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Vandals and Ostrogoths = Slavs

June 24 2008 at 4:37 AM
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Anonimnik 

 
Ostrogoths, Vandals.

Tribes of Veneti Slavs called Vandals, have "vandalized" Rome, destroyed the Roman empire and finally through France and Spain travelled to Africa where they have settled on the shores of the Mediterrannean in today's Tunisia and Libya. The graphic depicts a Veneti-Vandal symbol for 'the hands of god'.

The original home of the Vandals (and Ostrogoths) was the area between southern Poland and northern Serbia. The migration of Vandal Slavic warriors from central Europe into Africa has made all Slavs more susceptible to subsequent invasions both from the west and from the east and marks the beginning of the break-up of the Veneti empire.

About the Ostrogoth (Vandal) culture we find very little concrete informaiton only various guesses, mostly by Germanic scientists who assume, because of the Roman name "Ostrogoths" that they were in some ways related to "Goths and Visigoths". The problem lies in the Roman names, since to the Romans all the tribes who were not speaking Latin were "Goths" and then they subdivided them into various subgroups such as Ostrogoths (Slavs). Visigoths, etc.

In a similar way the Greeks called all tribes and peoples which were non-greek speaking "Barbarians", and the Slavs called non-Slavic speaking tribes (specifically Germanic tribes) as "Nemtsi" which means "the dumb ones".

To find the proof that Ostrogoths (including Vandals) were Slavs we just have to look at the typically Slavic names of their leaders. While the language of the Ostrogoths is still shrouded in mystery (maybe on purpose since Germanic researchers don't want to admit that they were Slavs), and since also their writing is also shrouded in a similar "mystery", one thing that is not shouded and which had remained to this day are the Slavic names of their leaders. Here are just a few names of the leaders and of their dynasties: Valamir, Theodemir, Theodoric, Athalaric, Eraric, Geiseric, Gunderic, Hilderic, Gelimir, etc. Furthermore the name Vandals is no doubt related to the Venden (Wenden) which are aboriginal Slavic population living to this day in central Germany. To Slavic researchers the Venden (Wenden) are known as Sorbs.

What is most interesting are the Roman sources which claim that Ostrogoths (Slavs) have come from Phrygia, whic only confirms the previously stated information that Phrygians (also called Brigs) were Slavs. So while Visigoths were most likely Germanic tribes, Ostrogoths were Slavs. The confusion comes only from the common name of "Goths" given to all by the Romans.

Source: http://www.slovio.com/venetnikis/index.html

 
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Anonimnik

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June 24 2008, 8:38 AM 

This anonimnik probably doesn't know history properly that Vandals and Ostrogoths = germanic tribes.


 
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June 24 2008, 12:03 PM 

Are these germanic names or slavic names: Valamir, Theodemir, Theodoric, Athalaric, Eraric, Geiseric, Gunderic, Hilderic, Gelimir...

Those are names of Ostrogoth / Vandal leaders. So instead of copying "facts" written by nazi "historians" look at the facts.

 
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June 24 2008, 1:43 PM 

these names sound Italic, Slavic and Germanic! The Vandals and the Goths were multi-ethnic, and this is also true for today's European countries.

Pure "races" only existed rsp. exist in the addle brain of Hitler, Rosenberg, the South-African racists and rabbit breaders.

 
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I.

Vandals didn't accept anybody.

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June 25 2008, 9:30 AM 

... The Vandals and the Goths were multi-ethnic ....

- I seriously doubt that some nomadic and drastic vandals would have accepted some other tribes esspecially the Slavs.
At least they fought against them and have them as the slaves but they didn't lived with them in one tribal community.

 
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Re: Vandals didn't accept anybody.

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June 25 2008, 2:56 PM 

As far as I know Vandals were mostly a Germanic tribe, and Goths obviously were a Germanic (or at least a Germanic-dominated) tribe.

And yet don't try to apply the contemporary idea of how people of different ethnic identities should treat each other to the ancient peoples -- Chauvinism was invented much later.

E.g. the ancient Rus was in constant wars with its southern neighbours -- nomadic tribes, and yet the Russian princes were recruiting hundreds mercenaries from the same nomadic tribes to protect Rus from their kinsmen. (These hired men were called Black Klobuks, and formed significant part in population of the southern regions of Rus, later they assimilated.) I'm sure there was the opposite flow of people: some Slavic men were trying their fortune in joining nomadic tribes and participating in their raids, including the raids on their own home towns.

There was a nomadic "tribe" of Avars, and the scientists are still arguing whether they had a dominating ethnic entity at all -- it looks like Avars were just a "pirate republic" that included people of all the nationalities they had contact with.

It was brutal age, and yet somewhat very "politically correct".

 
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I.

Democracy a la USA.

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June 29 2008, 10:07 AM 

- It was brutal age, and yet somewhat very "politically correct".-


Somewhat todays USA. Every adult can have a gun and can use it in any occasion.

If somebody doesn't like somebody else. He / she simply has got a right to shoot him / her.

Excellen "democracy" on the go !

 
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iopq

Re: Democracy a la USA.

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July 2 2008, 8:11 AM 

This is not true. They only have the right to defend themselves. This means shooting dark people.

 
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Anonimnik

Re: Democracy a la USA.

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July 2 2008, 10:04 PM 

Do you mean the sun - tanned, too ?

 
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iopq

Re: Democracy a la USA.

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July 3 2008, 7:35 AM 

Nobody in America sun-tans because they're afraid of skin cancer.

 
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Anonimnik

Re: Democracy a la USA.

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July 3 2008, 9:12 AM 

Why do americans have long beaches in California and Florida with a lot of people on them ?

 
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iopq

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July 3 2008, 7:15 PM 

Yes, people covered head to toe in sunblock.

 
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