2007-11-01, cxtirak. Prosxlju nocx v nektor krainis bil slavnitju Halovin i tut den, den posle Halovinju nocx, v mnogju krainis slavnijut takzvanju Den Vse Sviatnikifs. Iz Slaviansk krainis imame nikai raportis o vazxnju nesxtasties usled sxalost Halovinju nocxuf.

2007-11-01, cxtirak. Podcxas prosxlju dva den zatopis smertili prinaimensx trinades cxlovekis v sredju Vietnam. Zatopis bili pricxinilju ot potokju dozxdis.

2007-11-01, cxtirak. Seba-bombnik ktor vzrivil autobus provozitsju sluzxnikis vozduh-voiskof vo vostok-Pakizemju provincia Pangxab smertil prinaimensx 8 i poranil duzinas cxlovekis.

2007-11-01, cxtirak. Sxef Iranju Revolucju Gvardiafs, generalnik Mohammad al-Gxifari, proglosil zxe esli USA bu napadit Iran zxe bu zapoimalju v plus glubinju boloto cxem v Irak.

2007-10-31, sredak. Tropikju buria Noel smertil v Karibia uzx bolsx cxem 50 cxlovekis. V Dominikaju Republik bili uzx raportilju trides cxlovekis i v sosedju Haiti dvades. Obdva Dominikaju Republik i Haiti es na Karibju ostrov Hispaniola.

2007-10-31, sredak. V Rosju grod Toliatti, ktor es okol tisicx kilometris jug-zapaduo ot Moskva tut utro vzrivil bomb vnutr perepolnju pasazxir-autobus. Prinaimensx 8 cxlovekis bili smertilju i okol 40 bili poranilju. Grod Toliatti es centr Rosju automobilju promisluf.

2007-10-31, sredak. Tut utro mocju zemtrasenie silaf 7,5 gradusis Rihtersxkalaf udaril v oblast Tih-okeanuf severuo ot Mariana ostrovis. Epicentr bil pod Tih-okean v glubin okol 220 km. Nikai cunami bil raportilju.

2007-10-31, sredak. Vzriv gaz-trubvoduf i sledju pozxar vo Francju grod Bondy ktor es severuo ot Parizx smertil prinaimensx din i poranil neskolk duzinas cxlovekis. Trubvod bil usxterbilju ot trudnikis posred ekskavator. Pozxar opustosxil tozx din kvartir-dom i restoran.

2007-10-30, vtorak. Seba-bombnik ktor vzrivil seba okol dva km ot Musxarafvoi glavn-ofis v Pakizemju grod Rawalpindi smertil prinaimensx siem cxlovekis.

2007-10-30, vtorak. Serbju polcia tut den podcxas cxtir cxasis voprosil Darko Mladicx, sin om generalnik Ratko Mladicx. Proti-Slaviansk Haagju tribunal obvinil Ratko Mladicx za genocid i za voina-zlocxinis. Haagju sud es dominiritju i kontrolitju ot ne-Slavianis i ot proti-Slaviansk rasistis.

2007-10-30, vtorak. Dva kozmosnautis sxatluf Discovery, Scott Parazynski i Daniel Wheelock, startili klucxju uzx triju kozmos-prohodka dla montirenie masaju 17,5 tonaju nesiteluf sunce-panelifs.

2007-10-30, vtorak. Soglosuo s ekspertnikis Mosulju damba, naivelju damba Irakuf, es v katastrofju polozxenie i grozijt toi neposredju kolaps ktor mozxbi smertit sto-tisicxis obitatelifs Irakju vel-groduf Mosul. Mosul es pod damba i imajt 1,7 milion obitatelis.

2007-10-30, vtorak. Prinaimensx dva-des cxlovekis bili smertilju v Karibia usled potopis pricxinilju ot potokju dozxis tropikju buriaf Noel. Bolsxost zxertvas bili v glavn-grod Dominikaju Republikuf, Santo-Domingo. Cxislo zxertvas esxte mozx visxit ibo okol 20 inju cxlovekis es esxte ne-naidilju. Buria Noel blizijt sever-zapadju Bahama.

2007-10-30, vtorak. Takzvanju sto-dolarju-komputor ktor bil razvilju dla bedaju upotrebitelis uzx cenijt dva-sto dolaris. Popri inju pricxinis cen produktenief tut komputoruf visxil tozx usled nizitsju cen USA-ju dolaruf. Tut komputor bil razvilju ot firma Media-Lab i do tper imajt zakazis tolk ot Uruguai, Peru i Mongolia. Ne zname pocx do tper nikai Slaviansk krain zakazil tut komputor. Li Slavianis ne potrebijut bez-dragju komputoris dla internet?

2007-10-29, ponedelak. Vo vcxeraju Argentinju prezidentju izvolba vigral gospica Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner i bu statit pervju zxenju izvolilju prezident Argentiniaf.

