in bad areas. It's a shame the cities that have Cemetery's don't provide protection. Not to mention the Catholic Church which takes the money, fills the Cemetery and then abandons it when its full. BD

 
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205.188.116.140

Re: Reading books on-line

March 20 2009, 8:39 PM 

If you haven't been to a particular cemetary in some time and cannot recall the exact site you intend on visiting, you would generally stop at the office and ask for assistance...if you are asked what your relationship is to the deceased always answer "a friend"...or your arm might get twisted to pay for many years of up-keep of your relative.

 
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Frank

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Marty

March 21 2009, 6:48 AM 

Let me know were the chapters about the NEWARK Police accurate. Thought of you yesterday. We went to Kearny to see my nephew play a baseball game. Afterwards we had dinner at ARgyle Fish and Chips and we walked past Grahams. I have not been in Grahams in about 28 years. Last time dropped off Donnie Plaugic in the wee hours of the morning.

Sounds like you officers did an incredible job against all odds. Has anyone ever written a history of the Newark PD? You may be the man to do it.

 
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Barbara Curran-Guarino

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Re: Marty

March 21 2009, 6:54 PM 

Thanks Bobby for the offer. Should have known that all one has to do is ask on this site, and someone would help. Seriously though, we haven't been to that cemetery in years, due to the location, and warnings from my oldest brother not to even try to go there, but Terry was persistent and found out from my Aunt that Holy Seplicar(sp?) had taken over St. Marys maintenance so he called there and that's when we found out about calling ahead and "someone" would meet us there. Not sure when we'll make it up there again. I usually take her to Gate of Heaven where my dad is,done that dozens of times,and always made the comment, that someday, we'll get to St. Mary's. My mom wanted to go there "one last time", so, her wish was granted, but I do hope we'll be able to bring her up there again. Once again, it's great to have friends who are willing to help others on this site. Thanks.

 
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24.187.135.117

Newark book

March 21 2009, 9:03 PM 

First thing I did was go to the index and check Roseville -- as noted, there was nothing. It is a good overall history of Newark, I think. I only read the chapter about how they knocked down the old first ward tenements and put up those horrible projects, and local officials were proud of that! I knew that story from another, local history of the first ward, and it is accurately told.

So John we still have an opening -- the Roseville story still to be told.

Joe

 
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Frank

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Thank you, Joe

March 21 2009, 11:27 PM 

I was
not able to get to the book signing q and a at Barnes and Noble last night. But I found the book very interesting. Looking forward to the first great book on Roseville.

 
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Jim Egan

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Author, Author

March 23 2009, 8:54 AM 

Let's see. Here in my hands I'm holding
"Remember Fontenoy" - "The 69th New York
and The Irish Brigade in the Civil War."
written and autographed by Joseph G Bilby,
Himself. I'm up to chapter 3 as of last night.
I would be finished but there are great numbers
of pictures , illustrations and maps. I'm taking
my time and I'm really enjoying this book. I picked
it up at the Armory on St. Patrick's day after the
parade. Good thing too, since I really didn't want
to walk on Wednesday, it was nice to have this book
to start reading.

Joe? Get started on a Roseville book.

 
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butch dilella

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Re: Author, Author

March 23 2009, 12:26 PM 

i have 3 books about newark my favorite is newark's little italy the story of the old first ward the pictures of the old ward are great a lot of the old timers i remember and the story of stlucy's n how fathers granato and nativo saved the place after the riots thank god for guys like them and the late capt rocco farrente of the newark pd

 
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Author, Author

March 23 2009, 6:00 PM 

Jim, I'm glad you like that book. I certainly enjoyed writing it, including the trip to Ireland to research in the Irish National Archives. Latest to come out will be "Asbury Park: A Brief History," that I co-authored with Harry Ziegler, my brother in law. It should be out in May.

Butch, that Little Italy book is a great one. Trashing the old First Ward was one of the worst things Newark policitians ever did, and that covers a lot of territory!

Joe

 
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butch dilella

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Re: Author, Author

March 24 2009, 12:14 PM 

joe the worst day of my young life was may 8 1955 when i had to leave my home on 8th ave n high st but i got to like the new friends i made on the corner of 4th n sussex

 
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Jim Egan

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Which Team?

March 24 2009, 12:41 PM 

Butch, Which softball team were you on from 4th and Sussex?
The good one or the Scrubs??

 
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JFC

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Re: Which Team?

March 24 2009, 12:54 PM 

Butch, did you know any of the O'Krogly boys who lived on 4th and Sussex?

 
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butch dilella

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Re: Which Team?

March 25 2009, 8:53 AM 

i went to stlucy's with a larry o'krogly dont know if he moved to 4 st after they tore down the houses down the ward

 
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Frank

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Susuex Avenue Softball league

March 24 2009, 2:14 PM 

1959-1964, then portable classrooms were deposited in the outfield ending the league.

Fourth Street Yankees led by Ronny Z were legendary. One year outsiders from 4th Avenue won the regular season, but 4th Street picked up Benny Abruzzo for the playoffs and won it all. I believe 1962

Tenns Courts were always good. So much talent

Iron City. The Mooney brothers from Littleton Avenue with Frank Pitt and Ciampi won in 63.

Third Street. Mike Torluccio,Tony Hammed, Ray Iannuzzi, were in the lead in 64 before the classrooms went up. fun times.

Who can ever forget the motorcade around 3rd and 4th Street when the 4th Strret Scrubs won.

Hit it over the centerfield roof. Tony Hammed. Most feared hitter to hit one over right field fence Ronnie Z and Joe Grabowy.

 
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butch dilella

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Re: Which Team?

March 25 2009, 8:49 AM 

i didnt play softball for any team i was too busy marching drum corp any one who marched in the fifftys was tied up 3 nights a week n all summer for shows ask bdj how much timw he spent as lucy's dm

 
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Frank

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No softball before 1959

March 25 2009, 10:16 AM 

The houses were not knocked down to create the playground until 1958 and the playground opened up in the spring of 1959. Directors that come to mind are: Mr. Boots, Charles and Harry, Frank Verducci, Charlie Meadows, Steve Adubato, Mr. Mal, Miss Ciriaco,Mrs. McGuckin, Mr. Hardy, and Mr.Adams. Great memories.

Some years there were as many as ten to twelve teams playing in the softball league. Unique rules. Over the left field fence into the patio: YOU'RE OUT! Foul ball over the right field fence ; THREE OUTS, inning over!. The neighbor down the right field line used to keep the softballs. Joe Grabowy had the best opposite field power in the league.

 
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