I did finally read all you both said here. And you do need to read what I did write below about this issue too. With scripture, of course, which I always give to prove what I am saying.
As we were not talking about what happens when one does when they do repent, receive God into their life at all, that begin their salvation. W
We was talking about the baptism in the Holy Ghost guys.
No wonder everyone says to me are you saying I am not saved.
Well Jay, while you attended a oneness church, I never did attend one. So I don't give a fig what they say about when salvation begins and why at all. Lots of things they say I disagree with. Just like lots of things youse guys say I disagree with too.
Thank God for my husband telling me to study, seeking the Lord for truth myself, not listening to what other men tell me is true always. As any one of us can be wrong. but read what I wrote just a bit ago, and tell me I am wrong there, proving it in scipture that what I said isn't true.
and next time you run across someone that speaks in tongues, show them the same thing, too, encouraging them to seek the baptism. But just to know when they received that same breath of life, that was the beginning of their salvation also as long as they continued on following Christ.
It is terrible what some of the lies do to others. But especially this one by someone believing they could have had something after all. But didn't because of thinking they already did have it to begin with. Which is what you both are telling other are you not? Sure you are.
I revealed this to a lady years ago after the Lord revealed that scirpture to me. Because she was convinced that she also had the baptism too, because of knowing she had the Spirit. She seeing it, then received, because of seeing she was saved, but she did not yet have the baptism in the Spirit she thought she did.
What a shame some of the things that people believe do to them that never find out because they do not study these issues out, seeking God about them. When God is no respector of persons. If He will talk to me, revealing things to me, He will do the same for anyone else too. You just have to get with HIM opening the door for Him to do so. Then learn to know HIS voice of course. As it is not the same as my hearing a preacher speak. I think that Elijah found that out to be true while in that cave, didn't he?
Anyway, gotta go for now. Maybe will check back and find out what else the two of you came up with again sometimes.
I really do love you both by the way. If I didn't, I wouldn't be here at all.
If you do not begin right in the Lord, neither will you be able to continue on ending right either.
Pr. 10:11-12 "The mouth of a righteous man is a well of life, but violence covereth the mouth of the wicked. Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.