October 21 2006 at 10:57 AM No score for this post
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The words for "bolete", "fung" and "sponge" are somehow related in Slavic languages, that's why they should be considered together during creating the vocabulary.
So the most common word for "fungus" is grib. Yes, it creates confusion with Czech where it means "bolete" only but this fact can't outweigh the commonness of grib.
The most common word for "sponge" is gubka.
In terms of "bolete", we have got several non-confusing possibilities that look equally good: borovik, manatarka, vrgan. Unfortunately, I didn't manage to find the word "bolete" in dictionaries of western south Slavic languages. Do Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Slovene have their own special word(s) for "bolete" or do they tend to have one of the previously mentioned three words? The answer would help to solve the situation.
Bor-czyk i bor-owik (Boletus edulis)
Iskats ot znacxenie Borczykum ja naidil slovi takak: borowik, borowina, borowy, borówka, borsuk i borykanie.
Izklucxuo posledju slov borykanie, vse slov imat sviaz lesum. Ale sxto znacxit "bor". Vo Cxehju i Serbhrvatju slovknig ja uziavil zxe tam bor znacxit sosna (=sosna(pl), сосна(ru)). Tapocx ja dumajm zxe "borovik" bilbi dobrju slov dla tut vkusju grib. Moi bratcxe skazal zxe borovik rastit vo dost suhju mesto vo sosno-lesi i vo dub-lesi.
Zdrav Milos,
Interesju! Problem es zxe tut grib rastijt vo dub i vo sosna-les. Les-grib, ja mislijm es, peremnog vseobicxesk.
Sxto mislijsx ot dub-sosnak?
Many fungs occur in woods, so "les-grib" would be too general. As far as "dub-grib", "sosna-grib" or "bor-grib" are concerned, boletes occur under many trees and their subspecies are named according to these trees. In Czech, there are hr'ib dubovy' (literally "oak bolete"), hr'ib smrkovy' (literally "pine bolete") etc. So to name the whole specie according to one subspecie would probably not be a good idea, too ...
Some uncompounded word would fit my taste the best. But I can easily live with a compound, if somebody can made up a good one.
And I found this problem the most important since we have to point what name
will be for what species [and it also pays in biology, chemistry, physics,mineralogy, astronomy etc, etc.
This problem I think will be the biggest.
e.g. look for the name moon in Polish, Russian, Slovak / Czech.
Only one subspecie of boletes occurs under sosnas, so it would not be good to name the whole specie after one subspecie only.
2) borov-grib
I think that borov is not a word in Slovio, so I'd rather prefer to borrow borovik directly from Polish than to invent a pseudo-compound "borov-grib" ...