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Ruskym extremistom vadi Medvedev.

February 28 2008 at 9:11 AM
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Na pravdepodobneho buduceho ruskeho prezidenta, v sucasnosti vicepremiera ruskej vlady Dmitrija Medvedeva, vo stvrtok slovne zautocili pravicovi extremisti. Vyzvali Rusov, aby ho v nadchadzajucich prezidentskych volbach nevolili, pretoze je Zid.

Medvedev sa nedavno stretol s predstavitelmi ruskej zidovskej obce a vyhlasil, ze ak sa stane prezidentom, bude sa snazit vykorenit vzrastajuci antisemitizmus v ruskej spolocnosti.

Nikolaj Bondarik, predseda extremistickej Ruskej strany, od ktorej sa distancuju dokonca aj ultranacionalisti Vladimira Zirinovskeho, tvrdi, ze Rusko nemoze mat takehoto prezidenta. "To nema nic spolocne s antisemitizmom. Proste si len myslim, ze rusky prezident by mal byt Rus," povedal.

Medvedev sa k informaciam o svojich udajnych zidovskych korenoch nikdy priamo nevyjadril. Medvedeva, ktoreho narodu odporucil za svojho nastupcu sucasny prezident Vladimir Putin, pasuju prieskumy verejnej mienky za jasneho vitaza nedelnajsich prezidentskych volieb.

 
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Ruski nacionalisti kontra ruski zidia.

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February 28 2008, 9:13 AM 

Tak to bude este riadne napate v Rusku, kedze americka vlada pozostava z vacsiny zo zidovskej loby.
Medvedev zrejme bude v buducnosti "liezt" americanom do riti, co bude samozrejme vadit ruskym nacionalistom.


 
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Neslovanske Rusko.

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February 28 2008, 9:30 AM 

Precitaj si zoznam zidov v ruskej politike na:

www.vzdelavaci-institut.com

a budes zhrozeny a rozcarovany, kolko zidov aj v sucasnej ruskej politike je. Rusko nie je az take slovanske ako sa zda...

 
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zidovski politici v ruskej vlade

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February 28 2008, 9:33 AM 


 
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CASTECNY SEZNAM ZIDU A ZIDOVSKYCH MISENCU V POLITICE CSFR, CR A SR PO ROCE 1989

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February 28 2008, 9:48 AM 

Tuesday, 03 April 2007
ČÁSTEČNÝ SEZNAM ŽIDŮ A ŽIDOVSKÝCH MÍŠENCŮ V POLITICE ČSFR, ČR A SR PO ROCE 1989


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Re: CASTECNY SEZNAM ZIDU A ZIDOVSKYCH MISENCU V POLITICE CSFR, CR A SR PO ROCE 1989

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February 28 2008, 5:22 PM 

This is called a Jewless antisemitism. But some people try to invent the Jews at least.

 
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Re: Ruskym extremistom vadi Medvedev.

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February 28 2008, 5:23 PM 

Proste si len myslim, ze rusky prezident by mal byt Rus

Rosija ne jest' kraj od Rusi, ale kraj od Rosijani.

 
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Re: Ruskym extremistom vadi Medvedev.

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March 1 2008, 4:47 PM 

Interesting. Do you have this distinction in Czech language?

 
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Re: Ruskym extremistom vadi Medvedev.

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March 1 2008, 5:12 PM 

We don't. I just don't like to think that only four fifths of a country's inhabitants can be its potential presidents.

 
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Re: Ruskym extremistom vadi Medvedev.

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March 1 2008, 6:11 PM 

Sure, Tatars live in Russia for five centuries and always were as good Russian subjects/citizens as ethnic Russians. Which makes me doubt whether Russia really is a Slavic or a Christian country.

So, you're thinking with categories which don't exist in your language? I'm impressed.

BTW, do you have in Czech a couple of separate words for Bohemian and "Bohemo-Moravian"?

