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May 29 2012 at 8:39 AM

Odd Todd  (Premier Login oddtodd7)
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Any DFB peeps actually ever in the military?

 
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Louise
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Re: Military Peeps

May 29 2012, 8:43 AM 

I think that Arwen was. My parents, brother, and sister were, and I was a military brat, but I'm not sure that counts wink.gif

 
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AnonoPajama
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Re: Military Peeps

May 29 2012, 8:47 AM 

Hep C.

Thanks to all of you.

 
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PearlGurl
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Re: Military Peeps

May 29 2012, 9:27 AM 

Jiggy, Capslock, Ronnie and myself.
Adorabelle was Special Ops. Her mission was to charm her way behind enemy lines and knife them in the heart.

 
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Re: Military Peeps

May 29 2012, 9:39 AM 

I was for 6 years.




The opinions expressed above are the sole opinions of the author and do not reflect actual human thought. Any resemblance to intelligent opinions is purely coincidental.

 
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ED
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Re: Military Peeps

May 29 2012, 9:53 AM 

No, never.  Sorry, but I'm one of those long-haired, liberal hippie types who thinks it might actually be ethically questionable.

 
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AnonoPajama
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Re: Military Peeps

May 29 2012, 12:12 PM 

Comet was

 
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Ginny
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Re: Military Peeps

May 29 2012, 12:28 PM 

... and Grey.

 
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Funk
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Re: Military Peeps

May 29 2012, 2:19 PM 

I seems like a better question to ask at this point it who here wasn't in the military?


 
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Ginny
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May 29 2012, 2:20 PM 

I was not, although I did my part to support troop morale in the mid 90's.

 
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Comet
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Re: Military Peeps

May 29 2012, 5:26 PM 

I was in the Navy for 7 years.

 
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Hep C
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Re: Military Peeps

May 30 2012, 9:39 AM 

I was in Long Range Recon in the Army during the first Gulf War.

That's okay, ED, I sometimes found it ethically questionable too. Luckily, I have no moral compass. Well, I have one, but it always points where I want it to point.

I was definitely not one of the honor, duty, country guys. I had a more mercenary mentality.

A lot of people just couldn't understand how I didn't see the enemy as bad guys or evil terrorist scum, but still had no qualms about fighting them.

I also had nothing against the hippie protesters either - aside from their poor hygiene and questionable musical tastes. I like to think if I hadn't been away fighting, I would have been at home protesting. I actually respected them a lot more than the sheep that sat at home with no opinion.

 
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ED
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Re: Military Peeps

May 30 2012, 9:48 AM 

Intelligent post as always, Hep.

Still unclear re the lack of fighting qualms though.


 
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Squid Boy
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May 30 2012, 10:11 AM 

I've never been a soldier. My real experience with war is zero, save reading about it in the news, or reading and/or watching fictional accounts of it. Thanks for that for sure.

It's hard to imagine Military Boot Camp successfully training my instinct NOT to kill my fellow man out of me, but I know it's designed to do just that. It tries to make sure I wouldn't hesitate to kill someone intent on killing me. Even that I wouldn't hesitate to kill in a less clear situation given the order. As I sit here and type this, it's pretty hard to imagine getting there, given my most traumatic battle against another man consists of a college frat fight, thank goodness.

I guess, setting aside the validity of motivations for any wars, I'm grateful that I haven't really been needed, because I'm glad the part of me I reference above is still alive. I'm fairly confident I could 'kill' it and get to work doing the business of killing as a soldier, but I'm glad it still seems foreign. I have no illusion that the killing is the business - and I can totally see Hep's viewpoint about all the idealistic crap not really selling it or justifying it. Especially in every war of the last 50 years or so - where there have been no legions of huns landing on our shores - it's all a lot more abstract about the whys and who benefits.

Given my thoughts about oil, 9/11, the Patriot Act, and pretty much the inherrent lies told by the powerful for most of my adult life about what is really motivating most GeoPolitics these days, it'd be damn near impossible to convince me that I was killing anyone for George Washington's ideals about now.

I know that Nathan R. Jessup would scoff at me as one of the people who uses words like honor and discipline at cocktail parties as punch lines, but he'd be wrong. It's more that I don't kid myself that it's not really this: I'm grateful to those who've served to maintain the status quo, because I am well aware that I personally benefit from it.

I wish for a better status quo in which a far greater number of human beings enjoy a higher standard of living, but in my heart of hearts I have to admit that I don't mean that I'm ready to accept some radically lower level 'average of suckage' in order to get there immediately. I'd like to believe I'd accept something somewhat lower, but I know there are things I wouldn't compeletely give up peacefully.

So I guess when I think of the military being out there 'fighting for the American Way of Life' - I tend to understand that it's more HD TV's and jalapeno poppers on demand, than it is he Bill of Rights that I know most in the USA would vote out tomorrow if they could in favor of tyranny of their majorities.

 
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ED
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Re: Military Peeps

May 30 2012, 10:14 AM 

OK, OK, enough already, Squid - I'll vote for ya!  wink.gif

 
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PearlGurl
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Re: Military Peeps

May 30 2012, 10:46 AM 


Back when I was eighteen and trying to escape multi-generational poverty in a dying hick town, things like social consciousness and political awareness were unaffordable luxuries. If military entrance had required me to kill a couple of puppies and kittens, I probably would have rationalized that there were plenty more where they came from. At the time, the United States was still absorbing the lessons learned from getting involved in Vietnam and the Cold War had been a slow chess match that had dragged on for over forty years. It wasn't until the Gulf War started that I considered a world and viewpoints beyond my own little existence. It's easy to be smug about being too evolved to kill for a living when you've never had choose between that and bagging groceries for the rest of your life. That said, I'm still proud of having been one of the people who have defended your right to free speech and pleased that you use it in an effective manner.

 
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AnonoPajama
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Re: Military Peeps

May 30 2012, 11:00 AM 

This explains a lot about where you're coming from. I can relate. Thanks for your service.

 
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Squid Boy
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Re: Military Peeps

May 30 2012, 11:43 AM 

Gosh I hope I didn't come across as smug there PG.

I've never had to make that choice. You're 100% right about that.

 
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Kohsblocks
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Re: Military Peeps

May 30 2012, 2:35 PM 

I want Squid to run for office somewhere, of something.

Have you thought about it? What I know about you, which granted is not a tremendous amount, makes me think that you would be a likeable and decisive leader. But, maybe I'm wrong. heh.

 
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AnonoPajama
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Re: Military Peeps

May 30 2012, 2:40 PM 

I like kool-aid!

 
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