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Freak of the EU
just to sell out "legally" the resources of Southern Serbia.
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1. Their "president" a wanted war criminal
2. Income only two main sources: money from the EU colonizers and, believe it or not, the trade with Serbia
3. Official language: English
4. Unemployment: more then 50 %
5. Illiterates about 15 %
6. Birth rate higher than in any African country
7. i tak dalej
Thanks to your stupid preachers who teach you to go to church and give them money. Our imams teach us stay in bed and make our women pregnant. We have taken from you Kosova, and those Albanians who live in Serbia will (in a few years) take away from you the rest of your country. Because you Serbs and all Slavs are stupid and don't make your women pregnant. We will make our women pregnant and yours too, and take from you the rest of Serbia, Macedonia, Monte Negro and in a few years also Russia!!! Ha, ha ha!!!
3. Official language: English
4. Unemployment: more then 50 %
5. Illiterates about 15 %
6. Birth rate higher than in any African country
Wait, Eugeniusx, communists are not racists! They don't judge people according to their language, employedness, literacy or number of children, just as they don't care about the colour of their skin!
(You know, Eugeniusx accuses everybody of racism so often that I couldn't resist.)
Facts like unemployment rates have nothing to to with racialism. I did mention this facts just to show that this construct is everything but an independent state.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov had this to say on 12 February, in a translation by the RIA Novosti news agency in Moscow: "We are speaking here about the subversion of all the foundations of international law, about the subversion of those principles which, at huge effort, and at the cost of Europe's pain, sacrifice and bloodletting have been earned and laid down as a basis of its existence.
"We are speaking about a subversion of those principles on which the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe rests, those [principles] laid down in the fundamental documents of the UN."
The main principle he refers to is that borders should be changed only by agreement.
In Russia and Serbia's view, since there is no agreement, there should be no recognition.
Georgia does not intend to recognize Kosovo's independence, and the issue is not on the agenda, a parliamentary spokesman for the former Soviet republic said on Sunday.
Of course Georgia doesn't want to recognize Kosovo, because then Russia would recognize South Ossetia and Abkhazia. But Russia should recognize those two republics anyway, if USA and EU recognize Kosovo. Let the Saaaaaakasxviiiiili go and suck the cocks of his bosses in the EU and US.
Belgrade brands Kosovo's independence "illegal"
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Just minutes after the Kosovan parliament voted, the Serb prime minister, Vojislav Kostunica, gave his reaction, branding the move "illegal". Referring repeatedly to the province of Kosovo, he said: "The true foundations of this puppet state are to be found in the bombs with which Nato destroyed Serbia. The truth must be told - behind this puppet regime we find Nato's military interests. This is confirmed in the Ahtisaari plan. This is how a puppet state was able to be created and it will remain a puppet state for all eternity even if western nations sacrifice international order and risk sacrificing peace.
"The President of the United States who is responsible for this violence and the Europeans who have followed his lead will be written in black letters into the history of Serbia and also into the history of international rights and international order based on those rights."
Kostunica said Serbia, as the sovereign power of Kosovo, annulled all decisions made by the Kosovan parliament concerning independence and would annul all decisions arising from what he described as "this illegal act".
In the same context, he said Belgrade also annulled the European Union's decision to send what he called an illegal mission to the province - a decision, he said, that proved once more the "powerlessness" of Europe.
Russia pledges support to Serbia
Serb President Boris Tadic and Russian Deputy PM Dmitry Medvedev meet in Belgrade
Russia has emerged as Serbia's strongest ally
The man tipped to become the next Russian president has vowed his country will "stick to" its support for Serbia in opposing Kosovo's independence.
Deputy PM Dmitry Medvedev was in Belgrade for talks with Serb President Boris Tadic and PM Vojislav Kostunica.
The Russian foreign ministry has accused the United States of "flagrant cynicism" in recognising Kosovo's declaration of independence a week ago.
The issue sparked protests in Belgrade last week.
"We proceed from the assumption that Serbia is a united country, whose jurisdiction covers the whole of its territory, and we shall stick to this principled stand," Mr Medvedev said during his meeting with Mr Kostunica, Russian news agency Itar-Tass reported.
Mr Medvedev's comments, and the timing of his visit, will be seen as evidence that Russia's foreign policy is unlikely to change once serving President Vladimir Putin steps down. (...)
Common Declaration of Communist and Workers’ Parties
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February 26 2008, 4:47 PM
Lisbon, 26th February 2008
Dear Comrades,
Thanking to all the Parties that subscribed the common declaration on
the self-declaration of independence of Kosovo, we send you attached the
Common Position with the list of Parties that subscribed it until 26th
February.
Naturally, all the other Parties that still want to join this common
declaration are welcome to do it.