 
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March 1 2008, 8:32 PM 

BTW, do you have in Czech a couple of separate words for Bohemian and "Bohemo-Moravian"?

At the beginning od the second millenium, there were two unrelated countries sharing nothing but a common ruler and one border: Čechy (Bohemia), adjective český (Bohemian), and Morava (Moravia), adjective moravský (Moravian). If you wanted to describe something common to them, you had to use českomoravský (Bohemomoravian) - as it happened for example in the case of Českomoravská vrchovina (Bohemomoravian Highlands). In the 19th century, however, Slavic inhabitants of Bohemia and Moravia didn't remain unaffected by nationalism - an anti-German sentiment in this case. That's why somebody made up that Bohemians and Moravians would be stronger if they united into only one nation. The new entity was called český národ. In Czech (plus other west Slavic languages and Hungarian) the adjective remained the same as "Bohemian", but all other languages introduced a new adjective "Czech" [= (Slavic) Bohemian + (Slavic) Moravian] to distinguish it from "Bohemian". Czech has never adopted anything like this. But as the concept of historical lands became more and more forgotten during the 20th century, český now means nearly exclusively "Czech". Technically it still has two meanings, but the meaning "Bohemian" is no more needed and český therefore means "Bohemian" only in the compounds středočeský, jihočeský, západočeský, severočeský, východočeský ("Central Bohemian", "South Bohemian", "West Bohemian", "North Bohemian", "East Bohemian", never "Central Czech", "South Czech" etc. - such administrative divisions don't exist and I can't imagine what they would look like), or when directly compared to something Moravian, and in a few other cases (for example český lev - the coat of arms of Bohemia).

 
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Re: Ruskym extremistom vadi Medvedev.

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March 3 2008, 3:35 PM 

The reason of why I asked is that I heard that word Česko is rather an artificial and recently invented and I wondered whether it was "equipped" by a special adjective/demonym as well, and if it was, how it looked like. Alas it seems that the "linguo-politicians" were too lazy to think up something like that.

It's difficult to find a good adjective for "Bohemo-Moravian"... But I got an idea: maybe Czechs should acquire a special word for "Bohemian" instead. You already mentioned that the word český is "wrong". So, what about the next scheme:

Čechy > češský
Česko > český

From morphological point of view it makes sense. E.g. češska čeština would mean the Bohemian dialect of Czech.

It doesn't solve the problem of demonym though.

 
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March 3 2008, 6:38 PM 

Yes, the word Česko is a recent invention - but still it is formed according to an old formula, not by a linguo-politic one: německý (German) --> Německo (Germany), polský (Polish) --> Polsko (Poland) are completely traditional.

Your solution čeąský/český is quite original, but it resembles to me the historical accidents when one proto-Slavic root split into two different words, such as město/místo (town/place) in Czech, with similar pairs in Ukrainian (місто/місце), Polish (miasto/miejsce) and Slovak (mesto/miesto). Anyway, languages can't be regulated "from above" very well, but if I could do it, I'd also seek a new word for "Bohemian" - but to form an analogy with other languages, i.e. bohemský.

 
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Re: Ruskym extremistom vadi Medvedev.

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March 4 2008, 1:48 AM 

In Russian we don't use the word bogemskij. Well we use it, but for most Russians it's name of some mysterious European country that produces glass-ware, and nobody knows where it's located (something like "Transylvania" for Americans -- A European country populated by vampires).

In Russian we say something like this:

Čechy — "historical Čehija".
Česko — "contemporary Čehija".

 
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March 4 2008, 5:34 PM 

If historical Bohemia is not associated with modern Czechia, I don't mind it, because the only thing they have in common are Bohemian Slavs (4,4 mil.). All other peoples in question might be offended - Bohemian Germans (2,2 mil.) belonged to Bohemia but not to Czechia, and Moravian-Silesian Slavs (2,3 mil.) belong to Czechia but not to Bohemia.

(Numbers are from 1921.)

 
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