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The Epicure's Lament (Fiction)

March 20 2004 at 2:26 PM
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The Epicure's Lament
by Kate Christensen
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From the author of "In the Drink," a compelling novel about a man smoking himself to death. A literary tour de force of bitter humor and gorgeously articulated misanthropy to rival the works of Martin Amis and John Lanchester.


 
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Doris
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Must get this book --

March 21 2004, 9:18 PM 

As usual, could not wait for Monday's read so have searched and found reviews and excerpt from this book - even had to call my brother to tell he must check into - think he would enjoy --
My library does not have so may have to purchase this one - can hardly wait to get it --
Waiting to hear everyone else's reaction and response to this one --

 
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Anonymous
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"And Loving It"

March 22 2004, 2:14 AM 

Hugo Whittier is my kind of character-much more real than the prudent "Dudly Dorights" that are such a staple in most modern literature.

 
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Monica
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Love it

March 22 2004, 7:23 AM 

This is very good. This author is extremely talented. Not a single physical description, yet the characters are completely fleshed out. I can't wait to read more.

 
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Re: The Epicure's Lament (Fiction)

March 22 2004, 9:06 AM 

I have heard so much about this book, and I was delighted to see it in my e-mail this morning. What a great start, to a book that by most accounts looks like a must read.

I agree that the characters are already shaping up and come on, let's admit it- who doesn't read fiction for the love of a great villian?

 
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Compelling

March 22 2004, 10:29 AM 

I was prepared to dislike this book, the jacket blurb made it sound like such a depressing read. BUT.....this first installment has me truly intrigued. The characters already introduced are indeed dislikable, but the writing is so tight that I can hardly wait for the plot to unfold. I'm next on the list for our library's one and only copy. And I still have to catch up on last week's selection...so many good books,so little time.....and now golf season is starting!

 
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Jodie
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Enjoying

March 22 2004, 1:29 PM 

Much better than last weeks read with the crazy confused mother. Hugo, though cynical, pessimistic and lonesome is a character that I like already. He's forward and honest and very funny. He had me suppressing my laugher as I read my e-mails in my school's library. I might just go and purchase this book.

 
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Much Fun

March 22 2004, 1:52 PM 

I am greatly enjoying charactors that I can understand. Good point Monica, on how even though there have been no physical descriptions, I can totally picture Hugo and his brother and the brother's wife already. Great Choice, I will have to see if I can get this at the library!

 
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pain?

March 22 2004, 3:28 PM 

I'm one of those annoying people at the movie theater who whispers predictions to my seatmates. I'd do the same with books if I had anyone to listen. I'm intrigued by the hint of pain. The self awareness of our main character leads me to think he's not the average man. I'm going to operate on stereotypes here, so I hope I don't offend anyone. Is he gay? Does he have AIDS? Would that cause a pain in his foot? Maybe his self destructive tendencies have caught up with him. I'm intrigued.

I too have reserved a copy at my local library. Why is it they never have books waiting when I want to read them? :)

 
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Doris
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Re: pain?

March 22 2004, 5:30 PM 

From what I read he has Beurger's disease (associated with smoking -according to the book) and also in the info I found while researching the disease -- but other factors are involved tho' stopping smoking can definitely be beneficial -- to the point of living and not dying -- along with other treatment I believe --

 
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Interesting

March 22 2004, 9:50 PM 

Wow. I have to admit I'm really getting into this week's read! It's been a while since I got really jazzed about the fiction reads (mostly because of my own tastes) but this one has hooked me. I can't wait for tomorrow's section. :-)

 
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sandy
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Don't like it.

March 23 2004, 10:33 AM 

I might be the only one in the world, but it's just not my taste. (No pun intended)

'Oscar The Grouch' grows up...I'll pass on this one.

 
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...don't like it

March 23 2004, 1:04 PM 

This is one of those interesting situations where you don't like the characters, but can't wait to learn why they are the way they are and if there is going to be any positive resolution to their predicament. The writing/dialogue is so precise that I'm loving the read even though the two brothers are so flawed. And although we haven't even met her, I'm finding the sister-in-law somewhat unlikeable as well. What a writing talent. Bring on the next installment!

 
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Doris
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Re: ...don't like it

March 23 2004, 7:04 PM 

I'm with you Ann - the writing just knocks me out -- and do hope for a "happy ending" as opposed to the dire outcome that seems to be foretold at the beginning --

 
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Doris
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Re: ...don't like it

March 23 2004, 7:18 PM 

me again - what do you mean "don't like the characters" or in this case the main character -- I personally love him -- how can you resist such an eccentric carmudgeon -- ?

 
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...don't like

March 24 2004, 11:18 AM 

You're right, Doris. "Don't like" isn't the right expression. Hugo is the train wreck we all have to look at. He's hopelessly flawed...no redeeming social benefits that I can see yet. But I can hardly wait for the next installment.! I'm reading with dictionary at hand. I love words, their arrangement and construction. Don't know if I can wait for the library copy of this one or head out to the local B & N to buy one.

 
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sounds good...

March 23 2004, 4:01 PM 

But, what was with the "sexy kindergardner" remark? That was a bit odd and unsettling to read. All in all though, it sounds very good and seems well written.

 
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Doris
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Re: sounds good...