Fraternal Greetings
The International Department of
Portuguese Communist Party
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Common Declaration of Communist and Workers’ Parties
on the self-proclaimed independence of Kosovo
The undersigned Parties faced with the self-proclaimed Kosovo
independence, promoted by United States of America, NATO and European
Union declare that:
Such a step – that violates the international law and United Nations’
resolutions on this subject - will have grave consequences in the
Balkans region and internationally.
It bring serious dangers for the peoples, triggering border changes,
threatening to engulf the whole region in a new escalation of conflicts,
wars and external interventions, and raising a dangerous international
precedent.
Our Parties voice against the secession of Kosovo from the Republic of
Serbia. We demand that all governments refrain from recognizing the
Kosovo independence as well as from dispatching troops in the area.
25th February 2008
The Parties,
1. PADS – Algeria
2. Communist Party of Australia
3. Workers Party of Belgium
4. Workers Communist Party of Bosnia and Herzegovina
5. Communist Party of Britain
6. New Communist Party of Britain
7. Communist Party of Brazil
8. Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia
9. Communist Party of Chile
10. AKEL, Cyprus
11. Socialist Workers Party of Croatia
12. Communist Party of Cuba
13. Communist Party in Denmark
14. Communist Party of Finland
15. Communist Party of Greece
16. Hungarian Communist Workers’ Party
17. Communist Party of India (Marxist)
18. Communist Party of India
19. Workers Party, Ireland
20. Party of the Italian Communists
21. New Communist Party of Yugoslavia
22. Lebanese Communist Party
23. Communist Party of Luxembourg
24. Party of the Communists, Mexico
25. New Communist Party of the Netherlands
26. Communist Party of Norway
27. People’s Party of Panama
28. Communist Party of Philippines (PKP 1930)
29. Portuguese Communist Party
30. Palestinian Communist Party
31. Communist Party of Peru
32. Communist Party of the Russian Federation
33. Communist Workers´ Party of Russia
34. South African Communist Party
35. Communist Party of Spain
36. Communist Party of the Peoples of Spain
37. Syrian Communist Party
38. Communist Party of Turkey
39. Communist Party of Ukraine
40. Union of the Communists of Ukraine
Re: Common Declaration of Communist and WorkersÂ’ Parties
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February 26 2008, 9:00 PM
Gabriel:
So, what's the position of a Communist Party of Kosovo?
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Komunistju Kosovo Albaniani tezx dla odrodenie Jugoslaviam. Gabriel, vo Cxehia vi imatje Komunistju Partia Sleskiam?
Re: Common Declaration of Communist and WorkersÂ’ Parties
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February 26 2008, 9:31 PM
If you know Islam and if you know K-M-L teachings you them must know that these two ideologies are in antagonistic contradictions.
You cannot put together islam as the religious teaching and books and teachings of Marx - Engels - Lenin together. It would be as if you put together religion and atheism.
Theory / teaching of M-E-L is from its foundations against the God who doesn't exist according to them (any God, not just christian one but also Alah) and Islam is against any unifying with other people who are not Moslims.
Re: Common Declaration of Communist and WorkersÂ’ Parties
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February 26 2008, 11:53 PM
I am afraid that you neither did understand the openness of the Islam religion towards science nor dialectical materialism.
Well, what makes you believe that because 70% of the Kosovo Albanians are officially Muslims, that an atheistic Party is not possible there?
Of course do I PUT religion and atheism together: without religion NO atheism!
We Atheists and Marxist are not against god, we just assume (and we do have good reasons for it) that he does not exist. And contrary to the believers who will stick to there believe by any means, WE would accept the existence of god if there will be a proof for his existence.
The problem of the fundamentalists, either religious or nationalistic, is that their brain is blocked. A kind of "sentence of death" for non-human animals! (...)
Re: Common Declaration of Communist and WorkersÂ’ Parties
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February 27 2008, 1:17 AM
My personal opinion is that when you capitalize the word "Atheism" you imply it's a kind of a religion (kinda "We believe that God does not exist") and therefore offend atheists. Atheism as principle that unproved and ungrounded on facts ideas of devine beings shouldn't be taken seriously should be written in lower case.
M-L teaching in absolute contradiction to any belief
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February 27 2008, 6:20 PM
I agree with the fact that if there are 70% albanian religious muslims in Kosovo then the rest are atheists. Some of them are christians and other other religious beliefs. So, let's say about 20% of them could be possibly atheists and therefore communists.
But I have never, never, never heard of any religious man that was the same time Marx-Leninist, as
their theories about scientifical communism is in absolute contradiction with any belief or worshiping any god / gods or whatever what/who is supernatural. That's why their teachings are called
materialistic (to the contrary to spiritualism).
I hope, now, you understand this fundamental principle of M-L teaching.