2007-10-28, posubotak. Soglosuo s polit-ekspertnikis nedavnju sankcias Busxvoi rezximuf proti Iran signalijut neposredju napadenie Iranuf ot Izraelju i USA-ju voiskos. Takai voina mozxbi visxit cen neftuf nad sto dolaris za bocxka.

2007-10-28, posubotak. Vcxera bili v Ukrainia u Kiev vnov pod-grobilju okol dva-tisicx zxertvas Stalinvoi rezximuf. Telos bili peremestilju iz tainju masaju grob iz period mezx rocxis 1936 i 1941 v novju grobuf u Kiev.

2007-11-02, piatak. V Europsoiuz nacxil celo-Europju presledenie pedofilnikis. Tut masaju presledenie napomnijt sred-vekju presledenie cxaronicas. Kritiknikis voprosijut pocx vmest presledenie ne-nasilju pedofilnikis polcia ne presledijt plus intensivuo nasilju ubitelis ili nark-prodatelis. Soglosuo s ekspertnikis pedofilnikis dolzxbi lecxitju vmest obhoditju takak ubitelis.

2007-11-02, piatak. V dva kontaineris iz Kolombia ukrilju v Meksikju port Manzanillo Meksikju polcia naidil rekordju 23-tonas kokainuf.

2007-11-02, piatak. Proslavju tenisnica, Martina Hingis, vcxera oglosil zxe bu koncit svoi profesju tenisju kariera usled nedavnju podozrenie zxe ona upotrebil kokain. Martina bil rodilju vo vostok-Slovakju grod Kosxice no konkuril pod Sxveicarju flag. Obdva Martinavoi biologju roditelis es Slavianis.

2007-11-02, piatak. Vcxera umiral vo vek 92 rocxis, Paul Tibbets, pilot i nacxalnik letidlof Enola Gay, ktor dol-kidal pervju atom-bomb na Japonju grod Hirosxima. Enola Gay bil bomb-letidlo tipuf B-29 ktor bil imenilju posle mama om Paul Tibbets. Tot bomb-letidlo om 6-ju August 1945 dol-kidal na Hirosxima atom-bomb ktor neposreduo smertil okol sto-tisicx obitatelis i smertuo poranil des-tisicxis ktor pozdue umirali usled palenie i radiacia.

2007-11-02, piatak. Veditelis 10 Gruzinju opozicju polit-partas i organizacias planijut tut den vstretie i protest v glavn-grod Tbilisi u ubodv parlamentuf. Veditelis ocxekajut do sto-tisicx demonstritelis proti Saakasxvilivoi teror-rezxim. Saakasxvilivoi perevrot, pred neskolk rocxis, bil financilju i organizilju ot USA-ju tainju sluzxbas i sleditelis obdumajut jeg takak USA-ju marionetnik. Protestis bili spuskilju usled zaderzxenie i izgonenie veditsju opozicnikuf, gospic Okruasxvili.

2007-11-02, piatak. Posle opustosxenie Karibiaf i smertenie bolsx cxem sto cxlovekis tropik-buria Noel siljuvil i statil hurikan pervju kategoriaf ktor imajt vitr 120 km/cxas. Nauknikis ocxekajut zxe Noel bu putovat u vostokju primorie sever-Amerikuf v napramenie Kanadju provinciaf Nov-Sxkotia.

2007-11-01, cxtirak. Sto-tisicxis Rumanju immigritelis ktor zatopili Italia posle vstup Rumaniaf v Europsoiuzuf pricxinijut bolsx i bolsx problemis. Usled nedavnju znasilie i ubitie Italju zxenuf v Rim ot Rumanju imigritel, Italju autoritet obvazxijt izgonenie Rumannikis iz Italia.

2007-11-01, cxtirak. Des-tisicxis obitatelis ubegili iz jug-vostokju Meksikju sxtat Tabasko, ktor udarili masaju zatopis. Usled potokju dozxd ktor nacxil prosxlju vikend rekas peretecxili svoi bregis.

2007-11-01, cxtirak. Iz Rosju kozmosdrom Pleseck bil tut den uspehuo gor-puskilju v krug-zemlaju orbituf Nemcju sxpion-satelit SAR-Lupe.

2007-11-04, posubotak. Tropik-buria Noel, ktor prosxlju siemden opustosxil Karibia i smertil bolsx cxem 120 cxlovekis, tper udaril sever-vostokju USA i vostok-Kadadju provincia Nov-Sxkotia. Tper Noel imajt vitr silaf okol 115 km/cxas. Vo sxtat Masacxusets okol 25-tisicx domis ostatili bez elektrik. Noel es cxtirnadesju imenilju buria tut-rocxju hurikanju sezonuf.

