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April 16 2009 at 7:30 AM
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LOUIS sHAMMAH  (no login)

 
What did Jesus mean when He said, "I and my Father are one.?
What did He mean when he said to Thomas, "Thomas, have I been so long with you that thous has not known me? When you've seen me you've seen the Father?" And, "for unto us a child is born, a son is given. The government shall rest upon His sholders. His name shall be called Wonderful, Councellour, The Mighty God, the everlasting Father, the prince of peace, etc." And of HIs govenrment there shall be no end. And,He thought in not robbery to be equal with God.

 
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lox
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I was corrected yrs. back

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April 16 2009, 7:59 AM 

I saw this when the spirit of the Lord revealed: its is not man making himself God but God making Man in us via Christ and thus: Emmanuel- God with us! No Christ No Jesus! Jesus is the only Man God knows! Jesus Christ via Christ Jesus!

 
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Louis Shammah
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You didn't get corrected, Lox

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April 16 2009, 9:37 AM 

by any of these turkeys thinking. The only thing you get from thisw bunch is more of the same old gobble de goop. And then, when they discover you know what opinion they have of your thinking they split like a bunch of quail.
Oh, they lead you own as long as they think you are listening to them toot their own horns, but when you give'em enough rope and you let them hang themselves and they see themselves as they really are, you're every name in the book, and then some. Louis

 
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Jesus Christ is how God lives within the Soul and this is called "MAN"

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April 16 2009, 8:39 AM 

before we become MAN, the image and likeness of God by becoming the "body" of Jesus Christ and his bride (as far as our will is concerned), we are "beasts" to God or animal souls:

In Hebrew a nephesh soul is the animal soul and this is why it is written Jesus was born in a manger and was put in a trough, "beast food": It is also written, that if we don't eat the flesh and drink the blood (spiritually please) of the "Son of Man' we can have no part with him:

eating the WORD and drinking the holy spirit is more palatable to the carnal mind, but in reality we have to INGEST the WORD and not be drunk by wine, but the holy spirit to be transformed into a NEW CREATION (mind) that is joined to CHRIST (ONE SPIRIT) and is baptized into the NAME of JESUS (salvation of Jehovah), to become the MAN God purposed from the beginning when he SENT HIS WORD, and it will not return void to him: it will accomplish what God intended, "willed" for it to accomplish:

 
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scripture to show we are beasts (animal souls) to God before he makes us MAN in Jesus

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April 16 2009, 8:50 AM 

This is Asaph having the spiritual experience of being taken to Gods house, his temple, which begins as the "desolation of abomination": This is why Jesus said that Israel's house would be left DESOLATE to them till they say "blessed is he who comes in the NAME of the LORD" and that is JESUS:

It is also why Mathew calls the "holy place" the inner court, the place where antichrist is revealed:


Now for this Psalm of Asaph having his revelation of both the carnal mind against the holy spirit that was transforming him:

Psa 73:1 [[A Psalm of Asaph. (gatherer, another name for Joseph]] Truly God [is] good to Israel, [even] to such as are of ((a clean heart))).


Psa 73:2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.


Psa 73:3 For I was envious at the foolish, [when] I saw the prosperity of the wicked.


Psa 73:4 For [there are] no bands in their death: but their strength [is] firm.


Psa 73:5 They [are] not in trouble [as other] men; neither are they plagued like [other] men.


Psa 73:6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them [as] a garment.


Psa 73:7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.


Psa 73:8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly [concerning] oppression: they speak loftily.


Psa 73:9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.


Psa 73:10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full [cup] are wrung out to them.


Psa 73:11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?


Psa 73:12 Behold, these [are] the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase [in] riches.


Psa 73:13 Verily I have cleansed my heart [in] vain, and washed my hands in innocency.


Psa 73:14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.


Psa 73:15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend [against] the generation of thy children.


Psa 73:16 When I thought to know this, it [was] too painful for me;


Psa 73:17 ((((Until I went into the sanctuary of God)))))); [then] understood I their end.


