The FDA is announcing that two anti-smoking drugs, Chantix and Zyban, can cause sever mental health side effects.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/07/01/fda.anti.smoking.drugs/index.html

Is it really the drug making people lose their marbles - or are smokers losing their marbles because they're not smokin?

"The FDA says that since Chantix was approved in 2006, the agency has had reports of 98 suicides and 188 attempted suicides"

Given that everyone and their mother used this, is that really a significant number?

Seems to me you enjoy being callous.

You also enjoy overposting.

Go sleepwalk in traffic.

Thank you.

Dear Caps,

I don't care if you think I over post, because I think you're a huge tool.

Someone had to tell you.

That was weak, Caps.

I don't give a shite 'cause I got my Guinness Stout!

I had a prescription for Welbutrin to stop smoking back in the day. (It's called Zyban now, I think)
It didn't make me depressed or suicidal, it made me a zombie. Not happy, not sad, not anything. It was like watching someone elses life on TV. Weird.
And I still wanted to smoke.
I guess it doesn't work for everyone.

I dunno, Amy. I was kinda surprised he didn't get a lot more flack after the way he lambasted Jo (and, pretty much, every parent who posts about their kids on this Board) on her thread.

Welbutrin made me allergic to metal. The hand I wore my watch and wedding ring on swelled up and turned red. I stopped taking it.

AFT, I chose not to lambast. I often post on here about things my children (esp. Carson) have experienced and I continue to choose to believe they don't actually ever do anything wrong.

I had a prescription for Chantix. I didn't like it. It made the cigarettes (during the first week when you can still smoke) taste bad. And then I read about nightmares and violent sleepwalking and night terrors, and decided I had enough problems all on my own.

Isn't it crazy what happens when you're on drugs?!!

In my case, what's crazy is what happens when I'm not

Chantix Worked for me.

Ginny's point is interesting. People commit suicide of Prozac:http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/05/01/04.php

And yet there's no black box warning.

I suppose it would never be possible that the tobacco industry might make sure any scary side effects were publicized as much as possible? Honestly, I hate to sound all conspiracy-theorish, but considering I was a two pack a day smoker $7 per day, for 20 years, that isn't chump change.

ETA - that there is in fact a black box warning and I'm a dope.

Don't people commit suicide on many drugs? Advil? Painkillers? Xanax? Prozac? No matter what the drug? I hardly believe a drug could make a non-suicidal person commit suicide.
Correlation? Maybe. Causation? Nope.

Uhh... I thought there WAS a black box warning about people committing suicide on anti-depressants.

You know what David? You're right!!

Damn, you post too much, you bastard!

Something I can't comprehend
Something so complex and
Couched in its equation
So dense that light cannot escape from
In the dark your brain glows
And it goes
Way um way, way um way um
I know you're a supra genius
Will you shoot the blue earth down?
In the space station
Polishing the ray gun
You say correllation is not causation

I am

Sorry, Smirk! I'll try and be less friendly and outgoing for you

Soul Coughing! I friggin' LOVE that group!

ETA: I especially love 'Ruby Vroom'. Excellent from beginning to end.

I writing a huge post about how sorry I'm not.

Saw them open for Jeff Buckley.

Also, the HR lady who first hired me at IKEA in Seattle is M. Doughty's cousin.

I am

Biff went to high school with Mr. Doughty. I follow him on Twitter as well. A good little 140 character nugget every now and then.

Chantix is the most successful external smoking cessation approach known- therapy, etc all included and is still at 14% success rate. Gives you an idea of how tough an addiction smoking really is. Chantix and Zyban are dealing with how your brain is wired but folks don't acknowledge the power of it and CONTINUE TO DRINK ALCOHOL. Yes, there are folks who have intense dreams etc but 98% of the official Chantix suicides involved alcohol. If you are taking a drug which is helping you to rewire your f'n brain, please DON'T DRINK!!

I am way too drunk to comprehend that last post.

Somebody pass me my smokes and a few tabs of zyban!

LMAO Jiggy!!!!!

Jiggy, I less than three you!



It actually doesn't totally suck

OMG! It took me like 2 hours to get that!
LOL!
I less than three you too!

It is entirely too early for Tennis jokes.

<3 <br>
You dorkus...

LMFAO! It took me two hours to not even understand the joke!
I'm an idiot!

Jebus Ginny, why don't you IM me about this stuff?!!
You know I'm clueless!

That being said, I less than three all of you too.

You aren't signed in!

Or you have me blocked!

Unblock me! I won't send any more unsolicited bewbie pics, I promise.

I BLOCKED YOU FOR A REASOIN!

Actually, My compy used to sign me in automatically whenever I turned it on. Now it doesn't.
My pictures don't download right either!
I just bought this heap of junk in 2003, why doesn't it work?!!

some anti-depressants side effects include suicidal thoughts and I believe Ritalin is another drug lists it as well.

Our cig packs have ugly pictures of diseased lungs and hearts and other smoke-related ugliness right on the packs along with clear cautions as warnings.

Not sure how many smokers look at that though.

Ewwwww! The cigarette packs in Thailand have those pictures too.

On a similar note, do you guys have Meth commercials? Those are pretty shocking.