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Making Vocals Fit - The Debate Rages On

July 29 2002 at 11:51 AM
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  (Login Richie_Patrese)

 
Am I missing something here. I've been using Acid for three years now (the software, natch) and still find it difficult to get vocals to fit in properly (see the "Tough Ladyboys" link posted here a couple of weeks ago - although thats as much down to Modjo's dodgy fx-laden accapella as my bad timing)

Anyone got any tips - or am I just too impatient and not spending enough time low level editing - also should I cut the vocal into small chunks to fit or is it better to leave it in bigger chunks etc.

Even though I voted A in the poll (to save my skin) I really do believe that the vocals should fit...

 
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I'm a newbie, and a lazy one at that...

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July 29 2002, 12:01 PM 

but I do tend to zoom right in, and cut it up into smaller chunks wherever I can hear it go out of synch.

I expect that the more I learn and experiment, i'll chop the whole thing up right from the start, and probably into even smaller pieces for more control over it all.


 
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Re: Making Vocals Fit - The Debate Rages On

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July 29 2002, 12:41 PM 

Maybe its easier if you get the original version of the track to find out where the beats are on the vocal, then split the vocal into 4 beat or 8 beat bars, and as long as you have the instrumental your using beatmatched right, the bars should fit in in time if you drop em at the right place.

 
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yeah, but it's also cool to..

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July 29 2002, 12:57 PM 

not listen to the original and just listen by ear. Sometimes you can come up with something that sounds much cooler, if you place the acapella in a slightly different place along the beat than the original was.

And it really does make difference to how the whole thing sounds.

sometimes you need to start a line from a verse a little quicker, or a little slower than the original one is, which is why I cut it up and duplicate the track.

This raises an interesting point (for me, anyway) - I don't mind leaving a bigger gap between vocals or making them closer together, if that's what it takes to make it fit, and as long as it still sounds good, because I want it to be as different from the original track as possible. However, I did have one person who was put off by the fact that an acapella didn't run as completely true to the original.

 
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July 29 2002, 1:03 PM 

Cheers guys, looks like I'll need to be more patient then - I usually do try to cut the vocal up in that way. Good tips though.

I agree it is good to change the way the vocals sound using the backing track - just check the difference between the same "Without Me" accapella on Phoam's "Without Pop Muzik" and the notorious Freelance Hairdresser's "Marshall's Been Snookered".

 
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