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A message to all you dumbasses

May 27 2002 at 9:32 PM
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Rob The Pissed Off Stoner 

 
hi all
as you may or may not know i am a stoner
a strong beliver in it
and i am pissed of
im pissed of by dumbasses
people hear weed they the worst
when they hear of "drugs" they automatically think of junkies
people that are addicted to it
that it can kill
the fuckshits dont realise that its not that bad
the fucking hypocrites drink alcohol and then bulshit me about how bad weed it
weed is natural
the human body can handle it
alcohol is man made
the human body doesnt like it
thats why we puke, we feel like shit in the morning and we get aggrivated easily
but when they hear "drugs" they dont think of alcohol they think of harmfull drugs like crack or heroin
are you people stupid
before you put us "druggies" down
and what really pisses me off is that most people who put me down drink
you fucking hypocrites
now read this

and for the people that are too lazy to try and find there own stuff below is some stuff you can read
this is actually copied from a official council

10 Things Every Parent, Teenager & Teacher Should Know About Marijuana
by The Family Council on Drug Awareness

Reprinted in the public interest without permission from a flyer by the Family Council on Drug Awareness. This flyer is being distributed at public functions such as concerts, school gatherings, trade shows, and craft shows. Any typographic errors, unless noted, are mine. The author of this post has no affiliation with any agency or persons related to this document, and refrains from editorial comment.

"Prohibition... goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." -- Abraham Lincoln December, 1840

This pamphlet was researched and produced as a public service by the Family Council on Drug Awareness P.O. Box 71093, LA, CA 90071-0093

Additional copies available from:

BACH, PO Box 71093, L.A., CA 90071-0093 35 cents apiece, Ten for $2.00, 100 for $10

1 Q. What is Marijuana?

A. "Marijuana" refers to the dried leaves and flowers of the cannabis plant [1], which contain the non-narcotic chemical THC at various potencies. It is smoked or eaten to produce the feeling of being "high." The different strains of this herb produce different sensual effects, ranging from sedative to stimulant.

2 Q. Who Uses Marijuana?

A. There is no simple profile of a typical marijuana user. It has been used for 1000s of years for medical, social, and religious reasons and for relaxation [2]. Several of our Presidents [3] are believed to have smoked it. One out of every five Americans say they have tried it. And it is still popular among artists, writers, musicians, activists, lawyers, inventors, working people, etc.

3 Q. How Long Have People Been Using Marijuana?

A. Marijuana has been used since ancient times [4]. While field hands and working people have often smoked the raw plant, aristocrats historically prefer hashish [5] made from the cured flowers of the plant. It was not seen as a problem until a calculated disinformation [sic] campaign was launched in the 1930s [6], and the first American laws against using it were passed [7].

4 Q. Is Marijuana Addictive?

A. No, it is not [8]. Most users are moderate consumers who smoke it socially to relax. We now know that 10% of our population have "addictive personalities" and they are neither more nor less likely to overindulge in cannabis than in anything else. On a relative scale, marijuana is less habit forming than either sugar or chocolate but more so than anchovies. Sociologists report a general pattern of marijuana use that peaks in the early adult years, followed by a period of levelling off and then a gradual reduction in use [9].

5 Q. Has Anyone Ever Died From Smoking Marijuana?

A. No; not one single case, not ever. THC is one of the few chemicals for which there is no known toxic amount [10]. The federal agency NIDA says that autopsies reveal that 75 people per year are high on marijuana when they die: this does not mean that marijuana caused or was even a factor in their deaths. The chart below compares the number of deaths attributable to selected substances in a typical year:

Tobacco...............................340,000 - 395,000

Alcohol (excluding crime/accidents).............125,000+

Drug Overdose (prescription)............24,000 - 27,000

Drug Overdose (illegal)...................3,800 - 5,200

Marijuana.............................................0

*Source: U.S. Government Bureau of Mortality Statistics, 1987

6 Q. Does Marijuana Lead to Crime and/or Hard Drugs?

A. No [11]. The only crime most marijuana users commit is that they use marijuana. And, while many people who abuse dangerous drugs also smoke marijuana, the old "stepping stone" theory is now discredited, since virtually all of them started out "using" legal drugs like sugar, coffee, cigarettes, alcohol, etc.

