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July 7 2006 at 10:02 PM
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It is always good to try to improve. Here is a suggestion:

For the genitive, instead of using -(i)f and (i)fs, use it the following way:

Mlodic lubil mlodicam.
Mlodicam lubil mlodic.

I think it's pretty clear that these are the same sentence with a different word order. The plural is as following:

Mlodic lubil mlodicami.
Mlodicami lubil mlodic.

I used the Slavic instrumental to give the impression of "not the subject" to a Slavic speaker. Here I think -(a)mi is a better-sounding genitive.

Peter idit vo sxkolam.

That should also be understandable better than the confusing "sxkoluf". You can't claim to be understandable by 400 million people if you use completely new forms!

 
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Great suggestion.

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July 8 2006, 5:03 AM 

Hi this is a great suggestion. But something like this has been already under consideration, and still is under consideration. We should research the various alternatives suggested here:
http://www.slovio.com/1/0.voprosis/problemis.html
to see which is the best alternative.

 
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Re: Great suggestion.

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July 8 2006, 2:41 PM 

Ah, but the best possible solution is probably using NATURALLY occuring slavic endings. Slovio is going towards least possible conflicts, but conflicts in this case are good as long as the meanings are close anyway.

For the genitive we can use other cases because Slovio doesn't have other cases.

let me put down six cases here for singular using say.. Slovak

mlodica
mlodici
mlodice
mlodicu
mlodicou

for plural

mlodici
mlodic
mlodicam
mlodici
mlodicah
mlodicami

I believe we have two options if we use existing cases:

h ending and m ending

mlodica
mlodicah
mlodicahs

or

mlodica
mlodicam
mlodicams

not sure what vowel to take if it is a consonant root
let's look at a Slovak table
singular

dlan'
dlane
dlani
dlan'
dlanou

plural

dlane
dlani
dlaniam
dlane
dlaniah
dlanami

apparently it is the letter a that is added

in Slovio dlan' becomes dlon

thus,
dlon
dlonah
dlonahs

or

dlon
dlonam
dlonams



-(a)m and -(a)ms seem to be the winner because it is instantly understood to be NOT the subject (the subject can never be in the instrumental duh)


 
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-(a)m i -(a)ms

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July 9 2006, 2:01 PM 

-(a)m i -(a)ms ne es vigralnik, bo:

mlodica (zxenju) > mlodica-m
mlodic (muzxju) > mlodic-am

naidobrju es (derzxit Slovio mnogost-koncenie):

(u)m i (u)mis, takak:

mlodica (zxenju) > mlodica-m
mlodic (muzxju) > mlodic-um; i

mlodicas (zxenju, mnogost) > mlodica-mis
mlodicis (muzxju, mnogost) > mlodic-umis.

n.p.: mlodicis lubjut mlodicas = mlodicamis lubjut mlodicis = mlodicis lubjut mlodicamis.

Iglu > iglum, iglumis
historia > historiam
Slavia > Slaviam
mlek > mlekum
maslo > maslom
kolibri > kolibrim, kolibrimis
Sunce > Suncem, Suncemis
Guru > gurum, gurumis, itd..

Eugeniusx

 
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Re: -(a)m i -(a)ms

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July 9 2006, 3:16 PM 

Oh, I see
then I voice my support for -(u)m and -(u)ms

 
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(u)m i (u)mis

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July 10 2006, 2:23 AM 

Sxto tvoi imen?

Eugeniusx

 
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Re: (u)m i (u)mis

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July 10 2006, 9:38 AM 

I sometimes forget to put my name down

look at my email address to figure out

 
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