The key word is "KNOW"December 14 2008 at 2:25 PM
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Vince (Login MoxiFox)
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You're a former policeman, Striver and I'm guessing it would be safe to say that you've had your own experience with using "questionable" practices at times, in order to elicit information from apprehended felons. That's not a criticism; its just reality. I don't think anyone can be effective at police work without getting a bit rough at times.
However, in your given example, you assume an absolute -that you KNOW the prisoner knows. If this were true then it's no longer a question of human rights because the guy is willing to make others suffer ...... and therefore he himself must be willing to feel the same pain.
I was reading a little autobiographical material the other night from a fellow who participated in the war -WW2- in British intelligence....
He said that they would put a gun behind the ear of a captured spy and tell him to talk to his contacts back on the European coast, feeding them incorrect information. V1 rockets were coming across the channel aimed for London and the crew back at the launching station needed to know where the things were coming down so they could adjust the timers on the fuel lines accordingly. By feeding incorrect info, the Brits managed to get the majority of these "missiles" to land short or overshoot their target.
So ...... gun behind the ear. ONE "mistake" and the guy was gonzo.
Was this torture? Was it "fair"? I would say maybe to the first and yes to the second.
However, using common sense without quibbling the fine stuff .....
Apprehending 500 strangers and then subjecting them to psychological and physical pain for months on end ........ in the hopes of wringing out SOME kind of information ......
Is just plain dumb and and immature thinking. Its no better thought out than praying and throwing a pizza at the wall to observe the pattern and then expect a sign from God in the smatterings to reveal the truth.