ME: this is why I always give the witness that SEEING Jesus or having the witness/testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy, and it is written, in the last days it would be poured out on all flesh: Here it is poured out on Asaph and he is able to COMPARE the evil side to the GOOD side: DISCERN THE SPIRITS and see what manner both sides are made of:



Psa 73:18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.


Psa 73:19 How are they [brought] into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.


Psa 73:20 As a dream when [one] awaketh; [so], O Lord, when thou awakest, (((thou shalt despise their image))))).


Psa 73:21 Thus my heart was grieved, and I was pricked in my reins.


Psa 73:22 So foolish [was] I, and ignorant: ((((I was [as] a beast before thee))))).


ME: thank God the END of a thing is better than the beginning: God fixes us in CHRIST JESUS and makes the whole soul new by making it a true Man, the Man in Gods image and not the image of the earthly which is a beast.

Psa 73:23 Nevertheless I [am] continually with thee: thou hast holden [me] by my right hand.

ME: we become his left hand, and he becomes our RIGHT Hand, which is why the wife should submit to the husband even as the left hand is a helper to the right:

Psa 73:24 Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me [to] glory.


Psa 73:25 Whom have I in heaven [but thee]? and [there is] none upon earth [that] I desire beside thee.


Psa 73:26 My flesh and my heart faileth: [but] God [is] the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever.


Psa 73:27 For, lo, they that are far from thee shall perish: thou hast destroyed all them that go a whoring from thee.


Psa 73:28 But [it is] good for me to draw near to God: I have put my trust in the Lord GOD, that I may declare all thy works.


 
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Louis

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April 16 2009, 10:51 AM 

I answered that in a previous post. Father-Mother (Spirit-Matter) create embryonic mind which evolves in quality equal to that of the Father. Gradually, We come to know the Purpose of the planet. Bear in mind we are that part of the planet that got up and walked. It doesn't matter if we believe god created us for dirt, or that the Creator Aspect of the three-fold Trinity created us via the evolutionary process, the fact is, we are that part of the planet that got up and walked. We are the planet. but I'm about to get off on another topic.

Father and Purpose are synonymous. The acorn for example, at some point in its growth, becomes aware of the fact that it is to become an OAK and can say, I and the Father, in this case an Oak, are one. Then comes that day when the acorn has become the Oak. It is called, as I posted in my previous reply, At-one-ment. See John 14:20.

There is no Vicarious Atonement. Atonement is a corruption of the original At-one-ment. Google the word seed and you'll see it creates a replica of itself which matures into at-one-ment with its creator. I did an article for an Aquarian publication based upon this very subject.

Thomas is the symbol for doubt. At my present point in development, I do not know why this planet was created...its Purpose. Until I do, I can only speculate as to what this purpose is. I am constantly in touch with the Thomas, the doubt, in me because, while I'm aware there is a purpose, I (as yet) cannotnbe sure what this purpose is.

But as I grow, becoming increasingly this purpose, I will not "visit" Thomas often at all. Finally my Thomas will disappear because I and My Father have become one in Purpose. I know my father's will (purpose) and I do it. I have undergone my New Testament period during which all the fanciful notions I had, none of which had anything at all to do with Purpose...about what I thought I wanted to be have died daily (l Corinthians 15:21)

Ageless Wisdom teaching tell us that once the above has happened and our lower desires have been transfigured and our channel has been cleared of all interference, all the static, all the foolishness, the Purpose of our planet becomes evident and our encounters with doubt (Thomas) are fewer and fewer. Then comes that momentous time in my mind's evolution where I make my crucifixion initiation. My human nature, which included the Thomas in me, the cross upon which my Christ mind has been crucified, has died its final death.
At this point we are completely unlike the magnet of human desire and are enough like the magnet of Purpose that we are drawn ever closer into at-one-ment with it.


 
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Where are you now Louis? Don't change the question, deal with it.

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April 17 2009, 3:57 AM 


 
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