Okay John, the suspense is such that I can no longer resist asking this question: Where is this? My guess is Market St looking in a westerly direction from Broad. All those horses sure must've stunk up the place with their droppings. Prob'ly not as bad as now, though.

Marty, I agree it's Market Street, probably looking west, as you reckon. Photo taken around 1910.

My guess is that it is Market Street but we are looking East.It appears that the trolleys are going West with destinations SO.ORANGE AVE.,CENTRAL and Springfield.

John, Marty, and Bernie, I can understand why the So. Orange and Springfield Ave cars would be on Market St. but how did the Central cars get from Market St to Central Ave.?

Doris, at the time this photo was taken the 23 Central started at old Penn Station, came up Market to Washington and over to Central, ending near the E. Orange - Orange line. The diagram below is from The Newark City Subway Lines by J. H. Riley.



In 1916, with the completion of the Public Service Building, it started from the Cedar Street Subway and was extended to Scotland Road. Diagram below from same source:

Here's a photo of what looks like the last run of the 23 streetcar. In 1947 the line, which had been extended again to Jefferson Street in Orange, was converted to diesel buses, and that looks like a '47 Buick in the photo, so this may be a commemorative shot. I'd say this location is Central Avenue and Scotland Road, and that White Castle is still there!

The reason I said we're looking westward on Market St is the apparent rise in the elevation of the street in the far, faint distance of the photo. If we faced east the land would slope downward, as occurs when you look toward (the not yet built) Penn Station.

I agree, Marty. It rises and branches off into Springfield Avenue and Warren (later W. Market) Street. Good puzzler, though.

I wonder how much White Castle burgers were back then?
3 cents, 4 cents??

I was at that White Castle a few weeks ago! Nice neighborhood!;-) I remember reading that this White Castle is one of the largest volume stores in the company!!!!

Bob how often do you go there?

I know your joking about the neigborhood around the White Castle in Orange Bob. A few years back two on-duty Orange Patrolman were involved in a shootout with a holdup man at the gas station across the street. Both wewre wounded as was the holdup man. On the other hand I go there after a night of drinking at Cryans, just to take the edge off and prepair myself for the long ride home on 280. Of course I have my gun in my hand ready for any of the "neighbors" if the should come by.

Bernie, I go there whenever I'm nearby and I get the urge. As Dan said and when I lived in Livingston, I'd go there ever night after I went out drinking.
Dan, I was kidding. I remember that robbery at the gas station. If you look like you belong there the locals don't bother you but, there is always that chance, when you are in the wrong place at the wrong time, of some serious trouble.

There was a shooting in the drive through line years ago.
I never stop after leaving Libretti's or The Apian Way not
too far from there, there's no need too. Anytime we left
South Mountain Arena after playing hockey it was a must to
get a bag of double cheeseburgers for the ride Parkway South
or 80 west.

I'll tell you whats wrong with this picture...the hay that was feed to those horse's was 420 grade.

Way back in the late '50s when Ed Langan and I were bartenders at the long gone Dudley's on Tompkins Street, after the 2 a.m. closing we would usually stop there at the White Castle for a bunch of burgers and a lot of joke telling. Once again, the memories are being brought back.