7 Q. Does Marijuana Make People Violent?

A. No. In fact, Federal Bureau of Narcotics director Harry Anslinger once told Congress just the opposite - that it leads to non-violence and pacifism [12]. If he was telling the truth (which he and key federal agencies have not often done regarding marijuana), then re-legalizing marijuana should be considered as one way to curb violence in our cities. The simple fact is that marijuana does not change your basic personality. The government says that over 20 million Americans still smoke it, probably including some of the nicest people you know.

8 Q. How Does Marijuana Affect Your Health?

A. Smoking anything is not healthy, but marijuana is less dangerous than tobacco and people smoke less of it at a time. This health risk can be avoided by eating the plant instead of smoking it [13], or can be reduced by smoking smaller amounts of stronger marijuana. There is no proof that marijuana causes serious health or sexual problems [14] but, like alcohol, its use by children or adolescents is discouraged. Cannabis is a medicinal herb that has hundreds of proven, valuable theraputic uses - from stress reduction to glaucoma to asthma to cancer therapy, etc. [15].

9 Q. What About All Those Scary Statistics and Studies?

A. Most were prepared as scare tactics for the government by Dr. Gabriel Nahas, and were so biased and unscientific that Nahas was fired by the National Institute of Health [16] and finally renounced his own studies as meaningless [17]. For one experiment, he suffocated monkeys for five minutes at a time, using proportionately more smoke than the average user inhales in an entire lifetime [18]. The other studies that claim sensational health risks are also suspect, since they lack controls and produce results which cannot be replicated or independently verified [19].

10 Q. What Can I Do About Marijuana?

A. No independent government panel that has studied marijuana has ever recommended jail for users [20]. Concerned persons should therefore ask their legislators to re-legalize and tax this plant, subject to age limits and regulations similar to those on alcohol and tobacco.

For More Information, Write:

Family Coucil on Drug Awareness P.O. Box 71093, LA CA 90071-0093

FOOTNOTES TO THE TEXT:

1. The same plant, known as hemp, has an estimated 50,000 non-drug commercial uses including paper, textiles, fuels, food and sealants, but these uses are also banned by existing laws. Sources: Encyclopedia Britannica, federal documents and historical records.

2. Coptic Christians, Rhastafarnians [sic], Shintos, Hinus, Buddhists, Sufis, Essenes, Zoroastrians, Bantus, and many other sects have traditions that consider the plant to have religious value.

3. Their personal correspondence and records reveal that U.S. Presidents Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, and others smoked hashish, as did Benjamin Franklin and Mary Todd Lincoln. President John F. Kennedy is also reported to have smoked marijuana to relieve his back pain. Many of America's greatest leaders and Founding Fathers (including George Washington) were hemp farmers. Sources: National Archives, published reports.

4. Archeologists report that cannabis was possibly the first plant cultivated by humans - about 8000 B.C. - and was used for linen, paper, and garments. Source: Columbia University, History of the World. It was being smoked in China and India as early as 2700 B.C.

5. Turkish smoking parlors were popular in both Europe and America. as well as the Middle and Far East, as recently as the turn of the Century.

6. The exhaustive Indian Hemp "Raj" Commission report (1986) by British authorities found no reason to restrict its use. But the notorious yellow journalist William Randolph Hearst fabricated and published horror stories about marijuana that were eventually investigated and shown to be lies, but not until long after the marijuana prohibition was enacted in 1938. Source: Larry Sloman, Reefer Madness.

7. Laws against marijuana were passed a year after the invention of a machine to harvest and process hemp so it could compete commercially against businesses owned by Hearst, the DuPonts and other powerful families. Source: Jack Herer, The Emporor Wears No Clothes.

8. Marijuana does not lead to physical dependency. Costa Rican Study, 1980; Jamaican Study, 1975; Nixon Blue Ribbon Report, 1972, et. al.

9. Source: Psychology Today, Newsweek, et.al.

10. Source: All univerity medical studies: UCLA, Harvard, Temple, etc.

11. Costa Rican Study, 1980; Jamaican Study, 1975; "The legal drugs for adults, such as alcohol and tobacco...precede the use of all illicit drugs." Source: National Academy of Sciences.