2007-11-04, posubotak. Tut den Rosia uzx triju raz slavnijt Den Narodju Edinostuf. Tut narodju sviatak bil proglosilju pred tri rocxis takak pamiat om svobodenie Moskvaf v rocx 1612 ot Polakju vtorgatelis.

2007-11-03, subotak. Pred piatdes rocxis om 3-ju Novembr 1957, Soviet-soiuz gor-puskil v krug-zemlaju orbituf pervju sputnek nesitsju zver. Pervju zverju kozmosnaut Vsetuf bil pes Laika, ktor, zxaluo, umiral uzx posle neskolk cxasis usled goracxost pricxinilju ot defektju holodenie sputnekuf..

2007-11-03, subotak. Usled visxitsju nasilie i terorizm Pakizemju prezident Musxaraf dnes nanudil cxrez-obicxju status v celoju krain.

2007-11-03, subotak. Des tisicxis protestnikis taborili prosxlju nocx pred Gruzinju dom parlamentuf i uzx dvaju den prodolgijut protestis proti Saakasxvilivoi rezxim i vimagajut jegoi otstupenie. Poskroz masaju protestis, ot USA tainju sluzxbas podkupilju i podporitju marionentik Saakasxvili, ignorijt viprosbas protestnikifs.

2007-11-03, subotak. NASA-ju kozmosnaut Scott Parazynski tut den zudelal kozmos-prohodka podcxas ktor uspehuo ispravil razrvalju 35 metris dolgju sunce-panelju krilo Mezxunarodju Kozmosju Stanciaf.

Den Narodju Edinostuf

I thought it would be dinostuf

Ptica leteli v komnata.

I think Ptica is sg. (not pl.)

Leteli is for pl. and Ptica is sg.

Slovianski: Ptica letela v komnata. (or komnatu in Slovianski-N, it depends on the meaning intended)

dino means dinosaur for short.

dinostuf is probably connected with dinosaurs, right ?

malu domi
dolgu pismo
knige veliku
dobru pesi


It's not good 'cause it should be male domi (not malu domi) and dobre pesi (not dobru pesi).

(where are your slavic endings .... ? )

In Slovianski:

male domi
dolgo pismo
velike knigi
dobre p^(e)si

No, on internet on slovianski web site there are examples I mentioned above.

how is " unity " in Slovianski ?

oni ih ihni - they

what the hell is " ihni " ?

It's not slavic word.

what the hell is " ihni " ?

That's probably an imitation of Slovio onivoi.

When Russian stops being a Slavic language, then and only then will ihnij stop being a Slavic word.

It's already stopped.

unity = jedinstvo

.......In part, it came about as a reaction against various non-Slavic elements in the best-known Slavic interlanguage, Slovio......


what the hell is then Slovianski's words : kvazi, jablokesa, .....

Don't care, GS-Slovianski was the same bullshit as Slovio is.

If you have : unity = jedinstvo

Well, why do you have :

..... učinil ustupki na pol'ske žalovanja ob glosovanje v Evropejska Unija.


It shouldn't be Evropejska Unija in your texts because then you have the contradiction in your Slovianski.

Evropejska Unija is correct because the text speaks about the European Union, not the European unity.

Aha, but Union comes from unity namely "as one" and it is jedinstvo / jednota.

Union means sojuz / svaz / zvez / zvaz .....

(Un = one = jeden / odin and it means "jednota" in st.

If you use Union, then it's not correct in Slovianski.

Either you'll have UN for ONE or Europejski sojuz / svaz / jednota / jedinstvo .....

Russian: Jevropejskij sojuz, Jevrosojuz
Ukrainian: Jevropejs'kyj sojuz, Evropejs'ka Unija, Evropejs'ka Spivdruz'nist'
Belarusian: Jewrapejski Sajuz, Ewrapejski Z'vjaz, Ewraz'vjaz
Polish: Unia Europejska
Czech: Evropska unie
Slovak: Europska unia
Serbian, Bosnian, Slovenian, Macedonian: Evropska unija
Croatian: Europska unija
Bulgarian: Evropejski s_juz

So Evropejska Unija is most common, i.e. most Slavic languages don't use a word derived from their word for "one" for this idea, and I don't care about your theories of contradictions in Slovinski and imagionations of correct Slovianski, because I don't understand them anyway.

What's "European Union" in S-lingva, btw? Europe Enia?

If :

Den Narodju Edinostuf

I thought it would be dinostuf .....

then in Slovianski in should be : Jedinia and not Unia as well.


anyway En is close to Un (Unia) than Jeden to Unia.

As the word "unity" is derived from "one" in all Slavic languages, Hellerick suggested that if Slovio has din for "one" and -ost for abstract qualities, the stupid word din should be used also in the word for "unity": dinost.