March 24 2004, 2:24 PM 

I personally think the kindergarten remark was nothing other than a description comparing her with her bony - was it second grade sister -? -
don't feel anything sinister in its meaning -- just his usual way of thinking and writing --

 
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impress with author

March 23 2004, 6:49 PM 

I like the author's writing style. Her male character Hugo's voice is convincing and this is not easy to do.
The mood is too depressing for my taste however.

 
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Great Characterization

March 24 2004, 8:41 AM 

Like others have said here, I'm very impressed with the characterization of Hugo in particular. I like how he's being put into a perfect situation for growth - forced to endure all the things he doesn't like . . . namely, family, responsibility, illness, facing up to his demons.

I was feeling the usual Monday blahs . . . but finding this delightful story in my "in box" was a refreshing lift. I'm enjoying it more each day. Have already requested this one from my library. It's in hardback, otherwise I'd run out and buy it if it was in paperback.

 
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Tonya
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Lamentable

March 24 2004, 9:06 AM 

Although this sort of book is rarely in my realm of tastes, I'm actually enjoying it. Sure it's depressing, and yes, the main character is a major grump with a chip on his shoulder, but like many of you, I'm anxious to see if there is a transformation...

Michelle - I too was baffled by the "sexy kindergartner" comment...

 
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Cathy
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Empty life

March 25 2004, 8:14 AM 

Hugo is a very sad person because he seems to have no values or spiritual meaning in his life. He is so upset about his brother being with him, has no compassion at all for him. Dennis is going through a difficult time in his life, but Hugo doesn't seem to care, only resents Dennis' intrusion in his domain.

The "sexy kindergartner" remark kind of says it all to me. Hugo sees people as objects, what they can do for him. Not that he would actually act on the impulse to abuse a 5 year old, but yet that kind of thinking seems what his life is made of.

I don't think I like this book - empty lives are too depressing. Maybe Hugo becomes more whole as the book continues.

 
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"sexy" kindergartner

March 25 2004, 10:32 AM 

I agree with Doris...even though this guy seems to have sex on the brain, he is just using it as a descriptor. You could easily replace "sexy" with "vivacious". That is the way I see it.

I also am very surprised that I am liking this week's reading, not my usual fare.

Take care all, Natalka.

 
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Re: The Epicure's Lament (Fiction)

March 25 2004, 12:43 PM 

It's interesting to read other reader's responses. When I first started reading this book, I became more irritated than Hugo appeared to be. His behavior was driving me crazy--actually making me angry. His nastiness reminded me of someone in my past. In a way, they were Hugo--the spitin' image. I'd stop reading, put the book down in disgust, but then I'd pick it up again. Maybe I kept reading, hoping to find out"why"?

 
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One in every family

March 25 2004, 6:18 PM 

It seems that every family has its Hugo. Ours does and she's more than irritating. We gave up long ago on any hope of civility from her. But, I'm not giving up on Hugo just yet. The writing is just too wonderful. Don't you think we all secretly love characters like Hugo because he makes our own foibles and shortcomings seem so trivial?

 
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Vith
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Thank you Suzanne

March 26 2004, 8:07 PM 

I'm relieved to see Suzanne joining us in the fiction forum. I was beginning to doubt if you're actually reading along with us Suzanne. Thanks.

I too was baffled why the author would have Hugo describe a child as "sexy kindergartner." Could it be a revelation of a dark secret, an infatuation for children?

 
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Me Too Vith

March 27 2004, 1:25 AM 

Me too Vith, I'm glad to see Suzanne reading this one along with us!! I am so intrigued by this Hugo character even though I don't like his attitude, he is interesting and I love his use of words. Because they have not given a physical description of him, I hope I don't spoil it (or maybe I'll make it better) for some of you when I tell you that I am imaging him looking and acting like Johhny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean !!! How do you like that !!!

Love the book and will have to get it !!

 
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Margaret J. Buford
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Excellent character

March 25 2004, 3:14 PM 

You must love this character. He's such a cad. Is he Salinger's Holden Caulfield all grown up? I would have to do the math to figure out his age, but I think it's him. ha

 
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Barb
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Lament

March 25 2004, 4:29 PM 

Each day I have read the excerpts and each day I would ask myself what am I missing? Could not figure out what all the raves were about. Glad to know I am not alone. Hugo makes me feel uncomfortable and creepy. I don't find him at all funny or amusing.

The author is very talented but the story gives me an upset stomach.

 
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Tonya
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Can't End There!!

March 26 2004, 9:07 AM 

DOH! I really wanted to meet this sister-in-law! I forsee quite the scene between Hugo, Marie, Dennis and the children, oh yes, and the "girl"...

Hugo, Hugo...he's the character you love to hate but hate to love. He seems such a cold-hearted, cruel man yet there's something about him or within him that seems captivating. I'm adding this one to my list. The list is getting WAY too big. Thanks Suzanne!!

 
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Jonas
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So-so

March 26 2004, 10:29 AM 

The two excerpts that I receive were good. But I find the book like the movie "Igby Goes Down" so I wasn't impressed with the themes (anger against the mother, blueblood background, the wandering lifestyle, careless attitude, and the sibling rivalry).


 
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re: so-so

March 26 2004, 4:06 PM 

Very good point with the "igby goes down" comparison. That was right on the money for me, I like the book, and the charactors but I don't think I will read the rest of the book, too dreary.

 
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