12. The FBI reports that 65-75% of criminal violence is alcohol related. "Pacifist syndrome" testimony was given by Federal Bureau of Narcotics Director Harry Anslinger before Congress (1948). However, the "Siler" Study conducted by the U.S in Panama (1931) reported "no impairment" in military personnel who smoked marijuana while off duty.

13. "The only clinically significant medical problem is that scientifically linked to marijuana is bronchitis. Like smoking tobacco, the treatment is the same: stop smoking." Source: Dr. Fred Oerther, M.D.

14. Coptic study (UCLA), 1981; "There is not yet any conclusive evidence as to whether prolonged use of marijuana causes permanent changes in the nervous system or sustained impairment of brain function and behavior in human beings." Source: National Academy of Sciences.

15. Source: Dr. Tod Mikuriya, Marijuana Medical Papers. Marijuana could replace at least 10-20% of prescribed drugs now in use. Source: Dr. Raphael Mechoulam. Marijuana was a major active ingredient in 40-50% of patent medicines before its ban.

16. 1976

17. 1983

18. The U.S. Government reports that the oral dose of cannabis required to kill a mouse is about 40,000 times the dose required to produce symptoms of intoxication in man. Source: Lowe, _Journal of Pharmacological and Experimental Therapeutics_, Oct. 1946.

19. In another famous study, Heath/Tulane (1974), wild monkeys were brutally captured, then virtually suffocated in marijuana smoke over a period of 90 days. Source: National Institute of Health.

20. Examples: the "LaGuardia" Committee Report (New York, 1944) and President Richard Nixon's Blue Ribbon "Shafer" Commission (1972).


there, now that youve read that the next time you call some one a "druggie" think you fucking dumb shit

 
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rob the dreadlock rasta tramp

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May 27 2002, 10:14 PM 

rob i feel wot ur sayin mate but like anyfink u do too much and enjoy u do become addicted try livin with out weed and see if u can manage. Im also sure that there is a reason why the substance is ilegal u obviously hav not found out why. But why ban somethink that is completely harmless IT CANT BE! so shut ur mouth and if u wana become a pot head then do so but dont try to force ur stupid and quite pathetic opinions on us dumbasses! u do wot u wana do and so will I. Peace and love x

 
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Rob A.K.A. Mr.Stoner

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May 28 2002, 1:32 AM 

Rob I think you must have been stoned whilst you wrote this message (good point, when aren't u, lol), coz the top half of the message is v. bad english & makes no sense!

Drugs smell, & you end up leaving people & not knowing where you end up, needing munchies!!!

Alcohol rules & its legal its the only way 2 go! That's my opinion & possibly many others, Rob if you wanna get stoned all the time, it's up to you. As a friend I have told you that you do smoke it too much & you seem addicted, though you've said you cant get addicted, fair enough but would you be able to go for a week without it?

As a friend i respect your decision to do this, even though i dont agree with it! You know this as we have had this decussion many times. If a friend tells you that he isnt interested you should also respect their decision as a friend & try not to push them.

& anyway drugs gets you into trouble!! Remember the Shooting Star!! Thats all i have to say, it didnt leave you or Rich in a good state did it?


Rob, youre a good mate & i hate to see you get waste your life!!

Word Up & Peace out!

 
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gem who doesnt drink, smoke, or use drugs

firstly... ALCOHOL DOESNT FUCKING RULE

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May 28 2002, 7:47 AM 

my mom and dad were stoners... as some of you know. in fact, most of our parent probably were! but i have to disagree with that article when it says that weed doesnt lead to harder drugs. ive seen it and heard of it happen and the person even said that they did it because they wanted more than weed could give... basically they used it so much, they got bored and wanted to try other things.

dont hate me or scream at me crap in your defense about it not doing that, and that it wouldnt happen to you blah blah blah because ill just get you killed (isnt that right yat?).
this isnt aimed at you rob because youre my pal and i always say that its up to the person what they do... but just be careful trebor!!!

umm... nothing else to say

gem

 
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Yat

Chill The Fuck Out

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May 28 2002, 3:12 PM 

Yo Rob chill out man..yeah everyone hears ur view
but less of the "dumbass." Have ur views but dont
criticise people for not havin the same view. U suppose to be someone who beleives in "freedom of speech" Yeah thats ur view and u feel its right but people have other views which they think are right.

