John Dungworth (Login G-George) from IP address 220.127.116.11
Hello All,does anyone have any info on who was responsible for the pidgeons that were taken aboard the Bombers?.What type of case were they carried in? and are the cases still available to get hold of?.Is there a website or any pics available please.all the best regards John.
Paul, The thought that these boxes were made out of Army biscuit tins is intriguing, and looking at the picture again with this in mind does suggest that this may be the case? I am due to visit Bletchley Park very soon to meet up with the curator of the Pigeon Display there with a view to photographing and measuring an original example they have there with a view to reconstructing such a box as original examples are very rare and almost impossible to find. I will put this question to him. Dave
There is a display at the RAF Museum of three or four airmen in a dinghy releasing a pigeon, and they have a tin in the boat with them. Its obvious that its made from some sort of tin, maybe biscuit, maybe fuel. I thought I had a photo of it but I cant find it, but I'll be there in a couple of weeks anyway so can take some more. But its open display, not behind glass, and clearly seen.
Thanks guys for all your help on this one,I would really be interested in making one of these Biscuit tin carriers myself,if you get more info from Bletchley I would be grateful if you would post it up,thanks again and best regards John.
Thanks for the picture of the biscuit tin Paul, it certainly looks like a contender for conversion into a pigeon box - add a handle and make the other minor mods - and there you have a pigeon box! It is quite feasable that this is what they used back in WW2. If anyone has any proof of this I am sure we would all love to hear about it. I will post the results of my viewing at Bletchley after my visit. Now then, has anyone got a Biscuit Tin or two they don't want? Regards Dave.
I know that this is rather later in respect to your post of 2008, but I have just come across it.
I have an original Metal Pidgeon Box complete with insert. This came into my possession in the late 1960's when my fater purchased a small Cardboard Box manufacturer in Luton, who in turn made the insert for these Boxes during th war. Also there a photos cut out of magazines and newspapers relating to the Pidgeons and there crews.
I am in the process of donating this to the Linconshire Aviation Heritage Centre, at East Kirkby Lincolnshire.
I was at the RAF Museum Sunday and took a few photos for you of the display they have there of three airmen in a dinghy just releasing a pigeon. Unfortunately the photos of the pigeon carrier are mostly too big to put on this site even after editing, but i have added this one (email me for others if you want them).
I would guess this might well be an original tin (restored), or if not, a replica made from an original or original plan.
Hi, Many thanks indeen for the photo on the forum, I would love to see the others you have but cannot seem access your email? mine is email@example.com if you would like to send the other photos you have. Thanks Dave
Hi All, I was at Bletchly Park yesterday to photograph and measure the original Pigeon Box they have there on display however, I noted the following information stamped on the side of the box; "A.M. H.539471/41/14 M.U./C.22 (8) Stores Ref. 4B/579". Can anyone identify this information? Is it referring to a "Pigeon Box" or, as we think, to a "Catering size Biscuit Tin"? As luck would have it there was one of the Biscuit Tins on display in another exhibition at Bletchly (I couldn't access it to see if it had the same Stores Number) but it certainly looked like a good candidate for making a Pigeon Box. If anyone would like some photos and measurements of the "Bletchly Pigeon Box" please email me. Regards Dave.
Hi Alex, Many thanks for the picture, nice clear detail there. By the way, I have now located one original Biscuit Tin, it is in the post to me and should arrive next week. The person sending it says he should be able find a few more so, when the tin arrives and I've had a chance to examine it, I will post the information here. Regards Dave.