But the words "one" and "union" are etymologically unrelated in all Slavic langauges (well, except for their common proto-Indo-European roots).

... But the words "one" and "union" are etymologically unrelated in all Slavic langauges (well, except for their common proto-Indo-European roots)....


- yes, they are related. Jednota, jednotnost, jedinstvo, etc. come from the number JEDEN.

That means "all in one", "all for one", the same as Unia, Union, from the number UN comprises the idea of UNITY (the ideas of common, unified Europe, Europe as "the ONE")

United State of America is the example of it. Un - Unit - United = 50 states are united in ONE country, state, society. English has taken the latin word UNUS instead of using just ONE. There are some more germanized latin words in English.

I wonder how you translate USSR .....


Do you use UNION or SVAZ or SOJUZ or ....... ?


Basicaly SOJUZ, SVAZ and UNION are denotationally the same words.

If you say jednota or svaz or sovez or unia etc. it has finally the same merit.

The number EN comes also from the word JED-EN so I can't see there any problem with it.

P.S. Slovio word DIN comes also from the word E-DIN (the only)or O-DIN that means ONE in russian.

if jed-en becomes en
then če-ty-re becomes re
o-sem becomes sem!

if jed-en becomes en
then če-ty-re becomes re
o-sem becomes sem!

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No, četyre becomes s'tir and osem becomes os, right ?


P.S. Many syllabel numbers are unpractical.

That's why I've chosen their shorten versions (as it is in many european natural languages that makes a big advantage in speed calculating - writing
and pronouncing them).

Then, as always, you are not creating a Slavic langauge. No Slavic langauge has a monosyllable word for "four".

Russian: Sovetskij Sojuz
Ukrainian: Rad'ans'kij Sojuz
Belarusian: Savecki Sajuz
Polish: Zwianzek Radziecki, Zwianzek Sowiecki
Czech: Sov'etsky svaz
Slovak: Sovietsky zvaz
Serbo-Croatian: Sovjetski Savez
Slovenian: Sovjetska zveza
Bulgarian: S_vetski s_juz
Macedonian: Sovetski Sojuz

So most common is Sovetski Sojuz.

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BTW, the words "unity" and "union" certainly have very close meanings, but not identical ones: union is a factual group of countries, unity is an abstract quality that characterises their mutual relations.

Yes, but all of them come from number UN (one).

Unless we speak about Slavic languages.

yes, but why you then use this UN (in Evropejska Unia) when you talk about slavic languages. UNia is not slavic words. Slavic word, instead of that, is
Evropejsky sojuz, or savez or jednota, or svaz, or zvaz .......


You nevertheless have adequate slavic word for Unia, don't you ?
But you use romance word (Unia) instead.

UNia is not slavic words.

It is a Slavic word - it is used by a majority of Slavic langauges.

namely if you want to use some word from east slavic languages as the all-slavic one then the same word can have totaly other meaning in west or south slavic languages and vice versa.

Of course. That's why I post all my Slovianski-P texts here - to be warned by others about false friends. The existence of false friends doesn't imply their unavoidability.

So nobody can allege that his/her constructed all-slavic language is absolutly understandable among the all Slavs without learning

Has anybody ever alleged it?

Namely, the totaly thought up word has got the same dificulty as that one that is in one or two (or majority) slavic languages but the rest of the Slavs have to learn this word anyway.

A word not understood by 100 million and another word not understood by 200 million don't have the same level of difficulty, although none of them is understandable to all Slavs.

They are related, but only by their meaning, not etymologically. On the other hand, there are words that are related etymologically but not by their meaning - typically verbs with various prefixes.

s'tir? That means dowel (or pintle)

and THAT'S why you don't make words shorter - because they lose their original meaning

what are you going to do with deset?
set? that's a net
des? means "somewhere" in Ukrainian
I guess it will be dset or dest

aha, but when ... des? means "somewhere" in Ukrainian .... then e.g. ukrainian word " жито " means " rye " in slovak and that will be always some problem with mutual understanding the all slavic languages.

Ukr. матка Slk. maternica ‘womb, uterus’
Slk. matka Ukr. мати ‘mother’

funny is this one :

Ukr. столиця Slk. hlavné mesto ‘capital’or EXCREMENT.
Slk. stolica Ukr. стілець ‘chair’


See : http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/False_Friends_of_the_Slavist

namely if you want to use some word from east slavic languages as the all-slavic one then the same word can have totaly other meaning in west or south slavic languages and vice versa.
So nobody can allege that his/her constructed all-slavic language is absolutly understandable among the all Slavs without learning and that the same as you would think up some non-slavic word for some meaning and start using it for all the Slavs.

Namely, the totaly thought up word has got the same dificulty as that one that is in one or two (or majority) slavic languages but the rest of the Slavs have to learn this word anyway.