Wen ya say Weed doesnt make u go on to stronger...that aint 100% right! Drug dealers aim in life is to make money from people...ova time they will offer u something stronger...firstly cause ur a regular user and secondly they can make more money off ya. The government name for this is "drug pushers" thats y they are thinking bout droppin Weed to a lower class.
Rob beleive me man...I know wat Im talkin bout.

Aint dissin ya u know I dont play that sort of shit...but let people have an opnion even if ya dont think its right.

Peace and Love
Yat

Ps: Yeah Gem...that was sum crazy shit! ha ha

 
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Andy

word!

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May 28 2002, 10:20 PM 

Word & respect to Yat!

 
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gem

Re: word!

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May 29 2002, 5:14 PM 

andy you bastard... thats my word!


 
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Rob the even more pissed Stoner

Re: Re: word!

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May 30 2002, 10:41 AM 

Firstly Weed doesnt lead to harder drugs
people lead to harder drugs
ive been doing weed for ages
ive done harder things, and ive got no need to go back
the main reason why people think drugs are bad is because of the misapplication of it by unstable minds.
.and to that one mother F**ker that left that message about me, ive been longer than a week without weed. ive been about 3 years without it.
im not trying to force my views on anyone.
im as much against propaganda as the next person.
all i want to do is make people realise that just because im a stoner doesnt mean im a junkie.
And there is a reason for why it is illegal.
in america when it was a mainly white race living there, and more ethnics races moved in the whites didnt like it. the mexicans mainly had Cannabis as a recreational drug and the mexicans had cocaine as a recreational drug.
becuse the whites didnt want anymore of the the mexicans or blacks coming in the made cocaine and cannbis illegel. and because England , as much as they do (as you may have noticed in Cockshut Hill School With "Principle" gentil) they followed the same law and made them illegal.
so there you f**ker, you wanted a reason, you got it.

 
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Rob

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May 30 2002, 10:43 AM 

and i ment the word "dumbass" to all the people who put Stoners down with out reading first

 
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Yat

Robs a Junkie!

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May 30 2002, 4:43 PM 

Rob wat would u do if I called u a junkie just for a joke?

 
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Rob

Re: Robs a Junkie!

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May 30 2002, 6:41 PM 

I would have to say
"grab a glass of orange juice and let the X destroy"
then i would kick your sorry ass

 
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sitting on the fence

Re: Re: Robs a Junkie!

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May 30 2002, 8:37 PM 

Though weed dont botha me, check this out:
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v00.n1521.a05.html

 
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gem

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May 31 2002, 9:04 AM 

theres always something bad associated with something good... weed is no different obviously



 
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Rob

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May 31 2002, 9:42 AM 

Granted Weed isnt a perfect drug
but what is
but in that study they fail to mention that when they do the studies they test it on first time users.
making the effects look muuch worse that what they actually are on regular users.
as any stoner knows at the begining its a different high. as they get used to it the effects are different.
and as for the fact that it contains up to 4 times as many cancer causing chemicals that tobacco, fair enough. but people who smoke weed smoke alot less than people who smoke tobacco. if do smoke weed i only need about 1 joint and i am set for the night. some smokers can have up to 5 fags per hour when going out, or just staying in.
with cannabis as any other plant there are different effects with different strains.
some can have a trippy feel, some a energetic feel, some a relaxing feel and so on.
but with weed as any other drug, the main variable is the users mind. how they feel at the time of taking it depends highly on what the "high" will be

 
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Rico

There's no point in trying to explain your point.

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May 31 2002, 12:48 PM 

People believe diff things by either experience or the way they have been bought up. One thing I might say is try not to sway peoples thoughts. They have their own minds and decision making abilities.

You should be happy with what you believe.

Rico

 
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Sober Rob

Re: There's no point in trying to explain your point.

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June 10 2002, 12:18 AM 

ive been sober for OVER a week now.

 
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