Re: M-L teaching in absolute contradiction to any belief
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February 27 2008, 6:30 PM
And moreover, I lived for 30 years in communist regime and now 18 years in (if we can say that) capitalist one. I can compare very well these two antagonistic ideologies (or whatever we could say that). I pactically lived in both systems (not theoretically as the most of you). We had even compulsory seminars about Marx-Lenin teaching and theory of M-L. And I could practically compare in every-day life what M-L teaching meant upon common people. The same time I lived in christian family with the christianic belief so I not only theoretically but also practically could compare impacts and ideology collisions of these two antagonistic things.
Well, you cannot teach or instruct me what is what and differences between the spiritual and hard materialistic things.
(I doubt very much that you have such several year experiences with both matters. If yes, tell me about it)
Re: M-L teaching in absolute contradiction to any belief
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February 27 2008, 9:50 PM
Zdravo Anonimnik!
I am Marxist and atheist since more than 20 years. And I am a bit astonished about your unscientific use of words like e.g. "communist" and "spiritual". Did you daydream during your M-L teachings?
Re: M-L teaching in absolute contradiction to any belief
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February 27 2008, 10:50 PM
As far as I know you have never lived in any communist country and not even as long as I lived since I was born. I lived throught my childhood in communist country till I was 30. So, I lived 30 years around the communists. You cannot teach me or explain me how the communist country looked like because you never lived in any totalitarian communist country.
Second, you probably never read M-L and that's why you cannot compare what was written in their works with the real communist regime at that time.
You can just listen to those who lived in such country and absorb their knowledge.
P.S. It reminds me the joke about the 2 men who were talking about one place they'd never been there.
But every time in every sentence they refered to their brothers who were there and talked about
that place to their brothers. And you are the same : the man who never lived in communist country but is able to talk about it as if he really lived there. But it's just an illusion not reality.
Re: M-L teaching in absolute contradiction to any belief
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February 28 2008, 1:14 AM
But I have never, never, never heard of any religious man that was the same time Marx-Leninist
Really? Here in Russia most Communists are adherents of the Russian Orthodox Church.
I lived in Communist Atheist country too, and I live in non-Communist Christian country now. I see no difference between propaganda of Atheism and Christianity. Both ideologies are terrible and are worth of being fighted with.
Re: M-L teaching in absolute contradiction to any belief
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February 28 2008, 8:28 AM
- Here in Russia most Communists are adherents of the Russian Orthodox Church.-
Hellerick, there are two different things. Either those atheists are not real atheist or those Orthodox Church "christians" are not real christians. And they are just "playing" for being atheist or christians.
Black color is totaly different from white. If we take just these two colors you cannot say that
black is the same time white and white is the same time black.
Either you deny God or believe im Him. It's absolutly stupid being atheist and the same time christian. Your mind is then schizofrenic and you should visit psychiatrist.
Re: M-L teaching in absolute contradiction to any belief
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February 28 2008, 4:53 PM
I'm schizofrenic? Why? If you think that Communism and Christianity don't mix together and are "in absolute contradiction", then you have to assume that Russian Communists are "schizofrenic", not me. Though personally I don't see any contradiction. As far as I know Cuban Communism exists in perfect harmony with Catholicism. Historically the Communist ideas evolved from Protestantism, and Communist Communes looked nearly the same as Christian ones. Atheism isn't obligatory part of Communist ideology.
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February 28 2008, 5:26 PM
Christian Communism is a form of religious communism centered around Christianity. It is a theological and political theory based upon the view that the teachings of Jesus Christ compel Christians to support communism as the ideal social system. Although there is no universal agreement on the exact date when Christian communism was founded, many Christian communists assert that evidence from the Bible suggests that the first Christians, including the Apostles, created their own small communist society in the years following Jesus' death and resurrection. As such, many advocates of Christian communism argue that it was taught by Jesus and practiced by the Apostles themselves; a point highly debated among other Christians.
Christian communism can be seen as a radical form of Christian socialism. Also, due to the fact that many Christian communists have formed independent stateless communes in the past, there is also a link between Christian communism and Christian anarchism. Christian communists may or may not agree with various parts of Marxism. They certainly do not agree with the atheist views of most Marxists, but they do agree with some of the economic aspects of Marxist theory, such as the idea that capitalism exploits the working class by extracting surplus value from the workers in the form of profits. Christian communists also share some of the political goals of Marxists, for example replacing capitalism with socialism, which should in turn be followed by communism at a later point in the future. However, Christian communists sometimes disagree with Marxists (and particularly with Leninists) on the way a socialist or communist society should be organized. In general, Christian communism evolved independently of Marxism, and most Christian communists share the conclusions but not the underlying premises of Marxist communists.
- there is still belief because as it is stated : " They certainly do not agree with the atheist views of most Marxists ..... "